EK bag weighing
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EK bag weighing
Watch out brothers and sisters! Big brother is watching you from an angle you will not see.
Outstation staff advised that they had received an e-mail from "quite-high-up" (Kevin bloody G?) that all crew bags are to be weighed and recorded. Any bag that exceeds the recently advised limit is to be identified, not to the crew concerned, but to Dubai. The crew concerned are not to be informed that their bag is over-weight, however the management in Dubai will be.
How low can they go? Are they so short of something to do than to pull this off?
Keep discovering!
halas
Outstation staff advised that they had received an e-mail from "quite-high-up" (Kevin bloody G?) that all crew bags are to be weighed and recorded. Any bag that exceeds the recently advised limit is to be identified, not to the crew concerned, but to Dubai. The crew concerned are not to be informed that their bag is over-weight, however the management in Dubai will be.
How low can they go? Are they so short of something to do than to pull this off?
Keep discovering!
halas
Well I guess he can't make money or get promoted from reducing our allowances anymore. Wonder what job he is after now? 
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From the EK website FAQs "Emirates has one of the world's most generous baggage policies. Economy Class customers can check in 30 kg, Business Class travellers 40 kg and if you are flying First Class you can travel with 50 kg of checked baggage. These weights do not apply to itineraries involving USA, Canada and Brazil. Please check our baggage allowance calculator for restrictions and to find out which applies to you.
If you have calculated your allowance to be over 32 kg (71 lb), please note that Dubai Civil Aviation prohibits the acceptance of any one piece of baggage weighing more than 32 kg (71 lb), into, out of or via Dubai International Airport."
The bag allowance represents the weight of almost 2 pax each flight, however having said that it has certainly made my extra fuel decision process a lot easier. Penny wise and pound foolish comes to mind.
If you have calculated your allowance to be over 32 kg (71 lb), please note that Dubai Civil Aviation prohibits the acceptance of any one piece of baggage weighing more than 32 kg (71 lb), into, out of or via Dubai International Airport."
The bag allowance represents the weight of almost 2 pax each flight, however having said that it has certainly made my extra fuel decision process a lot easier. Penny wise and pound foolish comes to mind.
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.....seen the email....a purser had a print out of it from one of her friends at an outstation......any baggage weights over 23kg and the extra amount carried is to be emailed to respective CCM or FM with the overweight figure and staff details....sent network wide and signed by BM.....manager reg affairs.....understand AS is the only one driving this and the rest of fleet think it is crazy but forced to comply.....
short flights long nights
Something is fundemently wrong about all of this........
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indeed, something terribly wrong in this company. I think the CC limitation has been 25kg since a long time so I think F.O. are the originators of this.
Well... they have shown again their true colors... Where can start
???
What's next, a warning letter TCAS?
If you are the originator, you are a real C.
Well... they have shown again their true colors... Where can start
???What's next, a warning letter TCAS?
If you are the originator, you are a real C.
Meanwhile the pax are bringing on average 15-20kg's in excess of their allowance in stupidly oversized and deadly heavy cabin luggage... you inform the ground crew who shrug and say, can't do anything about it. When you tell them you'll ask the passenger to bring it to the door to offload it, they refuse...
Last week a guy brought a bag the size of the one I flew to Dubai with into the cabin. It only fit in the hatrack when 2 pax jammed it closed (thereby braking the latch I might add) and the staff do jack all about it. So much for baggage restrictions.
EK should be worrying more about potential lawsuits from falling bags than us bringing an extra kg or two of shopping home....
Last week a guy brought a bag the size of the one I flew to Dubai with into the cabin. It only fit in the hatrack when 2 pax jammed it closed (thereby braking the latch I might add) and the staff do jack all about it. So much for baggage restrictions.
EK should be worrying more about potential lawsuits from falling bags than us bringing an extra kg or two of shopping home....
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Easy
The answer to this is very easy. If you experience difficulties at an outstation then instruct the Purser and cabin crew to rigidly apply the cabin baggage size limitations at the door upon boarding. This will mean that the ground-staff will have to tag and find hold stowage for hundreds of extra bags.
The passengers wont be best pleased but it is for their safety after all
The result will be a huge increase in workload for the ground staff, congestion on the air-bridge, possible delay and no-one can say a thing because it is in the rulebook. If any of the bright shining stars in management instruct you to desist from this practice ask them to put in writing. I doubt any of them are that brave or stupid.
The message might also filter through to the passengers that there is are limits to carry on baggage.
The passengers wont be best pleased but it is for their safety after all
The result will be a huge increase in workload for the ground staff, congestion on the air-bridge, possible delay and no-one can say a thing because it is in the rulebook. If any of the bright shining stars in management instruct you to desist from this practice ask them to put in writing. I doubt any of them are that brave or stupid.
The message might also filter through to the passengers that there is are limits to carry on baggage.
Yes true. We're not supposed to have anything other than the stickers that come with the suitcase.
Not even a baggage tag. I'm technically breaking the rules by having a plain coloured tag on the handle but there's only so many times I'm willing to have to catch the bus right back to HQ because some idiot has taken the wrong bag... I can only imagine it's worse on the A380 because there's 26-something of them!!!!
Has anyone figured a good (non-tacky-looking) way to label a bag, those stupid stickers came off after a week. Painting is apparently also not allowed!!!
I don't know why they continue selling those bag straps in the crew shop if we're not meant to use them! Can't even bring a lunch bag but with all the manuals, shoes, tabard etc required to be carried there is no room in the cabin bag for lunch! Gym is the only option to keep the uniform fitting well if I have to eat the crap onboard
Not even a baggage tag. I'm technically breaking the rules by having a plain coloured tag on the handle but there's only so many times I'm willing to have to catch the bus right back to HQ because some idiot has taken the wrong bag... I can only imagine it's worse on the A380 because there's 26-something of them!!!!
Has anyone figured a good (non-tacky-looking) way to label a bag, those stupid stickers came off after a week. Painting is apparently also not allowed!!!
I don't know why they continue selling those bag straps in the crew shop if we're not meant to use them! Can't even bring a lunch bag but with all the manuals, shoes, tabard etc required to be carried there is no room in the cabin bag for lunch! Gym is the only option to keep the uniform fitting well if I have to eat the crap onboard
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I'll have an extra strap on my bag (as sold in crew shop) and I'll put in it what I like for my time away...
Again - grow some gonads
Must be the same guys that sit down to brief the CC (how I hate that)....
Again - grow some gonads
Must be the same guys that sit down to brief the CC (how I hate that)....
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Actually, yes. I frequently help with the bags. Often while the stronger male members of the crew stand around and watch. I have no problem doing it, if I can't lift a bag I shouldn't be in my job.
I'm not complaining about the bag limit, I'm just asking why EK cannot allow one (neat & tidy) bag strap on a bag which frequently has faulty locks and pops open. Often the uniform stores either a) cannot fix the bag or b) say they need to keep the bag for x amount of days and might not have a replacement for you. Issue us a crew baggage strap only for crew and get one that won't interfere with the baggage system. Beats me how milllions of pax bags travel with these (and other) additions every day without causing a problem. (Ever seen those strings, luggage trollies tied to boxes, bundles of 'stuff' tied up as a 'bag', Bali Samsonites.... what about those?)
I don't overstuff my bag, I'm aware of the reasons for a limit. To be honest, a limit was never discussed with us during training. We were never actually told there WAS a weight limit when checking in a bag. I only know what it is by reading the cc manual and asking the ground staff.
Now when you add in all the stuff we are expected to carry (maybe it's a bit easier for boys, I don't know) including makeup bags (which can weigh quite a bit- and no I do not *choose* to carry this, I'm required to wear the war paint on every flight) Add in a coat, jumpers, scarf, jeans, boots, required for a YYZ or UK flight in winter, gym shoes & gear etc etc... my bag is already up around the 20kg mark without having even bought anything on the layover.
I don't advocate packing a bag with rocks, if said crew want to do that they should be willing to lift their own bags... however, many times when I've gone to help the driver with my own bag they flat out refuse to let me.... whether because I'm a girl or they think it's totally their job, or they're not allowed to let me, I don't know.
I just think that if EK are going to enforce these kinds of rules on us then they should also be enforcing the rules which apply to pax. While they're busy reporting us to management the pax are bringing on silly amounts of cabin luggage which WILL seriously injure and/or kill someone one of these days
I'm not complaining about the bag limit, I'm just asking why EK cannot allow one (neat & tidy) bag strap on a bag which frequently has faulty locks and pops open. Often the uniform stores either a) cannot fix the bag or b) say they need to keep the bag for x amount of days and might not have a replacement for you. Issue us a crew baggage strap only for crew and get one that won't interfere with the baggage system. Beats me how milllions of pax bags travel with these (and other) additions every day without causing a problem. (Ever seen those strings, luggage trollies tied to boxes, bundles of 'stuff' tied up as a 'bag', Bali Samsonites.... what about those?)
I don't overstuff my bag, I'm aware of the reasons for a limit. To be honest, a limit was never discussed with us during training. We were never actually told there WAS a weight limit when checking in a bag. I only know what it is by reading the cc manual and asking the ground staff.
Now when you add in all the stuff we are expected to carry (maybe it's a bit easier for boys, I don't know) including makeup bags (which can weigh quite a bit- and no I do not *choose* to carry this, I'm required to wear the war paint on every flight) Add in a coat, jumpers, scarf, jeans, boots, required for a YYZ or UK flight in winter, gym shoes & gear etc etc... my bag is already up around the 20kg mark without having even bought anything on the layover.
I don't advocate packing a bag with rocks, if said crew want to do that they should be willing to lift their own bags... however, many times when I've gone to help the driver with my own bag they flat out refuse to let me.... whether because I'm a girl or they think it's totally their job, or they're not allowed to let me, I don't know.
I just think that if EK are going to enforce these kinds of rules on us then they should also be enforcing the rules which apply to pax. While they're busy reporting us to management the pax are bringing on silly amounts of cabin luggage which WILL seriously injure and/or kill someone one of these days
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Worthless pr!cks. Give me the chance to weigh my bag at least, before beating me up with it.
I'll be using a strap, purely for baggage ID and security purposes, as I have always done, until the day I get an FCI/FCN telling me not to.
I'll also be enforcing the offload of excessively large/heavy pax carry-ons, on the basis of safety, if I see any (and have recently done so).
I'll be using a strap, purely for baggage ID and security purposes, as I have always done, until the day I get an FCI/FCN telling me not to.
I'll also be enforcing the offload of excessively large/heavy pax carry-ons, on the basis of safety, if I see any (and have recently done so).
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Has anyone figured a good (non-tacky-looking) way to label a bag,
I use a simple, non EK, non passenger strap with a non-reversible spring loaded catch. Pull through till it's tight and tidy up the excess and it won't catch on anything. I use it to make sure my case won't explode when it's full of shopping and over 23 kg
From the EK website:
The standard free baggage allowance for all other Emirates destinations (excluding the USA, Canada and Brazil) as per the weight concept is 50 kg for First Class, 40 kg for Business Class and 30 kg for Economy Class.
Pick your fight, this is easy to manage and there's plenty of other things to worry about
Fly safe and a Happy New Year to all.
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Oh FFS
The Baggage system is a useless multi thousand/million aed white elephant.
Whilst a complete reversion to the old CBC system is not possible the self service baggage did self regulate the wt of the bags. I agree with H+D there are some who frankly take the P***. A quicker cheaper method is available as I have used on the occasions that the 380 bus has picked us lowly 777 peeps. Bag in bus, through e gate, onto xray and out in less than 5 mins! Simples init!
With regards to the bag straps ...........doesn't EK market an EK bag strap for pax to advertise our brand? So are we marketing a dodgy sub standard strap that stuffs up or if not why not issue to those who want it the wonderful EK strap?
The Baggage system is a useless multi thousand/million aed white elephant.
Whilst a complete reversion to the old CBC system is not possible the self service baggage did self regulate the wt of the bags. I agree with H+D there are some who frankly take the P***. A quicker cheaper method is available as I have used on the occasions that the 380 bus has picked us lowly 777 peeps. Bag in bus, through e gate, onto xray and out in less than 5 mins! Simples init!
With regards to the bag straps ...........doesn't EK market an EK bag strap for pax to advertise our brand? So are we marketing a dodgy sub standard strap that stuffs up or if not why not issue to those who want it the wonderful EK strap?
