New Policy For EK Clinic Docs re: FATIGUE
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Well Said Don.
Ps. A lot in this thread is pure slander, and unnecessary.
A bit unfair to bitch about Dr. FR, while safely hiding behind your Pprune nic name.
Why not send the lady an email? it might get you some better answers or a justification to the policy, if that indeed is what you are looking for.
DC
Ps. A lot in this thread is pure slander, and unnecessary.
A bit unfair to bitch about Dr. FR, while safely hiding behind your Pprune nic name.
Why not send the lady an email? it might get you some better answers or a justification to the policy, if that indeed is what you are looking for.
DC
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Thanks for the comments. Loved the greed thing. Very rich coming from some of you. You talk about guts.....how many times have you stood up to Steely or AAR? 
I have spoken to FR on numerous occasions about this and other things. If points like this are not raised with the Medical Board (in New Zealand, apparently) how will we ever know. Good luck with the greed and fatigue. They seem to go together for some of you 
I have spoken to FR on numerous occasions about this and other things. If points like this are not raised with the Medical Board (in New Zealand, apparently) how will we ever know. Good luck with the greed and fatigue. They seem to go together for some of you
777 Boy,
It would seem your beef is that FR has allegedly taken some decree from AAR (her boss of sorts) and implemented it. And this is considered bad.
At the same time the clinic Docs and Nurses have allegedly taken this same decree from FR (their boss of sorts) and are implementing it. And you consider this not as bad? Is that because they talk behind her back? Does that absolve them from blame?
Mate, the problem is not the clinic. Its several pay grades further up the line. Read my above post re rostering.
Take my above post, delete Australian medical board insert New Zealand, or whatever other country you wish to use.
The Don
It would seem your beef is that FR has allegedly taken some decree from AAR (her boss of sorts) and implemented it. And this is considered bad.
At the same time the clinic Docs and Nurses have allegedly taken this same decree from FR (their boss of sorts) and are implementing it. And you consider this not as bad? Is that because they talk behind her back? Does that absolve them from blame?
Mate, the problem is not the clinic. Its several pay grades further up the line. Read my above post re rostering.
Take my above post, delete Australian medical board insert New Zealand, or whatever other country you wish to use.
The Don
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Don,
My point is this. I have been seen by FR in the clinic. She was great and I appreciated her care. The directive re 2 days came from AAR. Not from FR.
She is implementing this directive. But, surely, she should advise AAR and the clinic staff on the positives and negatives. The many doctors that I know in Aus practice clinical and evidence based medicine. What evidence is there that 2 days are enough? Has FR explained fatigue and its issues to AAR?
What are AAR's qualifications (Medical) for this directive. Fatigue is the biggest problem for all of us and I want to fly safely. I want a team of good people from EK on my side.
The first duty of a doctor is to care for their patients. I have great difficulty in seeing this exhibited here. I hope for the best and that FR will take heed of the points raised.
Finally, the Costa issue....it ain't the money but another cheap way of EK screwing us. All the pennies add up here......for their profits!
Finally, finally, the comments about greed and Doctors and Lawyers. The docs get the same as an FO. The lawyers less. And the Captains.....well we all know what we earn
Maybe the points raised about FR were harsh. But there are important issues at stake for all of us. If we don't stand up, they will screw us more than they do now.
Happy Flying to all!
My point is this. I have been seen by FR in the clinic. She was great and I appreciated her care. The directive re 2 days came from AAR. Not from FR.
She is implementing this directive. But, surely, she should advise AAR and the clinic staff on the positives and negatives. The many doctors that I know in Aus practice clinical and evidence based medicine. What evidence is there that 2 days are enough? Has FR explained fatigue and its issues to AAR?
What are AAR's qualifications (Medical) for this directive. Fatigue is the biggest problem for all of us and I want to fly safely. I want a team of good people from EK on my side.
The first duty of a doctor is to care for their patients. I have great difficulty in seeing this exhibited here. I hope for the best and that FR will take heed of the points raised.
Finally, the Costa issue....it ain't the money but another cheap way of EK screwing us. All the pennies add up here......for their profits!
Finally, finally, the comments about greed and Doctors and Lawyers. The docs get the same as an FO. The lawyers less. And the Captains.....well we all know what we earn
Maybe the points raised about FR were harsh. But there are important issues at stake for all of us. If we don't stand up, they will screw us more than they do now.
Happy Flying to all!
