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Old 6th Oct 2010, 12:58
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Emirates, Etihad or Qatar

Guys,Girls,


Anyone like to comment sensibly on which you would consider better for a Type rated 340/330 pilot with 5000+ hours and a family. Obviously interested in T&C's and time to command.

Many Thanks for your time,

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I'll give you one guess... It ain't either of the EK wannabe airlines And that I feel is quite a sensible comment when you consider the various threads running here.
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Thanks White Night,

Yes I know its sometimes difficult to get an objective view. Hence the new thread so it doesn't get caught up with the rest. For now anyway.

Any idea on Command time at the present with orders for A/C.

Thanks again,

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Old 6th Oct 2010, 13:59
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EK. None of the choices offer ideal situations - just don't expect it. Keep your expectations low and you won't be as discouraged. Abu Dhabi probably a better place to live than Dubai, but EK has all of the growth - 90+ A380s and 100 A350s with options. With your A340 background, you would be flying the A380 at EK in a few years. QR and EY are growing but people are getting assigned to the A320 fleets and they are not happy.

Again, don't expect the freedoms you enjoy in the UK. EK will do what they will do. Based on what I have read, EK seems like the best of the three choices (but certainly not close to ideal situation).
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Ek. Despite their problems they are MILES ahead of the other 2.
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Emirates - yes,

Many people that i know are not really happy with Qatar airways.
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Old 6th Oct 2010, 19:01
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stupid question, Its just like asking what better Somalia, Slovenia or Sweden
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I can't think of which of these three turds could be compared to Sweden, seeing as any one of them is the antithesis of order, justice, liberalism, and social safety net that are exemplified by the Swedes.

I think a better parallel would be asking which form of cancer you would prefer to have: lung, brain, or bowel?

They'll all kill ya, just at different rates.
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Thanks Fubaliera for adding zero value to the discussion. He is seeking opinions and perspectives, not lame, time-wasting remarks like yours.
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stupid question, Its just like asking what better Somalia, Slovenia or Sweden
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nice one!!! an intelligent reply...
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!!!!!

it's a million dollar question?
QR is the best
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Many Thanks to all of you (but one) for your replies.

As we are all aware the airlines around the world are trying to erode our T&C's as experienced highly skilled and mostly highly motivated individuals. We find ourselves in differing personal circumstances with our wives/husbands and families. What suits one doesn't suit everybody. I currently am employed in the UK and some would think it mad to even consider a move to the ME.

However, sometimes its more about the family than the job so answer me this if you would.

What do your families think of life in Dubai ?

Many thanks for your considered and intellectual replies (here is hoping)

Rgds

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Old 7th Oct 2010, 03:58
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Dubai offers the best lifestyle of the three without a doubt. Many EY pilots are living in Dubai and commuting to AD. EK has problems like the rest but is still in a different class and is the best option.
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Taking everything in consideration:..salary,treatment,mentality,place to live....

1-Ek
2-EY

3-QR.
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One thing to consider for your family's sake when considering EK is that you'll be working so often and so hard that they won't see you very much and when you are around you'll either sleeping or knackered before the next onslaught. More than one disgruntled family here in Dubai.
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Hi Kiwi et AL

Thanks for your replies, maybe if you have time you could elaborate in a PM to me. Does the lifestyle differ between fleets ? Also do you mix fleet fly 340/330. what's the time to command if you have the hours ?

An idea of your days off per month and pattern would be most help full, i.e. are you doing trip 2 days off etc.

I am not looking for an easy ride and am not afraid of hard work for the right rewards.

Many thanks to you all for keeping the comments constructive and grownup. I am trying to make a huge decision here and I appreciate your honesty also. I work for a good airline but with no command potential within the next 10 years I am trying to asses the options out there.

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Originally Posted by kiwi
One thing to consider for your family's sake when considering EK is that you'll be working so often and so hard that they won't see you very much and when you are around you'll either sleeping or knackered before the next onslaught. More than one disgruntled family here in Dubai.
You don't seriously think it's any better at EY or Goat Airways do you???
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BYOBEER stated: However, sometimes its more about the family than the job so answer me this if you would.
What do your families think of life in Dubai ?

And yes I think we're working a lot more than the other two which impacts on the quality of family life at EK. Worth considering if you're moving for family lifestyle considerations, in my opinion.
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Many thanks to you all for keeping the comments constructive and grownup. I am trying to make a huge decision here and I appreciate your honesty also. I work for a good airline but with no command potential within the next 10 years I am trying to asses the options out there.
Your command won't be coming much quicker than that here, either. Maybe eight years instead of ten. But there's a long queue already waiting.
 
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As a professional pilot from UK, Join Emirates! They love you guys.Enjoy the mafia
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