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Just curious, at a time when EK are finding it tougher and tougher to attract and enlist crew to apply and join up, why create restrictions like BMI limitations to influence who they will and won't process???
What? Your BMI is of greater significance or concern than whether or not you smoke a deck of cigarettes a day??
I don't think I'll modify my lovely pear shape anytime soon. It's taken me years and years of airline food, fast food, dining out and all the other nasty habits an airline career provides to get to my present state. I thought they were looking for experienced crew? WTF are they thinking?
(tongue-in-cheek)
Willie
What? Your BMI is of greater significance or concern than whether or not you smoke a deck of cigarettes a day??
I don't think I'll modify my lovely pear shape anytime soon. It's taken me years and years of airline food, fast food, dining out and all the other nasty habits an airline career provides to get to my present state. I thought they were looking for experienced crew? WTF are they thinking?
(tongue-in-cheek)
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Yup its a vicious circle.
Fly you 100 per month with rest patterns all in the 18-30hrs bracket, which in turn, as previously stated, leaves you totally fooked. You therefore have a major attack of the velcro sheets virus. This in turn makes one's previously Rugbyesk chest slip southwards!
Go for annual medical knowing you are going to be given a hard time so you get stressed, you BP goes up
,and those nice people at the German Heart Clinic get another 2000+ aed to wire you up for 24 hr BP monitoring which shows that actually all is ok with your BP etc and you can be licenced to kill for another year..............when lo it all starts again!
So you vow to walk 20+mins a day .......... which you do until some guy called Al
tries to run you over whilst he texts his girlfriend driving his 4x4.
Decide that discretion is the better part of valour and go back to driving everywhere.
Wide body pilots for wide body jets is wot I says Govner
and make sure you get some proper rest.
Fly you 100 per month with rest patterns all in the 18-30hrs bracket, which in turn, as previously stated, leaves you totally fooked. You therefore have a major attack of the velcro sheets virus. This in turn makes one's previously Rugbyesk chest slip southwards!
Go for annual medical knowing you are going to be given a hard time so you get stressed, you BP goes up
,and those nice people at the German Heart Clinic get another 2000+ aed to wire you up for 24 hr BP monitoring which shows that actually all is ok with your BP etc and you can be licenced to kill for another year..............when lo it all starts again! So you vow to walk 20+mins a day .......... which you do until some guy called Al
tries to run you over whilst he texts his girlfriend driving his 4x4.Decide that discretion is the better part of valour and go back to driving everywhere.
Wide body pilots for wide body jets is wot I says Govner
and make sure you get some proper rest.
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Straight from the horses (sorry doc) mouth. There is no compromise, get below BMI 30 or else no entrance. Once you're in here, it's on a case by case. Just back from the clinic, doc says they are doing shed loads of interview medicals and farming loads out as well. Don't reckon the BMI issue is a big one in terms of getting people to interview. Plenty in the range.
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Please be advised that our medical team has set standards for Body Mass Index. Our acceptable range is above 16
Is that physically possible?
Must be ex-loco pay-to-fly pilots who can't afford a decent lunch
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What about if you are between 29-30? Will they give you hard time cause you are close to 30 bmi or they just don't care? My date is coming up so I am liviving on noodles the last couple days to drop below 29.....Btw do they weigh you with clothes and shoes and subtract certain kilos depends on the clothes you wear?
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What about if you are between 29-30? Will they give you hard time cause you are close to 30 bmi or they just don't care? My date is coming up so I am liviving on noodles the last couple days to drop below 29.....Btw do they weigh you with clothes and shoes and subtract certain kilos depends on the clothes you wear?
You could always claim to be wearing lead-lined underpants though, and just hope they don't ask you to whip everything off like some of the doctors like you to...
Anyone who's experienced Dr Akel's ass-peep show on the original interviews will vouch for this
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Well said, I have been in insurance in the UK for the past 27 years, recently moved to Qatar specializing in Life insurance.
We had many an argument with the insurance companies when they would rate clients solely on their BMI. In the past few years we have seen a trend away from just BMI and with some persuasion; we can now get the underwriters to take into account chest, waist and even thigh measurements .
Would any one like to tell Lawrence Dallaglio that according to his BMI he is Obese??
We had many an argument with the insurance companies when they would rate clients solely on their BMI. In the past few years we have seen a trend away from just BMI and with some persuasion; we can now get the underwriters to take into account chest, waist and even thigh measurements .
Would any one like to tell Lawrence Dallaglio that according to his BMI he is Obese??
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I'm not sure Dallaglio would be classed as Obese, he's one of the fitter forwards and has plenty of height.
You'd struggle to find a prop who could sneak in at under 30 though!
You'd struggle to find a prop who could sneak in at under 30 though!
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Lawrence Dallaglio
Life and times
Name: Lorenzo Bruno Nero Dallaglio OBE.
Born: 10 August 1972, Shepherd's Bush, London.
Vital statistics: 6ft 3in, 17st 9lb.
Position: Flanker/No 8.
Nicknames: Del Boy.
BMI = 30.8 = OBESE - go figure.....
Life and times
Name: Lorenzo Bruno Nero Dallaglio OBE.
Born: 10 August 1972, Shepherd's Bush, London.
Vital statistics: 6ft 3in, 17st 9lb.
Position: Flanker/No 8.
Nicknames: Del Boy.
BMI = 30.8 = OBESE - go figure.....
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I was invited to Emirates Flight Crew Selection SIM Assessment in Atlanta in about two weeks -- my BMI is just under 30 (so my application passed) but my waist is slightly above 40. Does anyone know if they are checking BMI or waist size at these SIM assessments? I'm hoping they'll keep their focus only on the sim.. that way I'll have some time to fire up the p90x and get below the 40 inch cutoff
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
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I was there a few weeks ago and passed all selection. I also lost 9kg to qualify.
One of the other guys who passed with me from our selection course was over the limit of 30. Emirates have put him on hold until he loses the necessary weight. Once he has, a start date is his........
Get jogging guys
One of the other guys who passed with me from our selection course was over the limit of 30. Emirates have put him on hold until he loses the necessary weight. Once he has, a start date is his........
Get jogging guys
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I think someone else mentioned that the Company provides Life Insurance and that is why there is additional requirement. One would think that a class one medical provided by CAA approved medics would satisfy the beancounters in admin. However, I believe most companies require additional standards. BA, for example, state quite clearly that the Company medical is to a higher standard than that required by the UK CAA !
Notwithstanding (no pun intended), Companies do use additional medical standards to filter out the unwanted. I have stories of GF & CX doing this for years. HR going to the medics and asking if there is a way to reject certain people. If the reject comes from the medics, they cover themselves by saying that the information is confidential. Your application ceases from that point on.
The quacks are, too, famous for wearing blinkers. They love criteria not proved and you just have to fit the profile. All self perpetuating and self interested with levels of arrogance, absolutely astonishing.
I think as professional pilots, we have done this to ourselves by not, jointly, protesting against arbitrary(no spell check, sorry) medical standards set by Companies rather than approved Licencing Authorities.
As a plump school kid, I passed the RAF medical but resisted a 16 year Commission. I applied to the RN (5 year commission) but failed the medical. Doc said, to quote Shakespear, "There is too much of thee". Perhaps I would not have fitted into a RN Bucaneer.
Different horses for course but this BMI stuff is just plan daft. Oh, and those who judge us, would, in many cases, fail their own criteria.easily !
Notwithstanding (no pun intended), Companies do use additional medical standards to filter out the unwanted. I have stories of GF & CX doing this for years. HR going to the medics and asking if there is a way to reject certain people. If the reject comes from the medics, they cover themselves by saying that the information is confidential. Your application ceases from that point on.
The quacks are, too, famous for wearing blinkers. They love criteria not proved and you just have to fit the profile. All self perpetuating and self interested with levels of arrogance, absolutely astonishing.
I think as professional pilots, we have done this to ourselves by not, jointly, protesting against arbitrary(no spell check, sorry) medical standards set by Companies rather than approved Licencing Authorities.
As a plump school kid, I passed the RAF medical but resisted a 16 year Commission. I applied to the RN (5 year commission) but failed the medical. Doc said, to quote Shakespear, "There is too much of thee". Perhaps I would not have fitted into a RN Bucaneer.
Different horses for course but this BMI stuff is just plan daft. Oh, and those who judge us, would, in many cases, fail their own criteria.easily !
