Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

Emirates record a380 jet order 'not enough'

Wikiposts
Search
Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

Emirates record a380 jet order 'not enough'

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10th Sep 2010, 18:54
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Right we're you least expect
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Emirates record a380 jet order 'not enough'

Emirates's Record A380 Jet Order Is `Not Enough,' Clark Says

An Emirates Airline Airbus A380 jet taxis upon arriving at JFK International Airport in New York. Photographer: Jeremy Bales/Bloomberg



Emirates, the world’s biggest airline by international traffic, said the 90 Airbus SAS A380 superjumbos it’s buying won’t be sufficient to meet the carrier’s projected demand.
The aircraft “are well spoken for and frankly, the way things are going for us at the moment, the 90 certainly won’t be enough,” President Tim Clark said today in a phone interview. “Demand for our services seems to be continuing to grow apace. We’re moving forward very robustly.”
The carrier, already the biggest customer for Airbus’s 517- seat plane, has expanded its traffic sixfold in the last decade by connecting international passengers through its Dubai hub. Emirates is also the biggest operator of Boeing Co.’s 777 long- range airliner.
Emirates has 12 Airbus A380s in its fleet, with another three to go into service by November. Deliveries will restart in September 2011, with the carrier receiving the remaining planes through November 2017.
The pace of development at Dubai airport, which last year handled 41 million passengers to rank as the 17th-busiest hub in world, was one of the main obstacles to growth, Clark said. The executive estimated that the airport, growing at about 15 percent a year, will handle as many as 100 million passengers by the end of the decade.
“There is no point trying to bring airplanes at a time when you have no place to put your passengers,” Clark said.
Second Airport
Dubai is developing a second airport, Dubai World Central- Al Maktoum International, which opened to cargo carriers in June and will start serving scheduled passenger flights in March. The government aims to make Al Maktoum the world’s busiest airport, with eventual capacity for 160 million travelers, and Emirates will shift its base there.
Al Maktoum will need 10 to 15 years before enough carriers have moved there to make it Dubai’s main airport, Clark said.
Emirates’ ability to maintain expansion may also depend in part on competitors in the Persian Gulf region that are pursuing a similar strategy, said Andrew Lobbenberg, a London-based aviation analyst at Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc.
Qatar Airways Ltd., half-owned by the state, has orders and options for more than 170 Boeing and Airbus planes to build up its base in Doha, about 235 miles (380 kilometers) west of Dubai. Etihad Airways, government-owned by Dubai’s neighboring emirate of Abu Dhabi, also has expansion plans.
“A lot depends on what happens with the other Gulf carriers,” Lobbenberg said in a telephone interview. “If Dubai survives as the sole hub in the Gulf, then you could justify a more aggressive outlook.”
The expansion of the three airlines has helped boost traffic in the Middle East by 19 percent in the year to August, making it the fastest-growing region in the world this year, according to data compiled by the International Air Transport Association.
To contact the reporter on this story: Steven Rothwell in London at [email protected].
mic310 is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2010, 06:36
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: United Arab Emirates
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't understand...

Sometimes I don't really get it, what if they order more in the future? Are they going to end up sending them for short haul routes like Jeddah for example? And the main question is, who will maintain that with the lack of Engineering manpower? There are several known destinations which can be usually over booked which will benefit EK in case of the A380 involvement. But I don't think 90 is the number. I am curious to know there business vision towards that.
emiratesson is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2010, 07:21
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 22
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The business plan is World Domination Muahahaha!!!

More job opportunities....etc but if it backfires....
Red max is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2010, 08:13
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Earth
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
EK are busy taking market share, and flying around with very full aircraft. They have from a business perspective, found the right balance between the hub and spoke model, and being able to connect any two points on the globe that are currently worth going too in terms of revenue.
The future is all about access to new markets...just listen to the frightened noises made by the Canadians regarding EK's entry there, or the pointed words from the KLM/Air France chairman.
There is ample potential to fill all those 380's and 777's, the problem will be getting into the markets so it can happen.
If it all goes pear-shaped..orders will get binned.
falconeasydriver is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2010, 09:06
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Preswick
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good Lord, with the number of pilots they gonna hire we are all doomed once they go marms up when the bubble burst and burst it will. We will be swarmed with heaps of " cheap pilots " willing to work for peanuts!

Last edited by Kalistan; 12th Sep 2010 at 00:23.
Kalistan is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2010, 15:22
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Country
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by emiratesson
Are they going to end up sending them for short haul routes like Jeddah for example?
They already do.


And the main question is, who will maintain that with the lack of Engineering manpower?

The 380 is so reliable it doesn't need any Engineers....
Jet II is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2010, 20:08
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: DUBAI, U.A.E.
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Quote:
The 380 is so reliable it doesn't need any Engineers....

JETII,
you either do not fly on the Big Bird or are just plain ignorant to go through the Log book...
A345 is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2010, 23:54
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: United Arab Emirates
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Heheh jet II

I was a part of the maintenance team, and I know how the shortage in manpower is affecting. Right now the situation is that the engineers and available mechanics are doing their best to keep them running, with the current aircraft numbers, but comparing the number of incoming aircraft to the ones which are going to be phased out is big. My latest update is that engineers are holding type ratings in nearly all aircraft types which operate within the fleet "which honestly created several confusions to engineers sometimes" but there is a real lack of man power currently while the fleet is increasing. I really hope that they expand the recruitment plan in a better way for new comers to be more experienced, I remember one day i was allocated to work in the cargo compartment, When a "new fresh mechanic" who just joined with direct entry whom said to be "well experienced" approaches me and askes me with an un understandable English "where is the cargo section?!" I was honestly very shocked! The point is some of the new comers weren't even experienced with aircraft maintenance, some of them were maintaining helicopters and small props when all of a sudden found themselves on those huge jets! And some were, Towing trucks operators. Was that done just to increase the number of mechs in a fast way?....I hope not.
emiratesson is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2010, 10:53
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: in the kitchen
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A345

and your sense of humor sucks...

mad
maddog62 is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2010, 15:07
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maddog

I was an Aircraft Engineer for 14 years (A&C) - now driving heavy metal. Please relax - I am sure it was just a joke.
NoJoke is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2010, 18:28
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Country
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by A345

JETII,
you either do not fly on the Big Bird or are just plain ignorant to go through the Log book...
oh dear
Jet II is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2010, 22:02
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: DUBAI, U.A.E.
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Point taken guys,,
A345 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.