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No, it does not reduce incrementally during the year for the CCQ. So if you leave after 11 months (after line check) in the company, you have to pay the full amount back. Leave after 12 months and you owe nothing.
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I think some of you may be missing the point.
If you leave and try to do the decent thing the Company will screw you and make your last three months extremely uncomfortable ( See Capt Krunch above).
If you do a runner you avoid all of the pain referred to above and have no painful admin to do. Even if you are bonded there would appear to be little that QA could do so long as you do not wish to go to another GCC operator.
Behave like a civilised and concientious individual, agree to disagree and ask to leave in 3 months as per your contract and they will treat you like a criminal.
This is the dark ages!
Be aware before you come here.
This is not Qatar Law or National policy. This is one sad little individual who is way out of his depth and believes that cracking a whip and acting in this way means that his staff will be compliant. Sadly, for him, those days are over and the Company is reaching the point where it cannot be run like a corner shop with staff who put up with ridiculous rules just to hang on to a job.
Huge sums and private lives are thrown away because of the pathetic attitude of this emotionally and psychologically challenged individual. Qatar Airways is poised to be a major carrier in the airline world and is undoubtedly the biggest player in terms of the international image of Qatar as a country. The present leader is totally inadequate as the head of such an important part of Qatar's International reputation and presence.
There are those who say that he is protected by friends in high places. This is hard to believe. The rulers and government of Qatar appear to conduct themselves with some dignity in international relations. It is hard to believe that they can feel that the actions and management style of the present incumbent can do anything to enhance the international reputation of the state of Qatar. It must be time to appoint an educated, cultured and dignified person to head Qatar Airways who can fulfill the role of CEO properly and represent the Country with honour!
I think some of you may be missing the point.
If you leave and try to do the decent thing the Company will screw you and make your last three months extremely uncomfortable ( See Capt Krunch above).
If you do a runner you avoid all of the pain referred to above and have no painful admin to do. Even if you are bonded there would appear to be little that QA could do so long as you do not wish to go to another GCC operator.
Behave like a civilised and concientious individual, agree to disagree and ask to leave in 3 months as per your contract and they will treat you like a criminal.
This is the dark ages!
Be aware before you come here.
This is not Qatar Law or National policy. This is one sad little individual who is way out of his depth and believes that cracking a whip and acting in this way means that his staff will be compliant. Sadly, for him, those days are over and the Company is reaching the point where it cannot be run like a corner shop with staff who put up with ridiculous rules just to hang on to a job.
Huge sums and private lives are thrown away because of the pathetic attitude of this emotionally and psychologically challenged individual. Qatar Airways is poised to be a major carrier in the airline world and is undoubtedly the biggest player in terms of the international image of Qatar as a country. The present leader is totally inadequate as the head of such an important part of Qatar's International reputation and presence.
There are those who say that he is protected by friends in high places. This is hard to believe. The rulers and government of Qatar appear to conduct themselves with some dignity in international relations. It is hard to believe that they can feel that the actions and management style of the present incumbent can do anything to enhance the international reputation of the state of Qatar. It must be time to appoint an educated, cultured and dignified person to head Qatar Airways who can fulfill the role of CEO properly and represent the Country with honour!
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Dear deserthawk9,
sadly all true,the Qatar Gov. wanted a EK stile company and what they have got is a little Air India instead....thanks to the wise and competent managers ruling the company!!!
....and nothing has yet happend,I say again yet...
NOF
sadly all true,the Qatar Gov. wanted a EK stile company and what they have got is a little Air India instead....thanks to the wise and competent managers ruling the company!!!
....and nothing has yet happend,I say again yet...
NOF
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Hi just want to find out from the guys who have done it how they managed to transition from QR to EK. Understand there is a "soft agreement" between both companies not to poach from each other but it can be circumvented on a case by case basis. PM's are welcome. Thanks
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First of all, remember that the vast majority have no problems. It's just that urban myths and reality conspire to make everyone fear the worst. Yes, there are some horrorr stories, but if you play fair and are upfront, on balance you can expect things to go reasonably smoothly. The HR folks have been doing this for years and there is well practised process and procedure.
I would advise something like this:
Before resigning or breathing a word to anyone:
1. You might want to send your family packing off home (personal choice)
2. Pay off your credit cards if you can
3. Definitely take virtually everything you can afford out of your bank account. Keep what you need under the mattress and change the rest into hard currency. (QR can and do stop people's bank accounts, with no particular rhyme or reason)
Then resign, in a polite and professional written note, explaining you are leaving 'for familly reasons' (wife has had enough, kids need to go to other schools etc)
Deep breath.
4. Sell you car(s) and rent short term
5. Sell as much of your stuff as you can. It will go quickly.
6. Arrange removals (again there are several very good and efficient companies)
7. If not in company house, tell your landlord. It may help to smooth things if you can bring him another tenant to take over the property. HR may be able to help here by hooking you up with new arrivals
8. Few days before leaving arrange for electricity guy to visit and cut you off on day you quit the premises (if not company house). Surprisingly this is about the most efficient part of the whole thing. Disconnection and cash deposit refund can be done within same morning.
etc etc
Hope that gives some help
I would advise something like this:
Before resigning or breathing a word to anyone:
1. You might want to send your family packing off home (personal choice)
2. Pay off your credit cards if you can
3. Definitely take virtually everything you can afford out of your bank account. Keep what you need under the mattress and change the rest into hard currency. (QR can and do stop people's bank accounts, with no particular rhyme or reason)
Then resign, in a polite and professional written note, explaining you are leaving 'for familly reasons' (wife has had enough, kids need to go to other schools etc)
Deep breath.
4. Sell you car(s) and rent short term
5. Sell as much of your stuff as you can. It will go quickly.
6. Arrange removals (again there are several very good and efficient companies)
7. If not in company house, tell your landlord. It may help to smooth things if you can bring him another tenant to take over the property. HR may be able to help here by hooking you up with new arrivals
8. Few days before leaving arrange for electricity guy to visit and cut you off on day you quit the premises (if not company house). Surprisingly this is about the most efficient part of the whole thing. Disconnection and cash deposit refund can be done within same morning.
etc etc
Hope that gives some help
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don't just pay off the credit card but return them to the bank. if not they can and have held the funds in your account.
9. make sure you do NOT have any traffic violation with the MOI. if so, pay them off or you might not be able to have your Qatar work visa cancelled. Thus not be able to obtain a final exit permit.
the company has a list of things that need to be signed off.. i.e. the return of your ID and uniform etc... this entire list may take a couple of days to complete so make sure you leave the time. if not fully complete you will not receive your tiny end of service benefits.
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Krunch
2. Pay off your credit cards if you can
9. make sure you do NOT have any traffic violation with the MOI. if so, pay them off or you might not be able to have your Qatar work visa cancelled. Thus not be able to obtain a final exit permit.
the company has a list of things that need to be signed off.. i.e. the return of your ID and uniform etc... this entire list may take a couple of days to complete so make sure you leave the time. if not fully complete you will not receive your tiny end of service benefits.
poisoned by compromise
Krunch
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Your credit cards have to be returned to the bank 3 months in advance of your departure. If not the bank freezes your account for the amount of 150% of your credit card's limit for a period of 3 months. So initially you have to lower your credit cards limit, pay them off and then return them 3 months before your departure date.
Please also note that as soon as you submit your resignation QR notifies the bank and the bank immediately freezes your account. Even if you empty your account the end of service benefit, your last salary etc will be frozen until all your financial issues in Qatar are resolved.
Please also note that as soon as you submit your resignation QR notifies the bank and the bank immediately freezes your account. Even if you empty your account the end of service benefit, your last salary etc will be frozen until all your financial issues in Qatar are resolved.
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Very interested in the answer to the above question as well...Also how does it work as far as a ticket back to your home? Do you have to travel home or can u leave Doha to anywhere else direct? (AUH, DXB, Korea, etc)
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Sounds like you guys have it easy...in G.F. there was a "How to do it" list doing the rounds which required a task a day to be achieved and much drinking of beer for three months...it was written by an ex RAF Officer it was particularly good due many years of similar rubbish doing this sort of base clearing thing.
The whole process got a lot easier after several cabin and flight deck crew jumped ship whilst on overnight stopovers in London and services had to be cancelled.
I was rostered by G.F. to fly for 17straight days up until one hour before my 60ith birthday and termination...they knew it was illegal...but they said who is going to prosecute you if you are over 60?
I thought it made it all a bit difficult to clear base doing it their way so I did not do it..there is always a different way.
The whole process got a lot easier after several cabin and flight deck crew jumped ship whilst on overnight stopovers in London and services had to be cancelled.
I was rostered by G.F. to fly for 17straight days up until one hour before my 60ith birthday and termination...they knew it was illegal...but they said who is going to prosecute you if you are over 60?
I thought it made it all a bit difficult to clear base doing it their way so I did not do it..there is always a different way.