Saudi A320
has anyone been reimbursed?
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WOW the things musted to be getting better.
I was told by friend that the 3 who showed to interview in Paris all were told to go to nest step, some time later in JED. Only 3 showed up and were paids moneys for own ticket on the spot. word it out at sv bout tickets and money not ben paid i bet.
good luck guy/gals
chuckunu
also was told my a Mngment pilot that 2 pilots and one instructor quit this wee because of no answers and organizations from bosses. true? or not?k
I was told by friend that the 3 who showed to interview in Paris all were told to go to nest step, some time later in JED. Only 3 showed up and were paids moneys for own ticket on the spot. word it out at sv bout tickets and money not ben paid i bet.
good luck guy/gals
chuckunu
also was told my a Mngment pilot that 2 pilots and one instructor quit this wee because of no answers and organizations from bosses. true? or not?k
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no Reimbursement
Just throwing the 2 pennies in... Attended the Nov.09 screening. Initially told by Belal to contact SV Washington DC FOR FLIGHT ARRANGEMENT, too late for that program so payed own fare, with, Promises, and no reimbursement.
I really wanted to hope for the Saudia job as everyone I met while operating ACMI was great.
Still could be with some systemic organization,
Sushi
I really wanted to hope for the Saudia job as everyone I met while operating ACMI was great.
Still could be with some systemic organization,
Sushi
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The lasted stories.............
Saudi air did Not pay cooking gas companys,, now SV city peoples has to buy own gases bottles for homes. and airbus pilots only get 4 days off in row now,?
i think my friends are lying to me to keep me from joining them? or they don't want to let me know where he will be going nexts.?
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Saudi air did Not pay cooking gas companys,, now SV city peoples has to buy own gases bottles for homes. and airbus pilots only get 4 days off in row now,?
i think my friends are lying to me to keep me from joining them? or they don't want to let me know where he will be going nexts.?
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Chuck,
Not sure about the gas bottles. I just got two about a week ago and had no trouble. However, to be honest, it is becoming too much of a pain to go get them. It will be easier to just get my own near the compound (and cheaper then taking the taxi across town to get "free" bottles).
As for the lines, there was a change to the FOPM that says that all lines will be built to a MINIMUM of four days off consecutively, 9 days total (again, MINIMUM) off. For July, there were a few lines with four day blocks off and a few lines with 5 days off. How they will be in the future is anyone's guess. The 747 Classic F/O lines all had 6 days in a row off with an average of 12-15 days a month off. So, hopefully as the 'Bus gets staffed, the days off will increase. But again, I don't think anyone really knows what will happen...
As for your friend warning you off, if he's in the training cycle, that is understandable. It is the most frustrating experience in the world. Everyone hates it and wants to quit during training. But, take it with a grain of salt. Once you're out of training, it isn't so bad. They leave me alone, and I never work (standby every day, but I only fly about one day a week...). Sometimesthe chaos works in our favor...
Not sure about the gas bottles. I just got two about a week ago and had no trouble. However, to be honest, it is becoming too much of a pain to go get them. It will be easier to just get my own near the compound (and cheaper then taking the taxi across town to get "free" bottles).
As for the lines, there was a change to the FOPM that says that all lines will be built to a MINIMUM of four days off consecutively, 9 days total (again, MINIMUM) off. For July, there were a few lines with four day blocks off and a few lines with 5 days off. How they will be in the future is anyone's guess. The 747 Classic F/O lines all had 6 days in a row off with an average of 12-15 days a month off. So, hopefully as the 'Bus gets staffed, the days off will increase. But again, I don't think anyone really knows what will happen...
As for your friend warning you off, if he's in the training cycle, that is understandable. It is the most frustrating experience in the world. Everyone hates it and wants to quit during training. But, take it with a grain of salt. Once you're out of training, it isn't so bad. They leave me alone, and I never work (standby every day, but I only fly about one day a week...). Sometimesthe chaos works in our favor...
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The bottles cost 15 sar to refill. I haven't had SV pay for mine for over 2 years. Just not worth the hassle for the savings of $4USD every 2 months. That is just my opinion.
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They used to have the gas store within the compound so it was extremely convenient, some kids decided that it would be a great idea to try to set the place on fire...... luckily they failed. The gas store was then closed!
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chuckunu, you will not like it here, don't come.
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Is the story true that an A320 guy decided to sell all of the excess furniture that he had provided with?
Mutt
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chuckunu, you will not like it here, don't come.
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Is the story true that an A320 guy decided to sell all of the excess furniture that he had provided with?
Mutt
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Mutt,
I hadn't heard that one (about the guy selling the excess furniture). I know of two guys that sent the excess furniture back to housing to make room for their own stuff, but no idea about selling it off. Is he the same guy that just went home in the last couple of weeks?
Also, has anyone on here brought a dog into the Kingdom? I found the regulations, but it's going to be tight to get everything done in a 10 day window, without being able to get home to drive all over the east coast. Trying to figure out if there is an office here in Jedah where I can get the import license and get the Vet Certificate authenticated to avoid a trip to Washington... Thanks.
I hadn't heard that one (about the guy selling the excess furniture). I know of two guys that sent the excess furniture back to housing to make room for their own stuff, but no idea about selling it off. Is he the same guy that just went home in the last couple of weeks?
Also, has anyone on here brought a dog into the Kingdom? I found the regulations, but it's going to be tight to get everything done in a 10 day window, without being able to get home to drive all over the east coast. Trying to figure out if there is an office here in Jedah where I can get the import license and get the Vet Certificate authenticated to avoid a trip to Washington... Thanks.
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Talk to Jeddah Vet (Jeddah Veterinary Group) or a Classic FO called Rafi 2. . . . he brought in a dog about a year ago.
Good Luck.
Mutt
Good Luck.
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Hi Mutt;
the new guys should look on the bright side. The uniforms are free of charge and so are the flight medicals. See how far that goes at Singapore Airlines.
when i was in JED, i got tired of the gas bottle situation and purchased an electric stove. You'll get your money back when you depart.
the new guys should look on the bright side. The uniforms are free of charge and so are the flight medicals. See how far that goes at Singapore Airlines.
when i was in JED, i got tired of the gas bottle situation and purchased an electric stove. You'll get your money back when you depart.
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FEDEX
Mutt
can i bother you for the proper address in Khalidia to Fedex a shipment to a pilot in Saudia City. I think it's better if it's held at the Fedex off next to Jollibee until he picks it up.
Thanks again
jumbocpt
can i bother you for the proper address in Khalidia to Fedex a shipment to a pilot in Saudia City. I think it's better if it's held at the Fedex off next to Jollibee until he picks it up.
Thanks again
jumbocpt
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GACA exam
You asked about the GACA ATP exam. Since no one answered about that, I will take a shot. I took this exam about 18 months ago. The questions seemed to come from that Gleim exam test book, from about 2006. I had a lot of questions about NDB approaches and ETA/performance questions that needed a whiz wheel to solve. It was a computer based test, and unlike the computerized tests you might take in the USA, there was not a flight computer type program build into the software. If you don't bring a whiz wheel to the test, you will be doing a lot of guessing. Also, all those NDB approach questions didn't make a lot of sense to me considering there is not a single NDB approach in Saudi Arabia.
I got about a 76 on my test, which surprised me, since I got a 96 on my ATP written when I took it in the USA. I suspect that when the test was coded into the computer, it may be that who ever did the work marked some of the wrong answers as correct. This kind of mistake would not surprise me in Saudi Arabia. When my GACA license was approved, I filled out the paper of the data that would appear on my license, like my name. This paper went off to the guy who makes the license. It came back with my name totally spelled wrong, even tho the guy was just transcribing it off a piece of paper. No creative thought required. I sent it back, and it came back, again misspelled in a new way. I sent it back. It came back, and now I was offered a license with some other guys name on it. Back again, and finally I got one that was correct. If an official can't correctly copy my name off a form and put it in a license, it is not a big stretch to think that maybe when they were putting the test questions into the testing computer, they may have messed up on which answers were correct.
There is also another test, on the GACA FARs. For the most part the Saudis photocopied the FAA FARAIM and called them the Saudi regs. There are a few differences tho, like transition altitude, calling for an engine start clearance, ATC clearance procedures, etc. The test on the regs is open book, and the questions pretty much come in the same order that the info appears in the book of regs they give you. Most of the answers have been underlined in the book by previous people who took the test. If you can read English, there will be no problem and it will be easy. In spite of how easy this is, when I took the test, there was a Saudi Saudi Airlines DEC in the test room with me , and he asked to copy my test. We both had different versions of the test, so I was tempted to let him do it.
There is an American former FAA guy working at GACA, Tommy Schmidt. He is a nice guy, and you could call him if you have any questions about anything GACA related. +966-505979877.
I got about a 76 on my test, which surprised me, since I got a 96 on my ATP written when I took it in the USA. I suspect that when the test was coded into the computer, it may be that who ever did the work marked some of the wrong answers as correct. This kind of mistake would not surprise me in Saudi Arabia. When my GACA license was approved, I filled out the paper of the data that would appear on my license, like my name. This paper went off to the guy who makes the license. It came back with my name totally spelled wrong, even tho the guy was just transcribing it off a piece of paper. No creative thought required. I sent it back, and it came back, again misspelled in a new way. I sent it back. It came back, and now I was offered a license with some other guys name on it. Back again, and finally I got one that was correct. If an official can't correctly copy my name off a form and put it in a license, it is not a big stretch to think that maybe when they were putting the test questions into the testing computer, they may have messed up on which answers were correct.
There is also another test, on the GACA FARs. For the most part the Saudis photocopied the FAA FARAIM and called them the Saudi regs. There are a few differences tho, like transition altitude, calling for an engine start clearance, ATC clearance procedures, etc. The test on the regs is open book, and the questions pretty much come in the same order that the info appears in the book of regs they give you. Most of the answers have been underlined in the book by previous people who took the test. If you can read English, there will be no problem and it will be easy. In spite of how easy this is, when I took the test, there was a Saudi Saudi Airlines DEC in the test room with me , and he asked to copy my test. We both had different versions of the test, so I was tempted to let him do it.
There is an American former FAA guy working at GACA, Tommy Schmidt. He is a nice guy, and you could call him if you have any questions about anything GACA related. +966-505979877.
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There is an American former FAA guy working at GACA, Tommy Schmidt. He is a nice guy, and you could call him if you have any questions about anything GACA related. +966-505979877.
Although there are few errors in the GACA written, but 96 becoming 76 chances are next to impossible. No personal attack intended.
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Mutt,
yes you are correct. i am thinking that SVA is not for me.
I have just heard a capt's moneys for his childs schools was sent back by his bank for no money in the saudi account. have the paychecks been bad to?
I have not herd of late or bad salarys but i did hear about the bad check he was givin.
First I was thinking most of the stories are not true, but after hearing the same things over again from different peoples there, it must have some truth.
with the days off changes, no systems in place for the positive travel once a month to homes, Bad School moneys Checks, and all. I will pass. plus my friends said they don't want to get catched talking bad about this place, so they will not say from there mouths on this web, they just want to look for new jobs already.
Thanks for all the infos from every guys here . I am glad i did not waste my times and Saudis times.
good lucks to all there.
Chuckunu
yes you are correct. i am thinking that SVA is not for me.
I have just heard a capt's moneys for his childs schools was sent back by his bank for no money in the saudi account. have the paychecks been bad to?
I have not herd of late or bad salarys but i did hear about the bad check he was givin.
First I was thinking most of the stories are not true, but after hearing the same things over again from different peoples there, it must have some truth.
with the days off changes, no systems in place for the positive travel once a month to homes, Bad School moneys Checks, and all. I will pass. plus my friends said they don't want to get catched talking bad about this place, so they will not say from there mouths on this web, they just want to look for new jobs already.
Thanks for all the infos from every guys here . I am glad i did not waste my times and Saudis times.
good lucks to all there.
Chuckunu