Qatari diplomat held in US flight scare
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Hello Everyone:
I would like to make it clear that the gentleman writing in this forum, Mr togaluck, is not me TOGA LOCK. His views are not my views.
I have been posting in forums and keeping on even keel. By this I want to say that by no means I would make a racist comment.
As per the present thread, well, unfortunate incident. I wouldn't go as far as to call every Qatari "uncultured" because of this situation. However, I must admit that some do behave like little kids, either in Qatar and abroad. Time to grow up fellows!!!
Cheers, and blue side up!!!
I would like to make it clear that the gentleman writing in this forum, Mr togaluck, is not me TOGA LOCK. His views are not my views.
I have been posting in forums and keeping on even keel. By this I want to say that by no means I would make a racist comment.
As per the present thread, well, unfortunate incident. I wouldn't go as far as to call every Qatari "uncultured" because of this situation. However, I must admit that some do behave like little kids, either in Qatar and abroad. Time to grow up fellows!!!
Cheers, and blue side up!!!
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Prior to the discovery of the stuff that comes out of the ground (not sand) most of the trade was done with south asia. Trade back then used to imply that people would stay over make-babies etc. I.e. lots of genetic sharing.
Go to Zanzibar and people dress similar to Omanis of today, thats what trade did back then. Now,its all about tariff barriers and negotiations
Keep in mind that back then DOH/DXB/MCT - KHI/BOM/COK was not a same day turnaround but a month long voyage each way with a month spent at the destination. The ties with the rest of the Arab World was via camel caravans and women rarely traveled.
Just head down to Ras Al Khaiman/Musandam Kumzar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (could not find a better source, i.e. too lazy to google ) / Oman / Yemen and if you take away the traditional dress and dress up (10% , arbitrary figure ) the people in whatever people on the west coast of south asia wear you will not see any marked difference in appearances.
Just voicing my unsubstituted observations as togaluck was voicing its
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"Go to Zanzibar and people dress similar to omanis of today.."
Sounds logic as Zanzibar was part of the Omani empire till the 1860 and was actually its second capital..
"Go to Zanzibar and people dress similar to omanis of today.."
Sounds logic as Zanzibar was part of the Omani empire till the 1860 and was actually its second capital..
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togaluck That "diplomat" secretary looks freakin' indian.... maybe he's one of those son's of DRIVERS qataris.
I beg to differ BadAndy! If you guys have something against the guy for being an insensitive buffoon or a total jackass so be it but dragging up racist cr&p is not acceptable!
I beg to differ BadAndy! If you guys have something against the guy for being an insensitive buffoon or a total jackass so be it but dragging up racist cr&p is not acceptable!
I still don't see anything racist about his comments. And I certainly meant nothing racist by mine. So, either I'm thick-headed and missing something obvious, or you are a little too sensitive and too willing to throw around the "race card." Either way, the guy is still an idiot, and got what he deserved (being removed from the country).
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What's the big deal ?
If he had just been a Joe Public Yank, a good kicking in the slammer and it would all be forgotten. Whoever the dumb arse who called up the F16's should be looking for another job despatching taxi's
If he had just been a Joe Public Yank, a good kicking in the slammer and it would all be forgotten. Whoever the dumb arse who called up the F16's should be looking for another job despatching taxi's
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if you don't see anything offensive by saying " he look's freakin Indian " when he is not then so be it but please explain to me what is the author trying to insinuate?
as for being sensitive maybe we all could be a bit more sensitive to others especially when it involves race and religion?
as for being sensitive maybe we all could be a bit more sensitive to others especially when it involves race and religion?
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Thanks for your candid interest in my post.
First of all I did not say he was indian, i said he LOOKS indian. You can google his picture on any news websites and many people agreee with me. You can almost hear him saying "ok ok Sr." or "no problem, only cigarette Sr. no shoe bomb Mr Airmarshall" wabbling his head.
Second, I wrote "he looks freakin' indian" as an exclamation, not implying that looks LIKE a FREAKIN' INDIAN. Although there are some that get on your nerves, not all of them do, as with any other nationality, race or creed. It was not intended as a racist comment, but if the shoe fits, be my guest. I do stereotype, we all do, it's a human thing.
Third, last time I checked, the internet is a FREE medium, where you can say ANYTHING you want. I have NO reason to be sensitive about your or anybody's national origin, race or religion.
Simply said, if you don't like what you read, DO NOT read it. I believe in freedom of speech.
I will critize anything or anyone I want, Specially an ibecile like that qatari "diplomat secretary" whom I still think shoul have been beaten by angry passengers or shot by the air marshalls and LOOKS indian.
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Thanks for your candid interest in my post.
First of all I did not say he was indian, i said he LOOKS indian. You can google his picture on any news websites and many people agreee with me. You can almost hear him saying "ok ok Sr." or "no problem, only cigarette Sr. no shoe bomb Mr Airmarshall" wabbling his head.
Second, I wrote "he looks freakin' indian" as an exclamation, not implying that looks LIKE a FREAKIN' INDIAN. Although there are some that get on your nerves, not all of them do, as with any other nationality, race or creed. It was not intended as a racist comment, but if the shoe fits, be my guest. I do stereotype, we all do, it's a human thing.
Third, last time I checked, the internet is a FREE medium, where you can say ANYTHING you want. I have NO reason to be sensitive about your or anybody's national origin, race or religion.
Simply said, if you don't like what you read, DO NOT read it. I believe in freedom of speech.
I will critize anything or anyone I want, Specially an ibecile like that qatari "diplomat secretary" whom I still think shoul have been beaten by angry passengers or shot by the air marshalls and LOOKS indian.
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Maybe the person who sent the F16's is the same dumba$$ who set up security screening for crews in the UK.... where they take away the cabin crew's lipstick, since we all KNOW how dangerous it is! specially when it's not on the ziploc bag!!
I think the F16's were overkill, but being one of the countries on constant terror alert, remember the detroit knickers-bomber, people actually understand.
It's almost as overkill as the billions of cameras in the streets of london.
Maybe the person who sent the F16's is the same dumba$$ who set up security screening for crews in the UK.... where they take away the cabin crew's lipstick, since we all KNOW how dangerous it is! specially when it's not on the ziploc bag!!
I think the F16's were overkill, but being one of the countries on constant terror alert, remember the detroit knickers-bomber, people actually understand.
It's almost as overkill as the billions of cameras in the streets of london.
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Like I said..... wait..
Like you said too!!
a345xxx wrote
Don't come here as a holier-than-thou...
Like WE said, if you don't like it, leave.
Ps. By the way, all these gulf countries ARE third world countries. with a lot of money but third world countries.
Like you said too!!
a345xxx wrote
Mana Dubai!!!! Hey this is not some 3rd world country like Myanmar or Zimbabwe! Everyone has the right just like you, however telling people what to say and write is akin to censorship and a dictatorial regime. Very simple if you don't like what you see , don't look and if you don't like what you read start a new anti PPRuNe website and get everyone to boycott PPRuNe. Its your right but don't come here and play the high and almighty!
Don't come here as a holier-than-thou...
Like WE said, if you don't like it, leave.
Ps. By the way, all these gulf countries ARE third world countries. with a lot of money but third world countries.
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In my opinion in all this unfortunate story there are 3 Big Idiots
1- the Pax off course
2- the guy who dispatched 2 F16
3- the happy pilots on this forum, on how all this story of unruly pax was handled .
let me point out some very disturbing remarks from BA, TL, " just put 2 bullets in the chest and one in the head he looks like Indian" isn,t this racial profialing, by the way when you have an escort of 2 F16 no matter if you are from the United State of America or from zigwiwi if the same dud who dispatched the Fighters by any misunderstanding gave them the "Go" you will be history by now.
let me guess the headlines on Fox or Abc news "Another colateral damage".
my point is nothing to be proud off on how all this story was handled we have plenty of this unruly Pax case in all the region no one calls for 150 Mega tonnes Nuclear Bomb the max the guycan get is just blacklisted from flying with the Airline.
WE need wise man in this world we have enough of CowBoys
Very good post A345XX
Fly high and keep it safe.
TM
1- the Pax off course
2- the guy who dispatched 2 F16
3- the happy pilots on this forum, on how all this story of unruly pax was handled .
let me point out some very disturbing remarks from BA, TL, " just put 2 bullets in the chest and one in the head he looks like Indian" isn,t this racial profialing, by the way when you have an escort of 2 F16 no matter if you are from the United State of America or from zigwiwi if the same dud who dispatched the Fighters by any misunderstanding gave them the "Go" you will be history by now.
let me guess the headlines on Fox or Abc news "Another colateral damage".
my point is nothing to be proud off on how all this story was handled we have plenty of this unruly Pax case in all the region no one calls for 150 Mega tonnes Nuclear Bomb the max the guycan get is just blacklisted from flying with the Airline.
WE need wise man in this world we have enough of CowBoys
Very good post A345XX
Fly high and keep it safe.
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THR MCT
You're almost right.
1- OF course (not off-course) the passenger, is the biggest idiot, he could have been shot by the air marshalls, or beaten to death by the passengers, as you know, it has happened before. Imagine the international incident that would have been? All because mohamed al-moron couldn't wait to light up a cigarette, joked about a shoe bomb, on his way to see a terrorist, 4 months after a failed attempt, and thought he wouldn't get in trouble because of his diplomatic immunity. People like that steal oxygen from the rest of us, meaning if it were up to natural selection, he would be a fossil.
2- The guy who dispatched the F16's, not so, remember 9/11?? when airplanes were used to go through buildings? It is now standard procedure in the United States to escort any airliner that has declared a hi-jack or attempted hi-jack. They figure in the worst case scenario, the people on the plane are done (remember 9/11), so if terrorist want to do any more damage, they shoot your a$$ out of the sky. That's how serious the situation concenrning security in that country is. Live with it. Or better yet, don't go.
3- How the story was handled by the happy pilots in this forum, well, it is a pilot's forum, even worst, it's a pilots rumor network forum. So even you are entitled to your opinion.
My point is, they handled the situation for better or worst in the only way they could, what if it had been a real terrorist attack? Welcome to a post 9/11 world.
In this region, unfortunately unruly passengers are given a slap on the wrist and just blacklisted from the airline. They should be HEAVILY FINED according to their means, so that none of these rich bitchhes could brag about it, and JAILED for at least 6 months.
If planes had gone through the burj or any other monument to the inferiority complex in this region, they would act in a very similar way as the Americans do, with a twist, shoot first, ask later.
Like I said you are almost right, we do need wise men in this world, luckily for us it's not you THR MCT or a345xxx
Just to make it clear once again, this is not a racist comment, only an observation, the qatari diplomat in the news picture looks indian.
And for those who are "sensitive" little %@%#, I am NOT implying that looking indian, pakistani, bangladeshi, maldivian, nepali, arab or any other nationality or ethnical background is a bad thing.
You're almost right.
1- OF course (not off-course) the passenger, is the biggest idiot, he could have been shot by the air marshalls, or beaten to death by the passengers, as you know, it has happened before. Imagine the international incident that would have been? All because mohamed al-moron couldn't wait to light up a cigarette, joked about a shoe bomb, on his way to see a terrorist, 4 months after a failed attempt, and thought he wouldn't get in trouble because of his diplomatic immunity. People like that steal oxygen from the rest of us, meaning if it were up to natural selection, he would be a fossil.
2- The guy who dispatched the F16's, not so, remember 9/11?? when airplanes were used to go through buildings? It is now standard procedure in the United States to escort any airliner that has declared a hi-jack or attempted hi-jack. They figure in the worst case scenario, the people on the plane are done (remember 9/11), so if terrorist want to do any more damage, they shoot your a$$ out of the sky. That's how serious the situation concenrning security in that country is. Live with it. Or better yet, don't go.
3- How the story was handled by the happy pilots in this forum, well, it is a pilot's forum, even worst, it's a pilots rumor network forum. So even you are entitled to your opinion.
My point is, they handled the situation for better or worst in the only way they could, what if it had been a real terrorist attack? Welcome to a post 9/11 world.
In this region, unfortunately unruly passengers are given a slap on the wrist and just blacklisted from the airline. They should be HEAVILY FINED according to their means, so that none of these rich bitchhes could brag about it, and JAILED for at least 6 months.
If planes had gone through the burj or any other monument to the inferiority complex in this region, they would act in a very similar way as the Americans do, with a twist, shoot first, ask later.
Like I said you are almost right, we do need wise men in this world, luckily for us it's not you THR MCT or a345xxx
Just to make it clear once again, this is not a racist comment, only an observation, the qatari diplomat in the news picture looks indian.
And for those who are "sensitive" little %@%#, I am NOT implying that looking indian, pakistani, bangladeshi, maldivian, nepali, arab or any other nationality or ethnical background is a bad thing.
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Right you lot. I have removed the worst rubbish, any more posts stating the bleeding obvious about what a particular nationality may or may not look like, will get the user banned.
Calm down please and try and recognise when you are being baited for a response.
EGGW
Calm down please and try and recognise when you are being baited for a response.
EGGW
