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The trouble with a lot of the CLOWNS at QR who believe that they are being treated well by QR or that its acceptable to be given Middle Age rules and directives from a management team that borders on Stalinist is that these same said pilots love the big shiney plane they fly and are in dread of losing their jobs and having to go back to their home countries and look for respectable employment. They will never speak badly of their company because flying a big 330 or a 777 is more important to them than the working conditions they operate under.
QR, EY and EK along with the rest of these Middle East airlines, from what I understand, treat its flight crew like dogc#@p. What makes it worse is that there are those amongst these same said pilot group who find it completely acceptable to be treated in a derogatory manner, who will stand up and defend these companies, who state that all will be better when the economy improves, who feel its acceptable to have to call work and ask for permission to go to the shops and buy milk while on reserve, who feel its ok to have three days off in a row, who feel its fine not to be able to stand for more than 5 minutes in a cafeteria for a cup of tea.
Yet these sam said pilots talk about acting like pilots and being professional!!! Seriously!!!! The above conditions are draconian!!! If you believe that you are treated like a professional airline pilot should be while working at QR, EY or EK for that matter, you really have professional and personal standards that are lower than a snakes belly. To QR management you are nothing more than hired help that will be disposed of at the stroke of a pen. The only difference between you and the cleaners or the cafeteria workers that you see each day is that at least those people know that they are being treated like cr@p.
So long as pilots like Orynx are working for companies like QR things will never change because pilots like Oryx are the exact same pilots who would cross a picket line in order to serve their own personal best interests. I know his type and I know his background. I believe in the US of A his type is called a SCAB.
But say noting bad because you want to keep your job!!!!!!!
QR, EY and EK along with the rest of these Middle East airlines, from what I understand, treat its flight crew like dogc#@p. What makes it worse is that there are those amongst these same said pilot group who find it completely acceptable to be treated in a derogatory manner, who will stand up and defend these companies, who state that all will be better when the economy improves, who feel its acceptable to have to call work and ask for permission to go to the shops and buy milk while on reserve, who feel its ok to have three days off in a row, who feel its fine not to be able to stand for more than 5 minutes in a cafeteria for a cup of tea.
Yet these sam said pilots talk about acting like pilots and being professional!!! Seriously!!!! The above conditions are draconian!!! If you believe that you are treated like a professional airline pilot should be while working at QR, EY or EK for that matter, you really have professional and personal standards that are lower than a snakes belly. To QR management you are nothing more than hired help that will be disposed of at the stroke of a pen. The only difference between you and the cleaners or the cafeteria workers that you see each day is that at least those people know that they are being treated like cr@p.
So long as pilots like Orynx are working for companies like QR things will never change because pilots like Oryx are the exact same pilots who would cross a picket line in order to serve their own personal best interests. I know his type and I know his background. I believe in the US of A his type is called a SCAB.
But say noting bad because you want to keep your job!!!!!!!
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ALPA (Air Line Pilot Association) scablist? Are you serious???? You do not need to be on a "scablist" in order to act like a scab, to walk over your fellow employees, to constantly put your head in the sand and ignore the rubbish working conditions you toil under but at the same time refuse to do anything about. A scablist does not show you whether a pilot is willing to eat cr$p so that they are allowed fly shiney big planes!!!
Scablist from ALPA????? Holy cow, ALPA is the number one organisation in the entire world single handedly responsible for selling pilots and their careers down the proverbial toilet for goodness sake!!!
ALPA!!! What a laugh you gave me when you mentioned that name!!!! Thanks for bringing somehumor to my foggy day!!!
ALPA= read a book called FLYING THE LINE VOL 2!!!!
Scablist from ALPA????? Holy cow, ALPA is the number one organisation in the entire world single handedly responsible for selling pilots and their careers down the proverbial toilet for goodness sake!!!
ALPA!!! What a laugh you gave me when you mentioned that name!!!! Thanks for bringing somehumor to my foggy day!!!
ALPA= read a book called FLYING THE LINE VOL 2!!!!
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Just want to go back to the original well-written post.
Ive read this crew notice dozens of times now and I cant for the life of me comprehend what sort of manager would write provocative drivel such as this.
CAFETERIA – FLIGHT OPS / TECHNICAL BUILDING
PAGE 1 of 1
We are pleased to advise that all Flight Operation / Technical staff can use the
Cafeteria facilities, which is functional effective 16-02-10 at the Flight Ops/Technical
Building during the following off-peak hours ONLY:
Morning: 0800 to 1000 hrs
Afternoon: 1400 to 1600 hrs
Night: 2100 to 2200 hrs
Due to space and time limitation, staff/s are advised to limit their visit to not more than 15 minutes as we would like all staff to get an equal opportunity to use this facility. Continuity of this facility is dependent on sensible usage, staff/s found misusing this privilege will have their access to the cafeteria removed permanently; and furthermore, this could even lead to a disciplinary action taken against the concerned individual. Staff/s are required to strictly adhere to the rules mentioned below:
1. Maintain SILENCE while traversing through the corridor going towards the cafeteria as the cabin crew briefing rooms are located in this area.
2. If the cafeteria is completely occupied, staff/s are advised NOT TO WAIT in the corridor but to return to their seats.
This facility is a privilege therefore please do not abuse it.
and in a reasonable, professional, courteous, respectful manner.
p.s. the plural of staff is staff not staffs.
CAFETERIA – FLIGHT OPS / TECHNICAL BUILDING
PAGE 1 of 1
We are pleased to advise that all Flight Operation / Technical staff can use the Cafeteria facilities, which are functional effective 16-02-10 at the Flight Ops/Technical.
Due to the limited space in the cafeteria would tech staff please use the facility during the following times:
• Morning: 0800 to 1000 hrs
• Afternoon: 1400 to 1600 hrs
• Night: 2100 to 2200 hrs
please also be aware of the crew briefing rooms in the area so we ask that staff not wait in the corridor but to return to their seats and keep noise to a minimum in the corridors around the cabin crew briefing rooms.
Thank you for your co-operation with regards to the above requests.
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Makes an incredible difference doesnt it AB, HM, etc?
Treat us with dignity and give us the respect we deserve and will become far more productive and useful to the company. Carry on the way you are and the place will continue to be a training college where pilots type rate and leave.
Ive read this crew notice dozens of times now and I cant for the life of me comprehend what sort of manager would write provocative drivel such as this.
CAFETERIA – FLIGHT OPS / TECHNICAL BUILDING
PAGE 1 of 1
We are pleased to advise that all Flight Operation / Technical staff can use the
Cafeteria facilities, which is functional effective 16-02-10 at the Flight Ops/Technical
Building during the following off-peak hours ONLY:
Morning: 0800 to 1000 hrs
Afternoon: 1400 to 1600 hrs
Night: 2100 to 2200 hrs
Due to space and time limitation, staff/s are advised to limit their visit to not more than 15 minutes as we would like all staff to get an equal opportunity to use this facility. Continuity of this facility is dependent on sensible usage, staff/s found misusing this privilege will have their access to the cafeteria removed permanently; and furthermore, this could even lead to a disciplinary action taken against the concerned individual. Staff/s are required to strictly adhere to the rules mentioned below:
1. Maintain SILENCE while traversing through the corridor going towards the cafeteria as the cabin crew briefing rooms are located in this area.
2. If the cafeteria is completely occupied, staff/s are advised NOT TO WAIT in the corridor but to return to their seats.
This facility is a privilege therefore please do not abuse it.
and in a reasonable, professional, courteous, respectful manner.
p.s. the plural of staff is staff not staffs.
CAFETERIA – FLIGHT OPS / TECHNICAL BUILDING
PAGE 1 of 1
We are pleased to advise that all Flight Operation / Technical staff can use the Cafeteria facilities, which are functional effective 16-02-10 at the Flight Ops/Technical.
Due to the limited space in the cafeteria would tech staff please use the facility during the following times:
• Morning: 0800 to 1000 hrs
• Afternoon: 1400 to 1600 hrs
• Night: 2100 to 2200 hrs
please also be aware of the crew briefing rooms in the area so we ask that staff not wait in the corridor but to return to their seats and keep noise to a minimum in the corridors around the cabin crew briefing rooms.
Thank you for your co-operation with regards to the above requests.
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Makes an incredible difference doesnt it AB, HM, etc?
Treat us with dignity and give us the respect we deserve and will become far more productive and useful to the company. Carry on the way you are and the place will continue to be a training college where pilots type rate and leave.
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I'm not a QR pilot but is it just a coincidence that Capt Oryx has not posted a response on this thread since his cover was ostensibly blown?
I am always skeptical of posters that are not objective. Truth and reality is always some where in the middle. There must be some good things about flying for QR and have no doubt that there are also lots of negatives. Reality of flying in the expat world. We will always be outsiders that are expendable as there are many knocking on the door you recently were allowed to enter.
I am always skeptical of posters that are not objective. Truth and reality is always some where in the middle. There must be some good things about flying for QR and have no doubt that there are also lots of negatives. Reality of flying in the expat world. We will always be outsiders that are expendable as there are many knocking on the door you recently were allowed to enter.
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Chill Out
Having an opinion is everyone's right and we all give ours. Taking it personal is something else...
Being a judge of someone you don't know all about..i dont know what to say.
Any company in today's world has its positive's and negatives.
If you really believe in something stand up for it. Airing one's opinion in a rumour forum will not give you the desired outcome. Or maybe you are using this just to air your opinions and not look for improvement or some other reason......which you definitely have a right to. this is a rumour forum afterall.
If you decide to do something then you:
either live with your decision like a human /
try your best to make the best out of it /
suggest better options for change /
If the above options fail, then one can look for a different environment alltogether
many options;
I have been around people who only crib and make the work environment not so very interesting and it doesn't help.
Mate is meant as a good gesture. Its not friendship. Its what we use as a casual term. Dont think I have taken you to be a buddy, coz It will need more getting to know each other mate!
Cheers and Happy Landings!
Being a judge of someone you don't know all about..i dont know what to say.
Any company in today's world has its positive's and negatives.
If you really believe in something stand up for it. Airing one's opinion in a rumour forum will not give you the desired outcome. Or maybe you are using this just to air your opinions and not look for improvement or some other reason......which you definitely have a right to. this is a rumour forum afterall.
If you decide to do something then you:
either live with your decision like a human /
try your best to make the best out of it /
suggest better options for change /
If the above options fail, then one can look for a different environment alltogether
many options;
I have been around people who only crib and make the work environment not so very interesting and it doesn't help.
Mate is meant as a good gesture. Its not friendship. Its what we use as a casual term. Dont think I have taken you to be a buddy, coz It will need more getting to know each other mate!
Cheers and Happy Landings!
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Maverick quote: No body is forcing anyone to be where they dont want to be. Don't criticize the job/company that brings the food to your table mate.
If everybody was thinking like you we will still be living in cave ..
If everybody was thinking like you we will still be living in cave ..
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Tintin:
out of context example:
This is a more complex situation we are dealing with. Positive Change is the only thing we humans crave for as indicated in my post.
Being in the cave and complaining about not being able to get the kill to come to you is the scenario that exists!
So go out and get the kill if you can hunt! Dont SIT IN and complain...
out of context example:
This is a more complex situation we are dealing with. Positive Change is the only thing we humans crave for as indicated in my post.
Being in the cave and complaining about not being able to get the kill to come to you is the scenario that exists!
So go out and get the kill if you can hunt! Dont SIT IN and complain...
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Maverick,
your post is one of the most ridiculous i've seen on this website.
We MUST criticise and express our opinions and that is in the BEST interest of the company that is putting food on our table. Ill treatment of flight crew is a known issue here and that has to change or the ambitious plans for creating a major company will crash and burn.
Discipline is one thing, and i stress dscipline is important for this company, but purposely making the life of your employees miserable with actions that have no whatsoever benefit to the company is nothing but stupid. You can not have have commercials on every major tv network in the world and at the same time have unhappy or happy but kicked out from the rest of the world pilots operate your aircraft worth hundreds of millions. This will backfire sooner or later.
your post is one of the most ridiculous i've seen on this website.
We MUST criticise and express our opinions and that is in the BEST interest of the company that is putting food on our table. Ill treatment of flight crew is a known issue here and that has to change or the ambitious plans for creating a major company will crash and burn.
Discipline is one thing, and i stress dscipline is important for this company, but purposely making the life of your employees miserable with actions that have no whatsoever benefit to the company is nothing but stupid. You can not have have commercials on every major tv network in the world and at the same time have unhappy or happy but kicked out from the rest of the world pilots operate your aircraft worth hundreds of millions. This will backfire sooner or later.
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Funny, somebody should mention a positive change...
Previous experience shows, changes are usually for worst, not for the best. We, the humankind, always hope for the best, but I came to hope for NO change.
The new boss is NEVER better than the other and the new pay package is not actually an increase. No mater what they tell you...
By bitching and moaning one only poisons one's own mind. Period.
The happiness, which all seek, is inside, so look for it there.
Find yourselves something you enjoy and concentrate on it.
Or not - I, for one, don't care.
Wish you all immortality!
Cheers!
Previous experience shows, changes are usually for worst, not for the best. We, the humankind, always hope for the best, but I came to hope for NO change.
The new boss is NEVER better than the other and the new pay package is not actually an increase. No mater what they tell you...
By bitching and moaning one only poisons one's own mind. Period.
The happiness, which all seek, is inside, so look for it there.
Find yourselves something you enjoy and concentrate on it.
Or not - I, for one, don't care.
Wish you all immortality!
Cheers!
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Wakbaralwaker (and what a great handle),
It's been a while since I peeked in here and what do I find but a lucid, accurate, factual post! Thank you.
I've been sitting back wondering what lunacy has suddenly reared its ugly head (once again for it's cyclical here - I speak from experience) that appears determined to drive away the competent and qualified pilots we are finally 'attracting' to this cowboy outfit?
In a REAL airline, if you complete the job you're hired for (say 80 hours a month), the said company doesn't care what you do with the time remaining. Here, aside from having to pay for a get-out-of-goal card, our management is determined to screw our lives simply for the fun of it!
Other than the likes of management wannabees like maverdick and captain goat, most pilots do this job for money AND at the same time, to have a life!
Furthermore, airlines that need expatriate pilots recognise this and provide rosters that allow the pilots, whose families cannot/will not be with them where they are based, to be with them on a regular basis. Clearly, unless they live in Bahrain, 3 days off will not work for them.
As for the tone of the notices, it's someone's power trip. And we all know where that comes from. Disregard them. I find that the easiest way.
GB
It's been a while since I peeked in here and what do I find but a lucid, accurate, factual post! Thank you.
I've been sitting back wondering what lunacy has suddenly reared its ugly head (once again for it's cyclical here - I speak from experience) that appears determined to drive away the competent and qualified pilots we are finally 'attracting' to this cowboy outfit?
In a REAL airline, if you complete the job you're hired for (say 80 hours a month), the said company doesn't care what you do with the time remaining. Here, aside from having to pay for a get-out-of-goal card, our management is determined to screw our lives simply for the fun of it!
Other than the likes of management wannabees like maverdick and captain goat, most pilots do this job for money AND at the same time, to have a life!
Furthermore, airlines that need expatriate pilots recognise this and provide rosters that allow the pilots, whose families cannot/will not be with them where they are based, to be with them on a regular basis. Clearly, unless they live in Bahrain, 3 days off will not work for them.
As for the tone of the notices, it's someone's power trip. And we all know where that comes from. Disregard them. I find that the easiest way.
GB
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Simple Math
Why pilots don't get more than three days off? Let's ask a few simple questions:
How many pilots are provided with company accommodation?
How much money does it represent every month?
Who owns the compounds where pilots live?
Who benefits from pilots not having a commuting contract?
If you want to look good and get a promotion, how would you signal to the the Landlord that you are on his side?
What's going on here has nothing to do with power trips, sadism or any other conspiratorial reasons. It is strictly business. Simple Math. Add up, multiply, and you will get an idea of how much business would be lost if people don't stay in Doha.
Other good reasons that come to mind?
1) Getting days off would make it easier for anyone to assist to interviews in other places.
2) Management cocked up so badly in the past and so many people left, that the company doesn't have enough pilots to cover the rostering requirements, hence the increase of duty time and the decrease of days off.
3) Management intuitively knows that making you a slave will help them fill their pockets. Read some history and you will find plenty of examples about that.
Now, let's stretch our mental muscles a bit and imagine a hypothetical situation: one pilot gets an interview with another company. He doesn't have enough days off to attend, so he pulls a fast one: he goes anyway and doesn't come back for his duty. In his standby day, he doesn't even answer his phone: he is very busy somewhere else. When he decides to return, he tells the company that he has been sick out of base but, in the end, he doesn't even bother to submit a medical certificate to prove it. Later, when he gets the job, he hands in his resignation to the Fleet Manager with a selfish smirk on his face, secretly thinking "Gotcha". The boss realizes that he has been screwed, and now, fearing that this might happen again, he issues a series of directives with menacing undertones, mentioning "Disciplinary Action" in a most overt manner.
Remember how Black Magic works: "Disciplinary Action", "Three days off" is the present backdrop, the understated magic spell this time, as "Evian" was a few months back. We give power to these symbols if we take them seriously, and they lose power if we laugh heartily at them. Break the spell and don't fall trap of this Old Black Magic!!!
So, coming back to my hypothesis, I am not saying that all these things actually happened in one event. However, if we consider the amount of pilots that have resigned in the last 6 months, I would be surprised if this picture I am drawing with my eyes closed isn't very close to reality. The way I see it is that, in this part of the world, we are subjected to Reactive Management as opposed to Proactive Management, meaning, rules are made as we go along without any foresight. Once someone does something that hurts a manager's Ego, the Lining of his Pockets or the Whimsical Arbitrariness of his Autocracy, Collective Punishment is brought upon the rest of us with a clear message: "You shall not screw around with me ever again". Anyway, who said that a manager's job is to Care or to Share? His job is to Manage, albeit well or not.
On another subject, remember that these Aircrew Notices were written by people that only have two templates in their minds: 1) "It is not allowed by …… (fill the dotted line with an Authority Figure or your favourite Deity)". 2) "If you do not follow the rules you shall be punished by …… (fill the dotted line with an Authority Figure or your favourite Deity)". This template is as old as the Old Testament. When Moses came down from Mount Sinai and talked to his people in the wilderness, he gave them one of the first legal codes in history. It was not written in "legalese". It was written in "bullet points". Not so much as laws but straightforward imperative statements. Something that must be followed blindly and is not open to debate or interpretation. Therefore, you shall not expect any better from someone who was living in a similar environment only 20 years ago. Someone mentioned Middle Ages, well, I would go a bit further than that. Maybe one day, these gentlemen will grow up, stop pulling tantrums like little children and behave like adults. They may even learn how to write Aircrew Notices. This day, we'll be happy to welcome them to the 25th century, if a life extension pill is developed and we are still around. Meanwhile, I wouldn't take things so much to heart. It is not personal.
In conclusion, on one side it looks like the company is going out of their way to curtail your liberties. However, if you look closely, with a sharp eye, you will see how lost these bozos are. They realize their boat is sinking, and have no other way of saving it. Putting out fires as they flare out is the only unenlightened way they know. To me, it doesn't look like they know how to manage. A shrewd manager will give you crap and you will eat it with a smile on your face! What prevails in this situation is economic interest, mere incompetence and a raw display of lack of understanding of other cultures and belief systems. And even worst, not even the slightest intention to think out of the box and realize that things could be done better, synergistically and for the common good. Someone once said: "No man ever listened himself out of a job."
Cheers, and Blue Side Up!
How many pilots are provided with company accommodation?
How much money does it represent every month?
Who owns the compounds where pilots live?
Who benefits from pilots not having a commuting contract?
If you want to look good and get a promotion, how would you signal to the the Landlord that you are on his side?
What's going on here has nothing to do with power trips, sadism or any other conspiratorial reasons. It is strictly business. Simple Math. Add up, multiply, and you will get an idea of how much business would be lost if people don't stay in Doha.
Other good reasons that come to mind?
1) Getting days off would make it easier for anyone to assist to interviews in other places.
2) Management cocked up so badly in the past and so many people left, that the company doesn't have enough pilots to cover the rostering requirements, hence the increase of duty time and the decrease of days off.
3) Management intuitively knows that making you a slave will help them fill their pockets. Read some history and you will find plenty of examples about that.
Now, let's stretch our mental muscles a bit and imagine a hypothetical situation: one pilot gets an interview with another company. He doesn't have enough days off to attend, so he pulls a fast one: he goes anyway and doesn't come back for his duty. In his standby day, he doesn't even answer his phone: he is very busy somewhere else. When he decides to return, he tells the company that he has been sick out of base but, in the end, he doesn't even bother to submit a medical certificate to prove it. Later, when he gets the job, he hands in his resignation to the Fleet Manager with a selfish smirk on his face, secretly thinking "Gotcha". The boss realizes that he has been screwed, and now, fearing that this might happen again, he issues a series of directives with menacing undertones, mentioning "Disciplinary Action" in a most overt manner.
Remember how Black Magic works: "Disciplinary Action", "Three days off" is the present backdrop, the understated magic spell this time, as "Evian" was a few months back. We give power to these symbols if we take them seriously, and they lose power if we laugh heartily at them. Break the spell and don't fall trap of this Old Black Magic!!!
So, coming back to my hypothesis, I am not saying that all these things actually happened in one event. However, if we consider the amount of pilots that have resigned in the last 6 months, I would be surprised if this picture I am drawing with my eyes closed isn't very close to reality. The way I see it is that, in this part of the world, we are subjected to Reactive Management as opposed to Proactive Management, meaning, rules are made as we go along without any foresight. Once someone does something that hurts a manager's Ego, the Lining of his Pockets or the Whimsical Arbitrariness of his Autocracy, Collective Punishment is brought upon the rest of us with a clear message: "You shall not screw around with me ever again". Anyway, who said that a manager's job is to Care or to Share? His job is to Manage, albeit well or not.
On another subject, remember that these Aircrew Notices were written by people that only have two templates in their minds: 1) "It is not allowed by …… (fill the dotted line with an Authority Figure or your favourite Deity)". 2) "If you do not follow the rules you shall be punished by …… (fill the dotted line with an Authority Figure or your favourite Deity)". This template is as old as the Old Testament. When Moses came down from Mount Sinai and talked to his people in the wilderness, he gave them one of the first legal codes in history. It was not written in "legalese". It was written in "bullet points". Not so much as laws but straightforward imperative statements. Something that must be followed blindly and is not open to debate or interpretation. Therefore, you shall not expect any better from someone who was living in a similar environment only 20 years ago. Someone mentioned Middle Ages, well, I would go a bit further than that. Maybe one day, these gentlemen will grow up, stop pulling tantrums like little children and behave like adults. They may even learn how to write Aircrew Notices. This day, we'll be happy to welcome them to the 25th century, if a life extension pill is developed and we are still around. Meanwhile, I wouldn't take things so much to heart. It is not personal.
In conclusion, on one side it looks like the company is going out of their way to curtail your liberties. However, if you look closely, with a sharp eye, you will see how lost these bozos are. They realize their boat is sinking, and have no other way of saving it. Putting out fires as they flare out is the only unenlightened way they know. To me, it doesn't look like they know how to manage. A shrewd manager will give you crap and you will eat it with a smile on your face! What prevails in this situation is economic interest, mere incompetence and a raw display of lack of understanding of other cultures and belief systems. And even worst, not even the slightest intention to think out of the box and realize that things could be done better, synergistically and for the common good. Someone once said: "No man ever listened himself out of a job."
Cheers, and Blue Side Up!
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The Witch Doctor and the Death Bone
Thanks guys for the encouraging words. I have some additional thoughts on this topic.
If a Witch Doctor points at a victim with a Death Bone and casts a spell on him, this can cause him sickness and eventual death. There are indeed many registered cases in all cultures about this phenomenon. How is this possible? I would like to further an possible explanation: What kills the person is not the Death Bone, as a bone in itself has no special power. What kills the victim is the BELIEF that Death Bones can kill and the FEAR they have for the Witch Doctor.
I am just trying to show you here where is the Death Bone and who is the Witch Doctor that holds it. But most importantly, I am trying to show you how to avoid being the victim: laugh heartily, rise above your circumstances and don't fall for their tricks. Consider this post a grimoire that can help you overcome any problems you might encounter as you deal with the Black Magic of everyday's life. Read it again and again, and it will bring you good luck and protection. Trust me, it works, as long as you BELIEVE ME ;-)
Cheers, and Blue Side Up!
If a Witch Doctor points at a victim with a Death Bone and casts a spell on him, this can cause him sickness and eventual death. There are indeed many registered cases in all cultures about this phenomenon. How is this possible? I would like to further an possible explanation: What kills the person is not the Death Bone, as a bone in itself has no special power. What kills the victim is the BELIEF that Death Bones can kill and the FEAR they have for the Witch Doctor.
I am just trying to show you here where is the Death Bone and who is the Witch Doctor that holds it. But most importantly, I am trying to show you how to avoid being the victim: laugh heartily, rise above your circumstances and don't fall for their tricks. Consider this post a grimoire that can help you overcome any problems you might encounter as you deal with the Black Magic of everyday's life. Read it again and again, and it will bring you good luck and protection. Trust me, it works, as long as you BELIEVE ME ;-)
Cheers, and Blue Side Up!
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laugh heartily, rise above your circumstances and don't fall for their tricks.
TOGA, difficult to do what you say, although i agree that things would be better if we stop repeating what we hear to other people and laugh about it.
