EK Captain Arrested at EGHQ
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From: Arizona USA
Very similar to what has happened in that other bastion if middle east reality (Saudi Arabia) when the new Riyadh airport opened.
Operating Captain nearly arrested by immigration authorities on the first inbound international flight...for not having an entry visa.
However, in this case, the company was 'on top' of the situation, and kept the Captain out of jail (just) and further offered said Captain, if he was actually arrested in future, proper vittles...a ham sandwich, with either mayonnaise or mustard, his choice.
Operating Captain nearly arrested by immigration authorities on the first inbound international flight...for not having an entry visa.
However, in this case, the company was 'on top' of the situation, and kept the Captain out of jail (just) and further offered said Captain, if he was actually arrested in future, proper vittles...a ham sandwich, with either mayonnaise or mustard, his choice.
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From: Europe
pool, exactly.
i was on the same brain wavelength... It's the only strategy to survive here, being sarcastic. EK: Amen.
How low can you go...
We are sinking to new lows every week, every day. I really get sick of this place and the morons who are in charge at EK.
I hope EK gets some well deserved publicity for this farce...
i was on the same brain wavelength... It's the only strategy to survive here, being sarcastic. EK: Amen.
How low can you go...We are sinking to new lows every week, every day. I really get sick of this place and the morons who are in charge at EK.
I hope EK gets some well deserved publicity for this farce...
Last edited by 5star; 8th February 2010 at 16:03.
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From: usa
This is not a first....
Let's not forget that this is not the first time. Just a few months ago an one of our guys was arrested while going through security simply because the officer on duty felt slighted and decided to make an example of the guy by having him arrested.
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From: Dubai
The plods on duty at the airport are post-pubescent, barely-moustachioed juveniles who were smart enough to get a gov't job but not smart enough to land anything white collar. True to their culture, they are ready to find offense in any sideways look you might give when the metal detector goes off and they grunt at you - "Ughh. Shoes. Shoes."
More concerned with the perpetual flow of SMSs to and from their phone, they are found head-down at the bottom of the escalators doing absolutely nothing apart from perving on the chicks and sneaking off for a spank of the monkey when it gets too much.
No, this "bust" would've been carried out by the elite of Dubai's Finest who obviously decided it'd be safest to "take him down" at the airport when he signed on rather than apply their carefully-honed detective skills and actually go see him AT HIS F**KING HOUSE!
This EK pilot would no doubt have been visited in the Big House by one of TCAS's flunkies (like Ed) to sack him for "bringing the Emirates name into disrepute", thereby saving EK the embarrassment of having a "felon" in their midst.
They wouldn't bail him out but I'm sure his annual leave balance has already been debited for his unauthorised absence.
What a f**king three-ring circus this place has become.
More concerned with the perpetual flow of SMSs to and from their phone, they are found head-down at the bottom of the escalators doing absolutely nothing apart from perving on the chicks and sneaking off for a spank of the monkey when it gets too much.
No, this "bust" would've been carried out by the elite of Dubai's Finest who obviously decided it'd be safest to "take him down" at the airport when he signed on rather than apply their carefully-honed detective skills and actually go see him AT HIS F**KING HOUSE!
This EK pilot would no doubt have been visited in the Big House by one of TCAS's flunkies (like Ed) to sack him for "bringing the Emirates name into disrepute", thereby saving EK the embarrassment of having a "felon" in their midst.
They wouldn't bail him out but I'm sure his annual leave balance has already been debited for his unauthorised absence.
What a f**king three-ring circus this place has become.
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From: OS
Just another straw, soon to tumble down....
Ok mistakes can happen, but to arrest straight away???
Suspected absconder, what do they teach at police school? We have him, Sir, so don’t think he is missing!!!
Which FDM was inefficient in his role as communicator? Isn’t it their job to help crews or was that missed in the brief of their new role.
Suspected absconder, what do they teach at police school? We have him, Sir, so don’t think he is missing!!!
Which FDM was inefficient in his role as communicator? Isn’t it their job to help crews or was that missed in the brief of their new role.
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From: OS
Sponsorship responsibilities
Apparently, our beloved fleet management, would do nothing about it, and told his wife it was not Emirates problem and she should pay bail.
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From: Mars
My favourite security is Newcastle. I always feel like explaining that the Capt getting naked in front of the SLF will not make any improvement in safety but then realise there is no point. How long will it take before they spot that even if the flight deck crew have a 2000lb bomb up their anus it doesn't actually increase the risk as they are about to become a guidance system for a 750,000lb chunk of metal.
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From: FUBAR
Looking from afar through binoculars (as I have no desire to come to the concrete paradise) I kinda wondered why they seemed so desperate to recruit, I am beginning to get it now.
So old Knowleseys replacement wasn't an improvement then ?
Edited to say, as I had no interest to come I didn't really read much of the other threads, OK, I have read a couple now.
Now I REALLY understand, and to think how many starry-eyed Ryanair guys still think this is some sort of an improvement
So old Knowleseys replacement wasn't an improvement then ?
Edited to say, as I had no interest to come I didn't really read much of the other threads, OK, I have read a couple now.
Now I REALLY understand, and to think how many starry-eyed Ryanair guys still think this is some sort of an improvement
Last edited by captplaystation; 14th February 2010 at 17:36.
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From: The Heavens
I guess the lesson from this is that if you get into a similar spot of bother then you are on your own. I always thought (rightly or wrongly) that if I was falsely accused of a crime or taken away by officialdom, that my sponsor might have at least a moral obligation towards my welfare. The captain in question was in an office for up to 3 hours less than 100m from the FDM and his calls for assistance were allegedly met with "its not our problem".
At least now we are all very clear where we stand should something similar happen.
At least now we are all very clear where we stand should something similar happen.
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From: UAE
EK Trng Capt Arrested at HQ
Apologies as this is a Rumour Forum, but here are the Facts: Although already mentioned, details were little sketchy. Thought this may be useful to those already here and those intending to join EK.
SAFA EK Training Capt attempted to sign on recently for his JNB flt at the EGHQ, but access was denied. Advised his FO to contact FDM. FDM (I.S) showed NO support whatsoever
Capt held in HQ for nearly 3hrs. FMA J.M (since moved on) was contacted and then advised its not Flt Ops business to get involved! Capt taken on joy-ride in his uniform and with crew suitcase around DXB picking up real criminals. "Invited" to spend a night in jail with a room full of dubious looking characters. Capt's rather distressed wife calls EK Welfare Help-line no. Told to look through the Yellow pages, draw Dh 50 000 and go and bail him out! This at 9pm. 
At no time was the Capt contacted by anyone. Released following day.
Chief Pilot commented that he did not get involved personally as there was so much support from the Co. Capt recommended that there be a system in place that this type of traumatic event does not happen ever again, and if so, that communication levels were readily available and manned by suitable staff. His reply was that that was not necessary as there was "no need to alarm the pilot group!"
Reason for a night in Jail? Confusion over Maid absconding and name mix-up, apparently. Wonder where they thought the Capt was absconding to signing on at EGHQ in uniform???
Gentleman/Ladies. Just the FACTS, I hope you share this at the Roadshows (JNB) that are due shortly. That together with the other serious issues that are mentioned here on PPRuNe. The Recruitment team are reporting back that this Forum is damaging the recruitment process. Remind yourselves just WHO is doing that damage.
Ignore this at your own peril....
SAFA EK Training Capt attempted to sign on recently for his JNB flt at the EGHQ, but access was denied. Advised his FO to contact FDM. FDM (I.S) showed NO support whatsoever
Capt held in HQ for nearly 3hrs. FMA J.M (since moved on) was contacted and then advised its not Flt Ops business to get involved!
Capt taken on joy-ride in his uniform and with crew suitcase around DXB picking up real criminals. "Invited" to spend a night in jail with a room full of dubious looking characters. Capt's rather distressed wife calls EK Welfare Help-line no. Told to look through the Yellow pages, draw Dh 50 000 and go and bail him out! This at 9pm. At no time was the Capt contacted by anyone. Released following day.
Chief Pilot commented that he did not get involved personally as there was so much support from the Co. Capt recommended that there be a system in place that this type of traumatic event does not happen ever again, and if so, that communication levels were readily available and manned by suitable staff. His reply was that that was not necessary as there was "no need to alarm the pilot group!"
Reason for a night in Jail? Confusion over Maid absconding and name mix-up, apparently. Wonder where they thought the Capt was absconding to signing on at EGHQ in uniform???
Gentleman/Ladies. Just the FACTS, I hope you share this at the Roadshows (JNB) that are due shortly. That together with the other serious issues that are mentioned here on PPRuNe. The Recruitment team are reporting back that this Forum is damaging the recruitment process. Remind yourselves just WHO is doing that damage.
Ignore this at your own peril....
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From: Post-Pit and Lovin' It.
The Recruitment team are reporting back that this Forum is damaging the recruitment process.
No...this Forum is not damaging the recruitment process.
EMIRATES AIRLINES' ARROGANCE, SYSTEMIC DISHONESTY, AND TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES RANGING FROM INCOMPETENCE, TO CASUAL NEGLECT, TO TARGETED ABUSE...is damaging the recruitment process.
This Forum is simply the medium by which their methods are being disseminated.
Fool me once....(those who already joined), and shame on you Emirates. But fool me twice? (those still coming)...Well...?!?
