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Old 6th Jan 2010, 14:17
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Commuters have been subject tax in Aus for decades, nothing there has changed. If your family and life outside work are in Aus, you are resident for tax purposes.

You do, however, only pay the difference between what you pay in the country where you work and what you would pay earning in Aus. The Korean dael is, I believe, net of Korean tax, so the amount you pay is substantially less than if you were paying full Aussie tax.

Americans have to pay tax even if they AREN'T resident, so I'm not sure what you mean there.
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Old 6th Jan 2010, 14:54
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US Taxes,
American citizens MUST FILE tax forms EVERY YEAR no matter where they reside/live/shack-up or co-hort.
Wether you pay anything is entirely different.
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Old 6th Jan 2010, 15:03
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confirmed

Just called the Mercure hotel in Al Ain. 037838888 and they confirmed Korean Air will be there from the 27th to the 30th. Should we charter a Bus??????
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Old 6th Jan 2010, 16:03
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Do you need an invite or can you just drop in?
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Old 6th Jan 2010, 16:28
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We could charter, and probably fill an EK 777.
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Old 6th Jan 2010, 17:26
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27th- 30th of Jan. Al Ain.. same dates as the Airshow.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 20:25
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Something doesn't seem right about this Korean "roadshow" at Al Ain. They simply do not hire expat's directly. As has been posted already, expat's are always hired through an agency. Is KAL just in Al Ain in connection with the airshow itself???

..confused...

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Old 8th Jan 2010, 03:59
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Heard that the guy running the Al Ain days is an ex EK pilot, now in Korean recruitment.

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Old 8th Jan 2010, 15:26
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Yeah I thought about that too, Jinglied. But then again, KAL gets prospective pilots from agencies but you still have to pass their assessments. So why not pre-empt things and discard the pilots they consider unsuitable instead of getting recommendations from an agency about a massive resource of pilots from one airline and THEN making their choices.

Anyhow, hope its true. It would be a good thing for EK pilots interested in KAL plus it might actually benefit pilots choosing to remain at EK. A couple hundred pilots expressing interest in Al Ain would surely encourage a response from EK management.

Sometimes, well in fact almost always, it takes a dramatic event or series of events for our managers to actually reconsider their position. Unfortunately, due to the recent worldwide aviation decline, they have been able to push things beyond comprehension. But eventually things will bite them in the ass.
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Old 8th Jan 2010, 16:22
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Then why would KAL go to Al Ain , last time I checked there were no big carriers there. Just cant see it happening, hope I'm wrong
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Old 8th Jan 2010, 18:27
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Watch for "spies". Al Ain could have been chosen to stay out of arm's length from infiltrators. They'll be there anyway.
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Old 8th Jan 2010, 19:22
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KE will honour a contract when it suits them, but they do not feel bound by it. They will break it when they want to, but expect the pilots to abide by the contract all the time. The local pilots will take a pay cut if it means a foreigner will be fired. Medicals are horrendous I am glad I don't have to do them any more. Staring into that fish bowl for hours is enough to put me into bed for a week and they take enough blood each year to keep a good sized hospital running. Do not give landings to the FOs they will let you down. It is not worth risking your licence or your job just to be a good guy. If you think the FOs want to learn from you or you can make a difference, forget it. They will stab you in the back in a heartbeat and their allegience will always be to their colleagues. An English Check Captain once told me that I should forget what it says in the regulations and operations manuals, but to copy the local captains no matter how unsafe or stupid it seemed. Otherwise I could not pass my check rides. A Korean pilot has no chance of flying outside Korea, they do not speak English well enough and their personal standards are way less than ICAO. The airline has some strange ideas you cannot break. They pay lip service only to regulations. They have no knowledge of regulations other than their own. The local captains do not let the FOs fly (except if they are classmates from the Air Force) so why should you? All this does not apply to all Korean pilots, some of them are as good or better than any in the world, but as a generalization should help you to know what you are getting into. There are a couple of admin people you will get to know who are absolutely the best guys and girls you will ever work with. Not all, but a couple. The Korean people outside the industry are truly salt of the earth and the food is healthy and tasty. Cabin service is great, although don't expect them to be knowledgeable about safety.
US pilots have a tax agreement with Korea and are not subject to income tax to the US.
" UNITED STATES - REPUBLIC OF KOREA INCOME TAX CONVENTION
Convention Signed at Seoul June 4, 1976;
Ratification Advised by the Senate of the United States of America July 9, 1979;
Ratified by the President of the United States of America July 25, 1979;
Ratified by the Republic of Korea December 16, 1976;
Ratifications Exchanged at Washington September 20, 1979;
Proclaimed by the President of the United States of America October 23, 1979;
Entered into Force October 20, 1979.
GENERAL EFFECTIVE DATE UNDER ARTICLE 31: 1 JANUARY 1980
ARTICLE 19
Dependent Personal Services
(1) Wages, salaries, and similar remuneration derived by an individual who is a resident of one of the Contracting States from labor or personal services performed as an employee, including remuneration from services performed by an officer of a corporation, may be taxed by that Contracting State. Except as provided by paragraph (2) such remuneration derived from sources within the other Contracting State may also be taxed by that other Contracting State.
(2) Remuneration described in paragraph (1) derived by an individual who is a resident of one of the
Contracting States shall be exempt from tax by the other Contracting State if--
(a) He is present in that other Contracting State for a period or periods aggregating less than 183 days in the taxable year;
(b) He is an employee of a resident of the first-mentioned Contracting State or of a permanent establishment maintained in the first-mentioned Contracting State;
(c) The remuneration is not borne as such by a permanent establishment which the employer has in that other Contracting State; and
(d) Such income does not exceed 3,000 United States dollars or its equivalent in Korean won.
(3)Notwithstanding paragraph (2), remuneration derived by an individual from the performance of labor or personal services as an employee aboard ships or aircraft operated by a resident of one of the Contracting States in international traffic shall be exempt from tax by the other Contracting State if such individual is a member of the regular complement of the ship or aircraft."
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Old 9th Jan 2010, 02:56
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US pilots have a tax agreement with Korea and are not subject to income tax to the US

Wrong.

US citizens are subject to US tax whether they earn their money in Korea or on one of Jupiter's moons. It is one of the few nations that taxes on the basis of citizenship rather than residency.
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Old 9th Jan 2010, 11:16
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Wrong again. The agency pays the taxes.....the money you get from the agency is your pocket change.
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Old 9th Jan 2010, 13:50
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Whether the agency pays the taxes or not does not exempt you from filing a return with the IRS. That is still required.

As I'm not there, it would be interesting to know how the agency pays your taxes at the applicable rate.
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Old 9th Jan 2010, 14:00
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The agency pays the Korean taxes.
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Old 9th Jan 2010, 14:24
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Well that all sounds nice and clear cut tax wise!
Just for your consideration....Years ago in G.F. my new F/O... a former expat. Korean Airlines contract Captain...
said he was well pleased to have left them...and he was never going back.
This F/O was an excellent pilot and a total gentleman..his main concern he said was safety.
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Old 31st Jan 2010, 18:06
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Question Just curious

Did anyone attend the interview with KAL in Alain? How was it?
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 18:37
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Is this open day for real or just another rumor?
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