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Makes ya wonder...I thought those Brit public schools were supposed to be all that, wot?
To the subject at hand, if you're going to join as a local how about actually showing up for a night turnaround to India? Getting tired of callouts to cover for the dishdash who just can't do the BLR turns. Funny how I always seem to be paired with another expat on reserve who was called out to cover for his own Al Whomever counterpart. Why even bother rostering locals for those flights? But then if I had laws that prevented me from being sacked no matter how many times I declined the tougher flights I probably would too. I just wouldn't expect to be held in high esteem by my peers.
Respect is earned. Period.
To the subject at hand, if you're going to join as a local how about actually showing up for a night turnaround to India? Getting tired of callouts to cover for the dishdash who just can't do the BLR turns. Funny how I always seem to be paired with another expat on reserve who was called out to cover for his own Al Whomever counterpart. Why even bother rostering locals for those flights? But then if I had laws that prevented me from being sacked no matter how many times I declined the tougher flights I probably would too. I just wouldn't expect to be held in high esteem by my peers.
Respect is earned. Period.
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I have to agree with you guys with the point that respect is earned not given....
I'm sure there are a few locals who do their status quo when flying the India turnarounds...
I do agree that the locals are living in a welfare state where they would pretty much reach a point where the locals won't work and the government just stuffs them with their salaries while they are at home....
You can't change such mentalities if they were engraved in their heads to behave like this...
So in a way I don't take it against them in their behaviour, as this is how they behave and what they are used to even though its a pain
My 2 cents really....
I'm sure there are a few locals who do their status quo when flying the India turnarounds...
I do agree that the locals are living in a welfare state where they would pretty much reach a point where the locals won't work and the government just stuffs them with their salaries while they are at home....
You can't change such mentalities if they were engraved in their heads to behave like this...
So in a way I don't take it against them in their behaviour, as this is how they behave and what they are used to even though its a pain
My 2 cents really....
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if you're going to join as a local how about actually showing up for a night turnaround to India? Getting tired of callouts to cover for the dishdash who just can't do the BLR turns. Funny how I always seem to be paired with another expat on reserve who was called out to cover for his own
"Alas, would that it be so, Sire, but no. We must taketh unto ourselves foreign effohs as well, for as Thy caravan groweth, Thou willst needith more cameleers than Thou canst find among Thy own young warriors."
The Cherif held his hands aloft for silence, for such had not been his plan at all. "Why beist this so?"
"Ahh, Sire, because the autocamels willst walketh the caravan routes all through the longlunchbreak and night as well."
"Through the longlunchbreak?" The Cherif hadn't considered that. Very few Knoteetinghammi warriors would work through the longlunchbreak.
"Yea, Sire. And on feast and holy days as well."
The courtiers muttered among themselves at this startling news. The caravans wouldst continue to walketh through the longlunchbreak, at night and on feast and holy days? Their sons wouldst taketh some convincing before they'd want a slice of that cake, boyo.
The Cherif held his hands aloft for silence, for such had not been his plan at all. "Why beist this so?"
"Ahh, Sire, because the autocamels willst walketh the caravan routes all through the longlunchbreak and night as well."
"Through the longlunchbreak?" The Cherif hadn't considered that. Very few Knoteetinghammi warriors would work through the longlunchbreak.
"Yea, Sire. And on feast and holy days as well."
The courtiers muttered among themselves at this startling news. The caravans wouldst continue to walketh through the longlunchbreak, at night and on feast and holy days? Their sons wouldst taketh some convincing before they'd want a slice of that cake, boyo.
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The reason I'm asking is that I'm a British citizen, but I'm eligible for UAE citizenship through my father
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Yes Mike, you are correct on that, I haven't decided on my decision yet whether to give up the UK citizenship or not. I'm just studyging my options.
There are some very good pros for this giving up my UK citizenship, other than the perks, my immediate family are all in the UAE now, so I'm alone in London in terms of relatives, other than the crazy aunt/uncles
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But I its an irrevecoable decision, thats why I what to study my options before I make the decision to do it..
There are some very good pros for this giving up my UK citizenship, other than the perks, my immediate family are all in the UAE now, so I'm alone in London in terms of relatives, other than the crazy aunt/uncles
....But I its an irrevecoable decision, thats why I what to study my options before I make the decision to do it..
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If the Emirati pilots get any extra allowances at EK, I presume this to compensate them for being the ( underdogs ) in this company behind the australians.southafricans and brits bosses,w'ont you agree.
You an always rely on Intaomri to pitch in with a really chippy post. The poor bloke is a washed up and incompetent fool and now a member of the QR management 'team' for which he is suitably qualified. Boasting about his (dubious) past, plagiarising others material and shamelessly claiming it as his own are his best attributes. Keep up the good work.
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Yeah, I re-read my post and I can certainly see how it came across rather harsh.... not exactly what I intended. But then again, I have noticed a decline in the usually high standards of local cadets. Years ago, I never flew with a cadet who didn't know the books, inside and out. They took pride in doing the job to the best of their abilities and considering their experience levels, they did a great job.
Nowadays, I get cadets on 'observation' flights, who don't seem to give a damn about taking advantage of learning things prior to their PNF phase. Not all cadets, just some...... but in the past, there were NONE who sat there bored, reading a newspaper instead of observing and asking questions.
Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems that some recent cadets feel it is their 'right' and not a 'privilege' to be a cadet pilot for Emirates.
Attitude plays a huge role in how effective a pilot is, and in spite of a massive lack of experience for some people, their attitude and work ethic overcame this disadvantage.
I have always respected the Cadets at EK, simply because they took advantage of the opportunity and they worked hard. I fear there has been a shift in this attitude of late and that could spell disaster in the future.
Sorry Muppet, I do apologize for being sarcastic. I should never lump people together and I admit I assumed you were someone who simply wanted to take advantage of the situation, without making the required effort.
It is a great opportunity, you should take advantage of it, but there comes a responsibility as well. This is not a job to take lightly in most respects.
Nowadays, I get cadets on 'observation' flights, who don't seem to give a damn about taking advantage of learning things prior to their PNF phase. Not all cadets, just some...... but in the past, there were NONE who sat there bored, reading a newspaper instead of observing and asking questions.
Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems that some recent cadets feel it is their 'right' and not a 'privilege' to be a cadet pilot for Emirates.
Attitude plays a huge role in how effective a pilot is, and in spite of a massive lack of experience for some people, their attitude and work ethic overcame this disadvantage.
I have always respected the Cadets at EK, simply because they took advantage of the opportunity and they worked hard. I fear there has been a shift in this attitude of late and that could spell disaster in the future.
Sorry Muppet, I do apologize for being sarcastic. I should never lump people together and I admit I assumed you were someone who simply wanted to take advantage of the situation, without making the required effort.
It is a great opportunity, you should take advantage of it, but there comes a responsibility as well. This is not a job to take lightly in most respects.
