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Old 16th Sep 2009, 17:43
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EGGW...

Fairly long winded but here you are (assume you know the prayers at which fasting begins and ends? I can never remember if it begins at Fajr or Shuruq prayer but def ends at Maghrib.) Anyway this is copied from one of the Muslim Council websites though different council's may have different opinions.

The regions at high latitudes are divided into three zones:

A. The first zone: It is the region that lies between the latitudes of 45 degrees and 48 degrees north and south. It is characterized by the existence of the apparent signs of the time during twenty-four hours, no matter whether the times are long or short.
B.The second zone: It lies between the latitudes of 48 degrees and 66 degrees north and south, where some of the astronomical signs of time are nonexistent for a number of days during the year, as, for example, the case when the twilight does not disappear to indicate the beginning of `Isha’, and thus the end of the Maghrib time trails till it overlaps Fajr.
C. The third zone: It lies at the latitude of 66 degrees north and south and extends to the two poles. In this zone the apparent signs indicating the time are nonexistent for a long period of the year both by day and at night.

The ruling for the first zone is that its people observe the Prayers at their Shar`i times, and observe fasting for its Shar`i time, from true dawn till sunset, in compliance with the Shar`i texts indicating the times for Prayers and fasting; and if someone is unable to fast or complete his fast on a certain day because of its excessive length, he or she may break his or her fast on that day and compensate for it on some other suitable day.

The ruling for the second zone is that the times for `Isha’ and Fajr Prayers are to be determined with the proportional measurement on the analogy of the corresponding times in the night of the closest region where the signs of the times of `Isha’ and Fajr can be distinguished. The Council of the Academy suggests the latitude of 45 degrees as the closest region where worshiping or recognition is comfortably possible. If `Isha’ begins after the third part of the night at 45 degrees latitude, `Isha’ will start similarly in respect to the night at the place where the time is to be determined [i.e., after the third part of the night], and the same is true regarding Fajr.

The ruling for the third zone is that all the times are calculated with the proportional measurement in analogy of the corresponding times at 45 degrees latitude, by dividing the 24 hours in the third zone in the same way the times are divided at 45 degrees latitude.

If the length of the night at 45 degrees latitude is 8 hours and the sun sets at 8 o’clock, and `Isha’ is at 11 o’clock, the same times will be observed in the country where the time is to be determined. If the time of Fajr at 45 degrees latitude is 2 a.m., Fajr in the country where the time is to be determined will be at 2 a.m. and fasting will begin at that time and continue up to the estimated time of Maghrib.


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Old 16th Sep 2009, 18:57
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If this issue would have been included in the Holy Koran, I would have been very impressed by that book...
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Old 16th Sep 2009, 20:05
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Sorry I should have also quoted the source more thoroughly, fatwa was issued by the "European Council for Fatwa and Research"
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muslim astronauts should do whilst orbiting the Earth

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For you it is called The Holy Koran "Quran".
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To A380

Are you trying to be funny or you are just an idiot. We dont agree on many issues but you dont see a single muslim slagging your practices.
And to answer your silly question. if the individual feels abled to fast during travelling then he should fast but if he thinks he is unable then he should be fasting on any later day after Ramadan.So the Muslim Astrnot will be fasting missing days once he gets back to mother Earth after Ramadan.
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"Have there been any muslim astronauts"..:

Well this gentleman might be a candidate:

Al-Saud

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Dear Moderator,

Please kindly lock this topic, since you know this topic appears every year and couple of immature people start posting their comments which is very insulting and humilating. I am a Muslim and its upsetting to see people making comments that whether a Muslim should fast or not. Talking about Muslims in insulting manner is not acceptable and that has nothing to do wth the topic also, I think its no one's right to comment on it. I hope you do understand and please kindly lock this topic.

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I asked a serious question, unfortunately the muppets decided to behave like imbeciles.

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".................but you dont see a single muslim slagging your practices."

No of course we don't but we do see the results when several get together and show the world their displeasure.
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Fssting on Duty

I have a high respect to those who are fasting during the holy month of Ramadan.
Go ahead and do whatever you want!
But don´t do that during your flight duty!!!
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And yet after 1430 years of fasting, neither a single aviation nor any incident involves fasting!! as Allah said in the Holly Quran:

إِنَّا نَحۡنُ نَزَّلۡنَا ٱلذِّكۡرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ ۥ لَحَـٰفِظُونَ (٩)</SPAN>””Lo! We, even We, reveal the Reminder, and lo! We verily are its Guardian. (Al Hajr (9)….

Also,

يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ كُتِبَ عَلَيۡڪُمُ ٱلصِّيَامُ كَمَا كُتِبَ عَلَى ٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبۡلِڪُمۡ لَعَلَّكُمۡ تَتَّقُونَ (١٨٣)أَيَّامً۬ا مَّعۡدُودَٲتٍ۬*ۚ فَمَن كَانَ مِنكُم مَّرِيضًا أَوۡ عَلَىٰ سَفَرٍ۬ فَعِدَّةٌ۬ مِّنۡ أَيَّامٍ أُخَرَ*ۚ وَعَلَى ٱلَّذِينَ يُطِيقُونَهُ ۥ فِدۡيَةٌ۬ طَعَامُ مِسۡكِينٍ۬*ۖ فَمَن تَطَوَّعَ خَيۡرً۬ا فَهُوَ خَيۡرٌ۬ لَّهُ ۥ*ۚ وَأَن تَصُومُواْ خَيۡرٌ۬ لَّڪُمۡ*ۖ إِن كُنتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُونَ (١٨٤)شَہۡرُ رَمَضَانَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ فِيهِ ٱلۡقُرۡءَانُ هُدً۬ى لِّلنَّاسِ وَبَيِّنَـٰتٍ۬ مِّنَ ٱلۡهُدَىٰ وَٱلۡفُرۡقَانِ*ۚ فَمَن شَہِدَ مِنكُمُ ٱلشَّہۡرَ فَلۡيَصُمۡهُ*ۖ وَمَن ڪَانَ مَرِيضًا أَوۡ عَلَىٰ سَفَرٍ۬ فَعِدَّةٌ۬ مِّنۡ أَيَّامٍ أُخَرَ*ۗ يُرِيدُ ٱللَّهُ بِڪُمُ ٱلۡيُسۡرَ وَلَا يُرِيدُ بِڪُمُ ٱلۡعُسۡرَ وَلِتُڪۡمِلُواْ ٱلۡعِدَّةَ وَلِتُڪَبِّرُواْ ٱللَّهَ عَلَىٰ مَا هَدَٮٰكُمۡ وَلَعَلَّڪُمۡ تَشۡكُرُونَ (١٨٥)
O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed for you, even as it was prescribed for those before you, that ye may ward off (evil); (183) (Fast) a certain number of days; and (for) him who is sick among you, or on a journey, (the same) number of other days; and for those who can afford it there is a ransom: the feeding of a man in need - but whoso doeth good of his own accord, it is better for him: and that ye fast is better for you if ye did but know - (184) The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for mankind, and clear proofs of the guidance, and the Criterion (of right and wrong). And whosoever of you is present, let him fast the month, and whosoever of you is sick or on a journey, (let him fast the same) number of other days. Allah desireth for you ease; He desireth not hardship for you; and (He desireth) that ye should complete the period, and that ye should magnify Allah for having guided you, and that peradventure ye may be thankful. (185). (Al Baqara.)
I fly long haul high altitude and 30+ years fasting
''Eid Mubarak'' to all
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A380 say has there been muslim astronaut?

A380 , pls read this:

Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And read this:
Spaceflight and religion

Since Sheikh Muszaphar is a Muslim, and as his time in space coincided with the last part of Ramadan, the Islamic National Fatwa Council drew up the first comprehensive guidebook for Muslims in space.[1][3] The 18-page guidebook is titled "Guidelines for Performing Islamic Rites (Ibadah) at the International Space Station", and details issues such as how to pray in a low-gravity environment, how to locate Mecca from the ISS, how to determine prayer times, and issues surrounding fasting. The orbit of the ISS results in one day/night cycle every 90 minutes,[1][25] so the issues of fasting during Ramadan are also addressed. The guidebook will be translated into Russian, Arabic, and English.[7][26] Anan C. Mohd, from Malaysia's Department of Islamic Development said that fasting while traveling is optional, so Sheikh Muszaphar could choose what he would like to do, but if he did decide to fast in space, the times would be centered around local time in Baikonur, where the launch takes place.[27][28] Sheikh Muszaphar celebrated Eid ul-Fitr aboard the station, and packed some satay and cookies to hand out to the rest of the crew on October 13, 2007 to mark the end of Ramadan.[29]


Please learn to respect other people's religion.
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