BA DECs coming to Emirates
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BA DECs coming to Emirates
Have heard through the jungle drums that between 10 to 20 ex BA Captains are on there way to Emirates as DECs for the B777, if true another great example of man management from those in the ivory towers.
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SQ did the same, many years ago.
However, it didn't work out so well...as the ex-BA guys found out that they actually were expected to work for the salary offered.
After about 18 months, they had all disappeared.
However, it didn't work out so well...as the ex-BA guys found out that they actually were expected to work for the salary offered.
After about 18 months, they had all disappeared.
Don't often agree with 411A but I think they may find the work a little bit on the busy side and you can't take your golf clubs on trips any more.
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411A That may well have been the case in 707 days at SQ but when London basings came up on the B744 the BA guys were trampling over each other to join Cannot quite see the same happening at EK as I guess 55 is no longer compulsory retirement age at BA and one has to be based in Dubai.
Cannot quite see the same happening at EK as I guess 55 is no longer compulsory retirement age at BA and one has to be based in Dubai.
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Gents
No parking planned, otherise I would know. Got a mail from a recruiter that a ME carrier is looking for certifying engineers on A330/340/380 and B777.
Does we have a problem here ?
With starting of 15K do NOT expect the best
DEC ? I think the crisis is over. Who will come and join a 3rd world airline ?
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No parking planned, otherise I would know. Got a mail from a recruiter that a ME carrier is looking for certifying engineers on A330/340/380 and B777.
Does we have a problem here ?
With starting of 15K do NOT expect the best
DEC ? I think the crisis is over. Who will come and join a 3rd world airline ?
Rgds
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It IS possible that there might be BA DECS coming , quite a lot of senior captains applied for 'early retirement ' when Willie Walsh offered it the other day . Nice goodbye package and a possible offer of EK employment at the same time ? Spend 3 years out of the UK tax system...etc etc.........
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Not a rumour this time guys. Just got the same info as Gardenshed did during my SEP a few days ago from one ground instructor. That will be three groups with 8 decs each. According to the new FCI, hiring decs now is at their discretion, despite havig suitable qualified FOs or not.
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Same DEC.... 12 BA pilots retired at age 55 and index linked pensions and also one ex Cathay Captain was attempted for the L1011 at GF...caused many resignation amongst the expat F/o and adverse comments from GF Captains... thus BA DEC Captains were informed they could stay only as F/O on their second day in Bahrain and around five did...however like 411A said they did not hang around very long.
Cathay Captain was failed in the GF sim and he later intern failed the GF man who failed him...as he was now incharge at Air Lanka.
Just another failure old boy.
I was suprised to see these 12 BA Captains for the first time at my L1011 SEP recheck complete in GF uniforms and wearing GF four gold bars
and being paid 12 year GF salery increments...do not expect these BA guys to join on year one Captains salery...also check out if any golden inducements have been paid or promised...anyway it was stopped in GF.
Cathay Captain was failed in the GF sim and he later intern failed the GF man who failed him...as he was now incharge at Air Lanka.
Just another failure old boy.
I was suprised to see these 12 BA Captains for the first time at my L1011 SEP recheck complete in GF uniforms and wearing GF four gold bars
and being paid 12 year GF salery increments...do not expect these BA guys to join on year one Captains salery...also check out if any golden inducements have been paid or promised...anyway it was stopped in GF.
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Who cares? Bring them on Cletus!
Only three groups of eight??? Why stop there?
Resuming the recruitment of DEC's, at their discretion, is this airline's right. Forget that there are qualified in-house canditates, and forget that any shortage of in-house upgrade material has been conveniently manufactured to create justification for such a move.
As things stand, this has little impact on individuals already set to wait 5-7 years for command. Furthermore, the airline doesn't care if anyone leaves in a huff after their contract expires. In fact, the longer a guy waits for upgrade, the higher his salary when he crosses over. That's an excellent reason to be encouraging senior FOs to pack it in while there is a plentiful supply of qualified guys begging to take their seats.
The FOs who feel duped by recruiting and the subsequent FCI changes are merely playing their role of occupying seats while the airline goes about its long term plans. Things were tough on the hiring side, now it's Fat City with guys like this supposed BA Bunch looking for a nice little top off before flying west (for retirement).
Hopefully they'll transition nicely and do their job without much disruption in the ranks. The right seaters in this airline need to clearly understand their role in the EK scheme of things, and stop trying to think management cares one bit about fairness, loyalty, seniority, or their personal sense of professional merit.
This is all about the almighty Dirham, and no amount of indignation will change the airline's plans, whatever they may be.
ANFA
Resuming the recruitment of DEC's, at their discretion, is this airline's right. Forget that there are qualified in-house canditates, and forget that any shortage of in-house upgrade material has been conveniently manufactured to create justification for such a move.
As things stand, this has little impact on individuals already set to wait 5-7 years for command. Furthermore, the airline doesn't care if anyone leaves in a huff after their contract expires. In fact, the longer a guy waits for upgrade, the higher his salary when he crosses over. That's an excellent reason to be encouraging senior FOs to pack it in while there is a plentiful supply of qualified guys begging to take their seats.
The FOs who feel duped by recruiting and the subsequent FCI changes are merely playing their role of occupying seats while the airline goes about its long term plans. Things were tough on the hiring side, now it's Fat City with guys like this supposed BA Bunch looking for a nice little top off before flying west (for retirement).
Hopefully they'll transition nicely and do their job without much disruption in the ranks. The right seaters in this airline need to clearly understand their role in the EK scheme of things, and stop trying to think management cares one bit about fairness, loyalty, seniority, or their personal sense of professional merit.
This is all about the almighty Dirham, and no amount of indignation will change the airline's plans, whatever they may be.
ANFA
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Have some sympathy for the poor buggers if they come to EK. They'll have to unlearn the BA "pilot-flying-not-flying-but-sometimes-manipulating-and-sometimes-not-manipulating-all-in-one-sector" system to learn - word perfect - the EK way of doing exactly the same thing.
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of course they are coming, that was planned for a long time, stealys old boys club, retire early from BA, join emirates, play golf, get BA pension plus EK salary and will finally retire on the biggest airplane in the world.