Emirates Utilities Cap
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The current economic climate does warrant that we take the necessary steps to manage down the DEWA costs
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The reply I received from HR included a reference to how many positive changes there have been over my time in the company, basically intimating that I should not be annoyed over this one small negative change. What are those idiots smoking in their offices?
Brace yourselves boys, the door is open, the contract is breached and the really painful screwing can now begin.
What a crock!!
Brace yourselves boys, the door is open, the contract is breached and the really painful screwing can now begin.
What a crock!!
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One would hope that in their quest to lower operating costs management take the the next logical step....DECENTRALIZE THEIR WORKFORCE !
.....would help the environment as well. I could practise my dirty habits in my home country
.....would help the environment as well. I could practise my dirty habits in my home country
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The cap of Dhs 21,600 was set in order to cover more than the average consumption, this cap only impacts 34% of staff in company provided villas (i.e. 66% of the workforce or approx 1,100 employees are currently below this cap).
Of those poled thus far in DSO, only 34% are below the cap!
56% are between AED 21 600 and AED 30 000, with 12% over AED 30 000!
Average, what average?
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An interesting observation on water conservation yesterday. A A330 was being washed next to us on the apron. Two rather large water trucks with water hoses and a few chaps with large brushes scrubbing away. Watched this scenario for 57 min. Water never turned off, just pouring down the drain. Didn't seem very green to me 
They have probably used my years consumption of water in one day. Multiply that by 130 aeroplanes, makes the DEWA bill look rather small. Then again, they probably don't pay for that water. Now, where do you apply for the Najm (?) award
They have probably used my years consumption of water in one day. Multiply that by 130 aeroplanes, makes the DEWA bill look rather small. Then again, they probably don't pay for that water. Now, where do you apply for the Najm (?) award
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I think you will find youe water portion avery small % of the total, AC is the big drain. Not to many guys will try to cool the outdoor area's anymore. we are under for last year and water was only 2000 / year, 2 kids, no pool ,no maid, no washing cars everyday-you get the picture
fatbus,
Not at my place....it's the water that is the big cost item, except on summer when the AC almost matches it. I've a large yard. So now, the green yard will be going brown as I'm turning the water off. That will look so nice
Not at my place....it's the water that is the big cost item, except on summer when the AC almost matches it. I've a large yard. So now, the green yard will be going brown as I'm turning the water off. That will look so nice
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You guys may want to check with your lessor about allowing the garden die. A friend (not at EK) couldn't face paying the water bill again after last summer and elected to let the garden go. He received an interesting letter from the lessor's agent pointing out that he was responsible for the upkeep of the garden, and that if he let it die, would be required to replace said garden. Now he's doing the maths.
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I have heard rumours that EK will not be paying DEWA bills for pilots in the near future? Is this correct and if so when will it be implemented, or is it been discussed? - Question Posted on 31st May 2008
Emirates pay DEWA bills for all employees in Company Provided Accommodation and there are no plans at present for this to change. This rumour may have been triggered by a recent survey of employees on environmental issues, which asked if employees would favour education of the employees in Company Accommodation in order to reduce water and electricity consumption, or whether employees would favour limits imposed to prevent excessive consumption. There are a small number of employees in Company Accommodation who do use excessive amounts of water and electricity, usually due to installation of unauthorised home improvements and the Company may consider ways in future to manage this, in order to protect this valuable benefit for other employees. --- Helena White - HRM(OPS) - System Account
So much for the truth they are telling...
Emirates pay DEWA bills for all employees in Company Provided Accommodation and there are no plans at present for this to change. This rumour may have been triggered by a recent survey of employees on environmental issues, which asked if employees would favour education of the employees in Company Accommodation in order to reduce water and electricity consumption, or whether employees would favour limits imposed to prevent excessive consumption. There are a small number of employees in Company Accommodation who do use excessive amounts of water and electricity, usually due to installation of unauthorised home improvements and the Company may consider ways in future to manage this, in order to protect this valuable benefit for other employees. --- Helena White - HRM(OPS) - System Account
So much for the truth they are telling...
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actual financial year
Maybe my English is not quite good but am I wrong or what states in the letter we got in our box is that for the actual financial year the cap is 18000 and next financial year will be 21600?????
Other question, in my contract (i suppose for the others is the same) states that the company "will pay rent, tax, all relevant cooking gas, electricity and water charges".
What about enquiring a lawyer to see if it is legal to do what they decided to do???
Other question, in my contract (i suppose for the others is the same) states that the company "will pay rent, tax, all relevant cooking gas, electricity and water charges".
What about enquiring a lawyer to see if it is legal to do what they decided to do???
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I'm sure the EK lawyer will have a wonderful day at the office ! The only word that has to be debated is relevant! Try to think like a lawyer... You, the EK pilot will be sh@fted once again. Hand me another six-pack - of vaseline this time please...
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Well I know what it says and I know what I exptected when I signed the paperwork.
In the absence of the company explaining any general exclusions at the interview/briefing stage, to me relevant means all gas used for cooking, all water used for general living requirements (cooking/washing/cleaning/garden & villa maintenance) and similar for electricity.
This was a major part of the recruitment campaign and hence, a major part of the attraction.
The company's actions demean and belittle them and they are lesser people for it
In the absence of the company explaining any general exclusions at the interview/briefing stage, to me relevant means all gas used for cooking, all water used for general living requirements (cooking/washing/cleaning/garden & villa maintenance) and similar for electricity.
This was a major part of the recruitment campaign and hence, a major part of the attraction.
The company's actions demean and belittle them and they are lesser people for it
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ekpilot,
My contract says
When I was last at school the use of the comma after gas indicated that "all relevant cooking" only applies to gas and not electricity and water. This was in fact how Emirates itself interpreted it, with one having to pay for BBQ gas for example, before the latest profit discovery scheme.
I take your point however that Lawyers could try to argue differently, but there is also the little matter of precedent which has been well established in this matter.
Their latest tactic in this grubby battle is to simply ignore any communication on the matter so maybe they are not too sure of their own legal position.
My contract says
The Company will pay rent, tax, all relevant cooking gas, electricity and water charges.
I take your point however that Lawyers could try to argue differently, but there is also the little matter of precedent which has been well established in this matter.
Their latest tactic in this grubby battle is to simply ignore any communication on the matter so maybe they are not too sure of their own legal position.
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Sorry Aircav, but when I was at school, that pesky word applied to all, and I think you'll find most teachers of English will agree with me. The comma's just a separator that is left out when an 'and' is used between the second last and last nouns in a list. They're going to get you on that all too relevant 'relevant' word.
Trying to step back from the understandable emotions this measure has aroused, the sad fact is that we, 'The Group' have collectively been punished for the actions of a few, those unthinking bastards who have the housemaid hose out the whole yard every morning, leave every light inside and outside the house burning 24 hours a day, run the aircon at 20 degrees while leaving the doors open and while they're on leave, have installed a decorative fountain and change their swimming pool water every time it strikes their fancy.
Trying to step back from the understandable emotions this measure has aroused, the sad fact is that we, 'The Group' have collectively been punished for the actions of a few, those unthinking bastards who have the housemaid hose out the whole yard every morning, leave every light inside and outside the house burning 24 hours a day, run the aircon at 20 degrees while leaving the doors open and while they're on leave, have installed a decorative fountain and change their swimming pool water every time it strikes their fancy.
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...the sad fact is that we, 'The Group' have collectively been punished for the actions of a few, those unthinking bastards...
If the average DEWA consumption had been lower then the Utilities Cap would have been lowered accordingly. This was going to happen regardless of how much power and water we are consuming leaving us in the same boat.
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you all think the utilities shaft is bad what about this ! just off the press
Beer taps to run dry for Molson retirees: report
REUTERS
June 09, 2009
TORONTO (Reuters) - The recession has forced some companies to cut pensions and others to curtail retiree benefits, but Molson Canada is turning off the taps in a literal sense.
The brewer will no longer supply its 2,400 retirees with free beer, which currently costs the company about C$1 million ($900,000) a year, the Toronto Star newspaper reported.
Molson, a division of Molson Coors <TAP.N>, said it was looking to cut costs and to "standardize" its complimentary beer policy.
The company's retirees in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, for example, will see their monthly allotment fall from six dozen bottles of beer a month to zero over the next five years.
Current Molson workers will still receive complimentary beer, but see their allotment drop from 72 dozen bottles a year to 52 dozen.
"There was no consultation, we just received a letter that this is a done deal, which is totally unfair," Bill Bavis, who retired six years ago after 32 years at Molson's in St. John's, Newfoundland, told the Star. "I think with the economic downturn they're trying to take advantage of us, as a way to cut retirees' benefits and justify it."
Unions have launched grievances in Montreal and Vancouver, where the retirees' allotment is less than in Newfoundland.
A spokesman for Molson said the company feels it still has a very generous benefits package.
($1=$1.10 Canadian)
Beer taps to run dry for Molson retirees: report
REUTERS
June 09, 2009
TORONTO (Reuters) - The recession has forced some companies to cut pensions and others to curtail retiree benefits, but Molson Canada is turning off the taps in a literal sense.The brewer will no longer supply its 2,400 retirees with free beer, which currently costs the company about C$1 million ($900,000) a year, the Toronto Star newspaper reported.
Molson, a division of Molson Coors <TAP.N>, said it was looking to cut costs and to "standardize" its complimentary beer policy.
The company's retirees in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, for example, will see their monthly allotment fall from six dozen bottles of beer a month to zero over the next five years.
Current Molson workers will still receive complimentary beer, but see their allotment drop from 72 dozen bottles a year to 52 dozen.
"There was no consultation, we just received a letter that this is a done deal, which is totally unfair," Bill Bavis, who retired six years ago after 32 years at Molson's in St. John's, Newfoundland, told the Star. "I think with the economic downturn they're trying to take advantage of us, as a way to cut retirees' benefits and justify it."
Unions have launched grievances in Montreal and Vancouver, where the retirees' allotment is less than in Newfoundland.
A spokesman for Molson said the company feels it still has a very generous benefits package.
($1=$1.10 Canadian)
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who do we email in human resources?
Make my house greener , reflective coating on windows, water heating pipes on flat roof and the list goes on. Make the house green , stop riding the employees backs for money , ****ers !
We should all email them with this !
Make my house greener , reflective coating on windows, water heating pipes on flat roof and the list goes on. Make the house green , stop riding the employees backs for money , ****ers !
We should all email them with this !