B200Drvr

I am looking for a contact currently working for NJME that can give me all the updated info regarding flying on the Hawker fleet.
PM me if you dont want to post it.
Thanks

B200Drvr

Anybody know anybody working for NJME that can help me out??

dezetrat

NAS really does not have enough pilots at this time and Managment is doing thier best to piss off those who are still there.
Many expats have left this year and very little effort has been made to replace them.
More will leave very soon if nothing is done, NAS seems not to notice the huge demand for Pilots world wide.
The only attraction at NAS was the 35 on 31 off and now with that being removed there is no reason to stay, pilots could always earn a bit more money back home but came to NAS for the rotation / life style.

Salaries outside are now much better, so that together with worsening conditions and very unstable managment makes even the most loyal employee seriously consider thier future.

On top of this a new low cost operation to start early next year????
Recruiting seems to be at the lowest speed possible.

Pilots and cabin crew are being pushed into signing new contracts before the ink on existing contracts is dry..the main change being from 35 on 31 off to 8 weeks on 28 days off but of course the incentive for crew is the huge FIVE percent increase in base salery!

Apparently there is yet another package in the wind, I'm told it has even lower base pay.

There is also talk of 11 months on 1 month off.

Staff now have to be very pro active in order to collect per Diems I heard of some that date back nearly six months.

Crews are often stranded at the airport in Riyadh after long trips with no transport or Hotel bookings (and this is Home Base) it seems that the operations department cant/wont organize this and leave it to staff travel who do NOTHING.
very dissapointing NAS has such great potential and is perfectly placed for a bright future WAKE UP!

desertflyer

Anybody else offering month-on-month-off rotation??

mutt

Arab News article.....

NAS are to order 75 aircraft before 2010.......

Wonder who will be left to fly them

Mutt

737BBJ

When I read threads like this, my immediate reaction is that an airline is only as good as the management want it to be. And jurking around with contracts, no hotel bookings, per diems and so on can all be sampled under one word: mismanagement.

I agree that 1 months on - 1 months off is driving your life-style to a different level. All of us who have tried it would gladly work such a roster pattern. When NAS take another direction with 8 weeks on - and-what- do-I-know-off, they are only "shooting themselves in the foot". The international pilot market is screeming for pilots. Not able to, or not wanting to understand the simple fact of how the flight crew machine works, will back-fire on any management if they do not get a wake-up call. Obviously, the NAS management have not listened to the alarm clock

Earl

The Magic Kingdom.
Nothing ever changes there.
Always one step foward and two steps back.
Lots of jobs out there guys, not like a few years ago.
The Kingdom is proud to say many years of tradition (unchanged by progress).
Earl

dezetrat

Yes Net jets mid east has 35/31 and they are controlled by NAS, it appears that the netjets crews will not be asked to change.
would you like to apply?

rats

dezetrat

Another Nas airbus captain resigned last week.

A while back about six expat pilots were pushed by managment to sign for the new 8 weeks on 4 off deal, one refused and resigned immediately, the other five signed up.
I think there is only one or two of those pilots left now, seems they just could not take the 8/4 deal.

This latest resignation was by one of those pilots who signed the 8/4.

If Nas wants the remainder of the expat group to leave they are going about it the right way, I hear at least 3 more A320 pilots on on the edge!! come on Nas just push a little more.

42000ft

on the month on-month off issue...


Does anyone know any jobs for cabin attendants on a schedule similar to this?
Not Netjets ME because it is managed by NAS.

Thanks.

mutt

As an outsider, I understand that NAS was close to going broke. Their latest investors are therefore required to cut costs if they are expecting any ROI, especially if they are moving into scheduled operations.

Can anyone really expect them to maintain a month on/month off schedule?

I wouldnt be surprised if they end up with 30 days vacation per year!

Mutt

punkalouver

Here is a month on month off in Libya for DHC-8 types.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=25279

Fitter Hotel

As far as I know, the reason the last Airbus captain at NAS resigned was mainly the 8/4. They have to travel on their OFF, so if you are lucky and you get home in just 1 day, you have only 26 days left. The other reason, why this guy left was because of some stupid decisions by the management.
How ever I heard, they have applications... So good luck with the LCC (starting date in March !!!)

ukipilot

I was recently hired into the NJME program and it is growing, but here is a link to a few articles about their expansion plans, all in all, they plan on spending $2B by 2010 to buy 75 new aircraft of which will be Airbus, Hawker, and Gulfstream.

http://business.maktoob.com/company_...20051121055715

dezetrat

Update, Yet another captain has resigned from NAS in the last few days! thats 3 in two weeks, i guess that does not sound like too many unless you consider that Nas has less than twenty Airbus captains in total.

Nas has received a new airbus every month for the last 3 months and more comming.

And to top it off Pilot Recruitment seems to have stopped?

nothing like painting yourself into a corner.

Hansol

The company is ripe for the plucking, if any company was crying out to be taken over its NAS.

LGW Vulture

That's just happened. Are you suggesting another takeover?

chrislikesblue

If they are so desperate for pilots i think its time for me to apply!
Anyone can help with their contact email or telephone?
Thanks.

Fool 'n' Tameez

Interesting times at NAS. I'm guessing they'll have a different package for the new LCC airline's pilots in the same way they have different packages for NJME.

On another note. Any info on the new LCC's operations. I'm wondering, have they sourced planes yet? Have they decided on routes? What terminal are they going to be based in RUH?

SNS3Guppy

I interviewed for NAS and was offered the job, and after some more research and contemplation, turned it down.

All we need do is look past our own noses to see that the reason these employers can do what they do is because there is an unending sea of individuals who, knowing how poor the conditions are, will none the less step up to the plate and take the job anyway. Such acts undermine the pilot community as a whole...and those who do so aren't too far away from walking out themselves, muttering complaining...before someone else with stars in their eyes takes the vacated position.

Somehow the world keeps revolving, and somehow you just can't tell some people anything. Even if it's for their own good.