mutt

It all depends on your concept of poor conditions..... Try telling an Asian Captain who earns $1500 per month at home that NAS is a bad deal.... Unfortunately, airlines in the ME are learning that they cant attract westerners with their present employment packages, so rather than enhance the package, they are turning to Asian, Latin American and African countries to source their crews

Fools.... both LCC's have announced that they will fly to every airport in Saudi....... Im just wondering how much they paid their consultants to come up with that idea.

Mutt

chrislikesblue

Thank you for your concern NS3Guppy but i would prefer contacting them and make my own judgement,reading negative comments from a pilot's forum from unknown users is not a proof that an operator is not good(also what is bad for someone could be good for someone else!)
Can someone be more helpful and provide us with their contact details?

mutt

www.nasaviation.com

Chrislikesblue........ sometimes when the naysayers outweigh the others, its worth listening to their advice.....

NAS offered a super deal to crew, but as they want to transform into a LOCO carrier, they have to change their infrastructure and expenditures. That started with the removal of the Chief Executive and a slow revision to the employment terms and conditions. They will have seen that SAMA are only offering crews a housing allowance, so i expect them to follow suit.

BTW, even the Saudis pilots are resigning

Mutt

NoJoke

Chris - I did the interview for NAS in Dubai eons again and was accepted as CPT on the 319. They were offering 6 on 4 off at the time I think. I refused the job because they seemed very disorganised and the CP was quite aggressive on the interview - not a good sign for the future I thought. Got a job with another ME operator that is better. They are employing at the moment. PM if you like.

Andi_the_III

Gentlemen,

It is really interesting that this company was grwoing like no other company and suddenly, everything changed! Part of the company was sold to new investors who understand (NOTHING) about airlines. Abraj, the new investors, injected some money to the company and thought they can do everything and change the old management to a totally new one! What they have done? Not just pilots, management in all levels, workers, and even some drivers have left the company. One of their new employed consultants in a meeting recently was wondering "Why we have apllied to this LCC license?". What Abraj did is they increased the value of thier other investments in Jordan and Emirates by long term contracts with NAS and then they will get their losses in NAS by selling those other investments. Later on, they will push this company either to new idiot investors or to Saudi Stock market by changing their financial figures which is very easy for them!!!
I suggest to everyone who would apply currently in NAS to take care! It may take very long to pay you your entitelements! Ask experts!! You will soon decide to leave and search for another job!!

chrislikesblue

If they are really so desperate for pilots how come they ask lots of jet time and required type rating on one of their types as minnimum requirements for fos? (thats what i was told!)
Just curious...

mutt

chrislikesblue

A number of airlines in the ME are using automated personnel filters, so as soon as you enter that you have 1200 hours, no jet time and no A320 type rating, the system will automatically generate a PFO letter.


Mutt

B200Drvr

I am FAA 800xp rated and cant even get anyone to acknowledge receipt of my resume from NAS/ NJME. anybody got any suggestions.

LGW Vulture

They need to respond to you B200 and they have been a little slow I hear in every dep't!! If you want your CV delivered through me please PM me and I will make sure it arrives at exactly the right person. They do need FAA 800XP types - and quickly - so let me know.

Cheers LGW.

desertrats

Is it the National Autistic Society or the National Academy of Sciences? Never heard of this Airline? Google hasn't heard of it either.

Cyrano

Care to try again, or are you just trolling? Strangely when I apply a little common sense to my google search and google "NAS Saudi", every one of the links on the first page of results are to the airline. Alternatively, if you didn't know it was in Saudi Arabia, googling "NAS airline" would get you to it too. I don't think google's the one displaying a lack of insight here...

desertrats

Cyano
The fact that you took the time to be 'cute' and 'helpful' shows me that I might be wasting my time here. Ever heard of "There is no such thing as a silly question"?
"No, no, no no, don't funk wit my heart"... or my mind. - Black eyed peas.
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b. (in psychotherapy) the recognition of sources of emotional difficulty.
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ukipilot

Hello, I was recently hired as a Captain for the G-IV, here is the contact info for the 800XP:

Company: Jet Professionals, LLC
Fax Number: (201) 462-4081
Address: 114 Charles A. Lindbergh Drive
Teterboro
NEW JERSEY
07608
USA

Email: [email protected]
Web Address: www.jet-professionals.com
Company Info: We place people in corporate aviation in Temporary and Fulltime employment.
Please mention JSfirm when resoponding to this ad.

Supported Manufacturers: Various.


Job Title: Hawker 800XP Captain & Co Captain
Location: SAUDI ARABIA International International
Salary Range: Neg-Neg
Email: Bryan Maloney
Job Desc: Hawker 800XP pilots for a long term Middle East contract. This is a 35 day rotation period with 31 days off. This is a Part 91/135 operation.
Benefits: Workers Comp for temporary work, other benefits for Permanent positions.
Requirements: All pilots must be HS-125 type rated with specific experience in the 800XP. Captains are required to have 3000 total hours and Co-Captains are required to have 1500 total hours. Honeywell avionics experience preferred as well as International experience.
Travel: Must live near a Gateway Airport

E-mail Bryan Maloney at: [email protected]

I know that they need pilots bad so send him your resume ASAP.

If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me and I can answer them for you.

v1r8

(yes, I did try to search first)

Could anyone please provide me with some info about one of the following ;

1) What are the schedules like ?

2) Will they airline you back and forward to and from the EU/US (if you live there)

3) What is the pay like 1st and 2nd year F/O ?

4) Where do you pay taxes ?

Thanks in advance.
V1.

onya

See above.

MAXMEDLO

I have a friend that applied to NAS and was told to expect command upgrade within 6 months, from my research on NAS I have a feeling its all hot air, but he's asking for my advice since we go way back, and I cant really give him an opinion since the info I have is close to nothing regarding NAS insides, anybody on the inside who would care to fill me up on that subject,ie, how far they go on keeping promises, previous command training, overall performance of thier managment and the way they treat expats.

Really appreciated
MML

4HolerPoler

The concern of not enough pilots doesn't appear to be concerning them - not with their order this week for twenty Hawker 750's.

Twenty! That's a lot of drivers they'll be looking for.

Watch this space.

4HP

Defenestrator

Continuing with the positives, I'm pretty sure the hike in the payscales will make the decision to move onto greener pastures a lot harder. From what I'm told the lads are stoked with the situation.

D

Capt nino

I have an interview with NAS in the next few days. Can you give me some info about what to expect

Would also appreciate details regarding:

Contract
working condition
pay
vacation
training
schedule
general comments

Thank you

ukipilot

Hello,
Most of the details that you are looking for you will get at the interview or you should have already been given that info.

But what I can tell you is:

Contract: It is a 3 year long renewable contract
Working Conditions: Good
Pay: Depends on the fleet that you are going to
Vacation: No Vacation
Training: all done at Flight Safety, and they have an excellent training program at NAS. You will get an Indoc, followed by Recurrent checks twice a year, and annual Medaire and emergency drill training
Schedule: 35on/31off

Good Luck