Qatar A330-300 in the Grass at CDG
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Whitebrain,
maybe you should mind your own business in Dubai, trying to save the soapbubble, as it is very clear you havent got a clue what is going on here in Qatar Airways!
This guy has a bad track record, should not be flying in a left seat and was spotted on the safety office's radar screen already several times! This incident could have been avoided by the company!
Thats a fact!
maybe you should mind your own business in Dubai, trying to save the soapbubble, as it is very clear you havent got a clue what is going on here in Qatar Airways!
This guy has a bad track record, should not be flying in a left seat and was spotted on the safety office's radar screen already several times! This incident could have been avoided by the company!
Thats a fact!
Keep it calm boys, or you get time in the cooler.
And please try and use the quote function above, if you want to use part of other's posts, makes for easier reading
EGGW
And please try and use the quote function above, if you want to use part of other's posts, makes for easier reading
EGGW
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well well, I guess the guy who spotted this Captain did not spot his fellow citizen from the kangarooland when he did a hard laning in JED
maybe I don't have a clue what is going Qatar Airways, but thanks to pprune.
it seems you have a good feed of the records from the flight safety officer, I thought it was confidential information, but here again.
now how about your records, did you get any feed from your safety officer.
as for the incident, you have waited the result of the investigation before Condemning your colleague as should do a professional pilot.
maybe I don't have a clue what is going Qatar Airways, but thanks to pprune.
it seems you have a good feed of the records from the flight safety officer, I thought it was confidential information, but here again.
now how about your records, did you get any feed from your safety officer.
as for the incident, you have waited the result of the investigation before Condemning your colleague as should do a professional pilot.
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White brain,
the JED incident has been well documented here on PPRUNE, the instructor was put on suspension until the investigation cleared him and the blame was put on the training department, who should never have started experimenting with Qatari second officers on the A330 fleet in the first place!
So what does that have to do with this incident?
You claim to be a professional in aviation?
Have you ever been to CDG? If so you should know which " bretelle" we are talking about here...
Did you have a look at the pictures? Then you would know that the marks in the grass are not made by skidding sideways but where created by just rolling with a forward movement in the grass.
Both pilots where of the same North-African nationality. A WELL protected minority in this airline, known for cover up operations.
Safety office is working anonymously. Yeah right...another sign you do not have a clue how things work around here. Once a pilot builds up a reputation everyone knows about it....Safety office is just there to acknowledge the rumours
All clues are there, you just have to read in between the lines!
By the way, did you know that this crew was put on suspension as well but that both of them where called out on a flight yesterday by rostering. Guess they where not aware of the investigation and both pilots pretended there nose was bleeding so they went on the flight!
Another uninsured QR flight took to the skies....
Just happy my family was not on that one!
MAn....I stick with my first comment of my second post...problems enough for you to comment on over-there in DXB
the JED incident has been well documented here on PPRUNE, the instructor was put on suspension until the investigation cleared him and the blame was put on the training department, who should never have started experimenting with Qatari second officers on the A330 fleet in the first place!
So what does that have to do with this incident?
You claim to be a professional in aviation?
Have you ever been to CDG? If so you should know which " bretelle" we are talking about here...
Did you have a look at the pictures? Then you would know that the marks in the grass are not made by skidding sideways but where created by just rolling with a forward movement in the grass.
Both pilots where of the same North-African nationality. A WELL protected minority in this airline, known for cover up operations.
Safety office is working anonymously. Yeah right...another sign you do not have a clue how things work around here. Once a pilot builds up a reputation everyone knows about it....Safety office is just there to acknowledge the rumours
All clues are there, you just have to read in between the lines!
By the way, did you know that this crew was put on suspension as well but that both of them where called out on a flight yesterday by rostering. Guess they where not aware of the investigation and both pilots pretended there nose was bleeding so they went on the flight!
Another uninsured QR flight took to the skies....
Just happy my family was not on that one!
MAn....I stick with my first comment of my second post...problems enough for you to comment on over-there in DXB
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Connections and partisanship help, not only at QF and not only for cover-ups. In another ME big airline some very senior chap of similar origin gets to collect a new bird at the factory. Flight back with 3FOs, 2 of them girls, maybe the only ones on the fleet and very junior .... Just wonder what probabilty it takes for a computer to come up with such a roster! It's not 72 virgins, I know, but still nicely connected. 
Thinking about a conversion .....
Have a safe flight!
Thinking about a conversion .....
Have a safe flight!
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I wouldn't be surprised this will be the cowards choice from QR, is better just to fire the guys and give an example, than looking thru the training files or the person who clear him/them and see if there has been any mistakes during the training that can be improved.
Feedback or any inputs to the training in this company are "not allowed" (with indian motion in the head please), but anyways after the circus they did on january the 1st what can we expect?????
Feedback or any inputs to the training in this company are "not allowed" (with indian motion in the head please), but anyways after the circus they did on january the 1st what can we expect?????
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there has been any mistakes during the training that can be improved.
If you have a bad attitude then it is going to be bad for you.
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the JED incident has been well documented here on PPRUNE, the instructor was put on suspension until the investigation cleared him and the blame was put on the training department, who should never have started experimenting with Qatari second officers on the A330 fleet in the first place!
Yes, its more logical for a cadet to start on a 320, but a Jet is a Jet, size doesn't really matter! what really matters is the level. So recruitment team should be more strict....
Hard landings or any other incidents can happen to anyone even to a 20 000hrs Capt! but again Its easier to blame a low experiened pilot.
Did you have a look at the pictures? Then you would know that the marks in the grass are not made by skidding sideways but where created by just rolling with a forward movement in the grass.
I spoke to the crew who took the aircraft that day to CDG, yes they made it safely until the gate but said it was very slippery and could hardly see the taxiways and all covered with snow/ice. It was the day after CDG experienced heavy snow and most flights were cancelled!
You know Incidents/Accidents happens even to the best pilots in the best airlines as well, AF 340 in toronto to name 1 ....may be its easier to blame the pilots specially if they were from the "the 3rd world" isnt it??
Both pilots where of the same North-African nationality. A WELL protected minority in this airline, known for cover up operations.
This just in: Captain was demoted to F/O for six months. F/O has been fired.
shneidertrophy, I m just wondering how come this happens to a "WELL PROTECTED" minority ??
Even though no damage was found on the landing gear,and thanks god no injured people or anything. They just had to replace 2 wheels and did some inspections...It didn t cost 6M$ to company neither.... So I m just wondering who is the well protected minority these days??!!!
The FO was really unlucky to be on that situation as he was PNF on that sector, and from what I heard it was his 1st flight after release on the fleet.
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Sounds to me like the F/O's a scapegoat (about right for 'goat' airways
) for a deeper seated problem at QR.....
AF the best pilots
That gave me a laugh
) for a deeper seated problem at QR.....AF the best pilots
That gave me a laugh
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AF the best pilots That gave me a laugh
It was the case to any other major airlines like BA, AA...etc AF was just an example...
Happy landings
