return of the silverback
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I guess it's these overlaps that would create efficiency but where would the hub be? It would make sense for DXB, now with T3 and 4 on the way, to be the hub (Pending Jebel Ali) whilst AUH hosts other carriers?
Eithad being the 'national' airline might have the clout to get more destinations than EK...
Not knowing.
Eithad being the 'national' airline might have the clout to get more destinations than EK...
Not knowing.
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From: Gagged in the back of a tinted 4x4
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From: "como todo buen piloto... mujeriego y borracho"
Back to your original question.
So far, I've seen 3 different scenarios on seniority when two companies merge.
1) List is unified by Date of Hire. In my humble opinion, the fairest scenario, although inevitably people on both sides are unhappy (Captains returning to the right seat and the big fish in the small pond being fish in a big lake).
2) Winner takes all. The pilots of the "acquired" company go to the bottom of the seniority list. Losers very unhappy. This happened when American aquired TWA. Should not be a major factor, mind you, in the event of an EK/EY merger since seniority doesn't really decide who flies the left or right seat.
3) A 2:1 type of merging scenario-- where the pilots of the victor company get two seniority places for every one of the "losing" company. Again, people unhappy from both teams. This is what happened when Air Canada acquired Canadian Airlines.
Overall, combining workforces has never been a smooth an happy situation in any airline merger.
So far, I've seen 3 different scenarios on seniority when two companies merge.
1) List is unified by Date of Hire. In my humble opinion, the fairest scenario, although inevitably people on both sides are unhappy (Captains returning to the right seat and the big fish in the small pond being fish in a big lake).
2) Winner takes all. The pilots of the "acquired" company go to the bottom of the seniority list. Losers very unhappy. This happened when American aquired TWA. Should not be a major factor, mind you, in the event of an EK/EY merger since seniority doesn't really decide who flies the left or right seat.
3) A 2:1 type of merging scenario-- where the pilots of the victor company get two seniority places for every one of the "losing" company. Again, people unhappy from both teams. This is what happened when Air Canada acquired Canadian Airlines.
Overall, combining workforces has never been a smooth an happy situation in any airline merger.
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20%...
This makes it a bit more intriguing as Etihad would then no longer compete with EK as it is not in their interest to do so. It could help start a new relationship of cooperation, probably better than a full blown take over bid which could be very divisive... As an interim measure it could test the water for a closer link up in the future...
This makes it a bit more intriguing as Etihad would then no longer compete with EK as it is not in their interest to do so. It could help start a new relationship of cooperation, probably better than a full blown take over bid which could be very divisive... As an interim measure it could test the water for a closer link up in the future...
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From: "como todo buen piloto... mujeriego y borracho"
If the rumours are true, then just a couple of questions on this matter.
1) I thought Emirates was a profitable airline (if you believe all the financial reports and newspaper articles). What happened?
2) How will this affect start-up plans for Fly Dubai?
1) I thought Emirates was a profitable airline (if you believe all the financial reports and newspaper articles). What happened?
2) How will this affect start-up plans for Fly Dubai?
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From: pit
1) I thought Emirates was a profitable airline (if you believe all the financial reports and newspaper articles). What happened?
2) How will this affect start-up plans for Fly Dubai?
2) How will this affect start-up plans for Fly Dubai?
2. Most probalby stalling or considerably slowing this start.
