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Hi guys,
Heard a rumor that they will send people on EMB course soon
, and as i've heard some FO's selected are expats from the bottom of seniority list
, currently flying 320s.
So get ready
.
Cheers.
Heard a rumor that they will send people on EMB course soon
, and as i've heard some FO's selected are expats from the bottom of seniority list, currently flying 320s.So get ready
.Cheers.
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Mr Shirley, i guess they are tired of loosing people with experience, so the new tendency for FOs is to start from the bottom. As so far no upgrades are planned on JungleJet.
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They are currently short of 330/340 FO's and fat on 320 FO's. Plus why would they send senior people to EMB school if they are not getting as many a/c as originally planned. The troubling part of the rumor (if it's true) is that it looks like they are going to take FO's from the middle of the 320 seniority list and not from the bottom as they should.
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heard the same. how will they office guys try to convinve us all that seniority rules if they do this??? actually i want them to send the new locals would be funny to see.
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shovelhead,i dont think its targeted towards the expats,the top of the seniority list just happens to be expats..expats+locals we r all the same! they are losing pilots from different nationalities..decs will have a more profound effect on the captains on all fleets..they will get decs thats for sure..local a320 pilots are from now not flying on their days off+leave..the message was texed to everyone 3days ago i think..
happy turnarounds!
happy turnarounds!
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hello chaps,
it goes without saying to leave gulf with your dignity. or whats left of it.
From personal experience i can tell you flying to JFK is much more refreshing than flying to baghdad or dhaka.
it goes without saying to leave gulf with your dignity. or whats left of it.
From personal experience i can tell you flying to JFK is much more refreshing than flying to baghdad or dhaka.
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well that just about sums it all for gf. well said, finalcall.
i foresee very bad things happening to this airline.
the fact that a lot of experience have been retired along with a lot of good people in the company, whoever is left has got to be desperate or unemployable elsewhere.
do yourself a favour and leave this failing airline or be caught up with a lot of dirty local politics as the remainders hustle for power and position. the way things are going, gf is fast becoming like iran air of worse, aseman or sudan air.
i foresee very bad things happening to this airline.
the fact that a lot of experience have been retired along with a lot of good people in the company, whoever is left has got to be desperate or unemployable elsewhere.
do yourself a favour and leave this failing airline or be caught up with a lot of dirty local politics as the remainders hustle for power and position. the way things are going, gf is fast becoming like iran air of worse, aseman or sudan air.
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Well there is another rumor that the CP wants GF to get a couple of 777s & operate to the states!
Here we go again!?
brassplate, a quick question. When did you manage to plot your escape from GF?
Here we go again!?
brassplate, a quick question. When did you manage to plot your escape from GF?
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Update on IATA Winter 2010 operations:
DAC - capacity reduced by 50% by replacing 12 weekly A 332s with A 320s.
KTM - frequencies increased from 9 to 11 weekly flights but with using A 320s for all services instead of A 332s.
JED - no more A 343 service...all flights to be flown using an A 332.
MED - capacity increased from 4 weekly E70s to 4 weekly A 320s.
All of these above mentioned changes are officially available on all major GDS systems now!
Operating nonstop BAH-USA-BAH will cause us massive losses. We would need to lease a minimum of 2 Boeing 777-200LRs which isnt enough for a sub fleet type for which 3-4 are required at least. As it is if we flew to USA, our flights will not connect in either direction to Iraq 
No need to get B 777-300ERs as that aircraft type is way too big to meet our needs especially now that we have gone 2 class versus 3 class earlier on.
DAC - capacity reduced by 50% by replacing 12 weekly A 332s with A 320s.
KTM - frequencies increased from 9 to 11 weekly flights but with using A 320s for all services instead of A 332s.
JED - no more A 343 service...all flights to be flown using an A 332.
MED - capacity increased from 4 weekly E70s to 4 weekly A 320s.
All of these above mentioned changes are officially available on all major GDS systems now!
Well there is another rumor that the CP wants GF to get a couple of 777s & operate to the states!
No need to get B 777-300ERs as that aircraft type is way too big to meet our needs especially now that we have gone 2 class versus 3 class earlier on.
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GDS - Global Distribution System aka Sabre/Amadeus/Galileo
The general public cant access it. You can however check these changes on GF's website though. Click on the flight number and then a new window should pop up giving you the aircraft type used for the flight.
By the way concerning returning to USA...just a fyi Turkish Airlines will be launching new daily nonstop flights to Washington DC and Los Angeles effective Dec 1st 2010. Both routes will be flown daily using an A 332 to IAD and a B 77W to LAX operated nonstop from IST with UA code share!
The general public cant access it. You can however check these changes on GF's website though. Click on the flight number and then a new window should pop up giving you the aircraft type used for the flight.
By the way concerning returning to USA...just a fyi Turkish Airlines will be launching new daily nonstop flights to Washington DC and Los Angeles effective Dec 1st 2010. Both routes will be flown daily using an A 332 to IAD and a B 77W to LAX operated nonstop from IST with UA code share!
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Thanks for the Winter 2010 shed. It just proves that, as has been the case for years, that our commercial/marketing depts are a massive joke & really should be disbanded since they are just another useless expense. When will the Iraq flights be cancelled since we now have competition on them & we all know that none of the so called management have the know how to compete & all they know how to do is close routes? Any bets on what our route network will look like by Winter 2011?
"Gulf Air the world's most uninternational national carrier, bringing you more flights than any other carrier to out of the way destinations. We love to be cheap & it shows."
At least the good news is that no more Dac for the bigbus. Things are looking up!?
"Gulf Air the world's most uninternational national carrier, bringing you more flights than any other carrier to out of the way destinations. We love to be cheap & it shows."
At least the good news is that no more Dac for the bigbus. Things are looking up!?
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And of course that same dept. will actually believe you can operate an A320, sell all the seats and honour the carriage of a full load of passengers and their bags! This decision will make the EMB choice look good! I'll also place a side bet that the cargo dept. is highly pi55ed off too!
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Well there is another rumor that the CP wants GF to get a couple of 777s & operate to the states!
Here we go again!?
Here we go again!?
not a bad idea. i have flown with qatar airways and emirates to USA and it was quiet difficult to get a seat for my family. long story short it is a good idea as pax demand for that continent is quiet high. I am not that familiar with the airbus fleet but cant the 333s(which may be arriving somewhere next year ) fy to USA ( non stop). at the same time having the 777s is a great idea.
and bahram jee makes a good point. GF will have to purchase or lease 3 to 4 777s. but it seem abit odd to purchase 4 aircraft just to fly to USA. what would seem logical is purchasing enough 777s for USA and the far east.
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No sir...an A 333 cannot operate nonstop to USA from BAH. It is an aircraft capable of flying 9 hour nonstop flights maximum with a full payload.
However there is a new A 332 called the A 332HGW produced by Airbus of which Korean Air is the launch order with an order of 6 aircraft which can easily operate BAH-NYC nonstop with 240 pax on board. KE ordered this aircraft to fly lower density long haul trans-pacific USA routes to Seattle, Las Vegas + medium density nonstop flights to Central Europe such as Prague and Vienna.
I don't know which USA route of QR in particular you were trying to get a seat on as more often than not seats are easily available on their Houston and JFK nonstop flights
. In fact fyi, JFK has been a huge failure for QR until April 2010 so much so that they reduced it from January 2010 from a daily B 77W to a daily B 77L as loads were pathetic. The most successful route for QR in USA is obviously IAD due to high volume J class traffic + major feed provided by UA.
However, its back to a daily B 77W now as DAC, CMB and KTM connect both ways conveniently via DOH to JFK which they were not previously hence!
I have flown 4 times IAD-DOH-IAD in QR J class in 08 and 09 and simply loved it. I had one of the better fillet mignon steaks on board an airplane flying QR It is an amazing airline to fly (far superior to Emirates in every possible manner except DOH airport duty free) 
However there is a new A 332 called the A 332HGW produced by Airbus of which Korean Air is the launch order with an order of 6 aircraft which can easily operate BAH-NYC nonstop with 240 pax on board. KE ordered this aircraft to fly lower density long haul trans-pacific USA routes to Seattle, Las Vegas + medium density nonstop flights to Central Europe such as Prague and Vienna.
I don't know which USA route of QR in particular you were trying to get a seat on as more often than not seats are easily available on their Houston and JFK nonstop flights
. In fact fyi, JFK has been a huge failure for QR until April 2010 so much so that they reduced it from January 2010 from a daily B 77W to a daily B 77L as loads were pathetic. The most successful route for QR in USA is obviously IAD due to high volume J class traffic + major feed provided by UA.However, its back to a daily B 77W now as DAC, CMB and KTM connect both ways conveniently via DOH to JFK which they were not previously hence!
I have flown 4 times IAD-DOH-IAD in QR J class in 08 and 09 and simply loved it. I had one of the better fillet mignon steaks on board an airplane flying QR
It is an amazing airline to fly (far superior to Emirates in every possible manner except DOH airport duty free)
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I'll also place a side bet that the cargo dept. is highly pi55ed off too!
What ever happened to those freighters and was that business model profitable for the airline at that time?