Gulf Air Developments

[Albergineman]

That’s it guys!
While performing this test you can see the Eng1 Fire ECAM action on the left side of the upper ECAM screen and ENG2, ENG3 and ENG4 Fire memo on the right side of the same screen. This is one of the signs that all the system is been checked simultaneously.
About the Jet Airways’s B777 I can guess they will come under wet lease agreement at the beginning and hopefully, in the later stage, become part of the GF fleet!!!

[Instinct]

Sorry to creep from the topic a bit...

I'm getting the impression that people are either on the 330/340 or on the 320-series.
Is there, or do you think there will be, any possibility of flying mixed fleet in GF?

Thanks

[Che Guevara]

Yes, we fly both 330 and 340 at the moment...I assume that is mixed fleet flying is it?

If you are referring to the 320, the flight instructors fly 320/330.

[Instinct]

Thanks Che,

Sorry for being unclear, I meant 320/330, i.e. short/medium/long haul. I know what I wanted to know now though, so thanks for that!

All the best

[Capt Hair Y Balls]

About the Jet Airways’s B777 I can guess they will come under wet lease agreement at the beginning and hopefully, in the later stage, become part of the GF fleet!!!

........and who knows they may just throw in Mr Hameed Ali as an added bonus

[ShirleyNot]

Doesn't Jet have the 777-300ER? Why oh why would GF need such an aircraft? Yes wouldn't we all like to fly such a machine, but it makes absolutly no sense with the present route structure. The a/c is built for ULH, GF is a medium haul airline. If they bring this a/c it shows yet more poor decision making from our lack of planning department. As for Manila and Shang, they can be nicely covered by A330s.

[Che Guevara]

and would the 330 make JFK with a full load, or back from Manilla in the winter months now that you mention it?

[ShirleyNot]

JFK? Full load? this is PPRUNE I suppose.

[Che Guevara]

Mine was a question mate, nothing to do with PPRUNE or whatever....

[boiler]

There is no way the GF 330 can make SHA of MNL (unless it makes a tech stop). It would probably upgrade some destinations (like MNL, LON, BKK, etc..) to better services esp. those using the old A340s.

[MaffiFaloos]

Garbage. The 330 will go anywhere GF wants to go with ease

[Albergineman]

I think we should disregard the B777 I had mentioned before. A330 is the best option for GF, obviously.
We should consider that these wet leased aircraft could allow GF to send some of the A330/A340 for some heavy maintenance they really deserve.

[bus787]

New orders

When is the first delivery of the new GF mega order Due.??

Any delivery dates or is it just an order on paper?

[.Aero]

Delivery

I believe the year mentioned was 2016 for the 787s

[Che Guevara]

When is the first delivery of the new GF mega order Due.??
Any delivery dates or is it just an order on paper?

A320s start coming in middle of next year for starters. A330s to follow and the 787s starting in 2016. (talking about the new ones here) suspect you will see some leased ones arriving before the end of the year.

Chao Inshallah

[Mephistopheles]

Our 330's can do MNL with ease. In fact I have done one trip back to Bah on it.

[Bombay HF]

The Jet 777s are going to Turkish Airlines i'm afraid, not GF.

[boiler]

Actually only part of the 9W 777s are going to Turkish, not the full fleet. 3 or 4 out of 7 of the B777.

A330 is the best option for GF, obviously.

That depends. Economically speaking, 215 seats is not enough to make things work. You need a higher density arrangement (I estimate an A330 needs to have at least 240 seats to economically justifiable, but this could change with cheaper fuel prices).

[ShirleyNot]

The A330-200 range is around 6700nm (only 500 nm less than an A340-300) while the A330-300 is around 5600nm. The track distance BAH-MNL being 4400nm, it shouldn't be a problem for said 330. The 330-300 can seat around 290 in 3 class config so that should up the numbers.
The 777-300ER has range of 7900nm and engines that would eat an airbus for breakfast, but i can't see the point in us aquiring them.

[dragon330]

4 777's are going to GF. The contract is in the process of being signed. Wet-lease in the initial instance.