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Old 23rd August 2011 | 19:50
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Hey sleek, I am on Pprune to share, yeah, loads of experience. I thought I did that. In offering you advice, take it or leave it. To tell me to watch my mouth. How dare you , pussycat. You have no chance of passing ANY selection Board with that attitude. Keep YOUR mouth shut at your GF interview. Don't ask any questions. Oh, and say hello to that "Regret to inform you" letter of which I am sure you have enough to decorate your house with ! Put some cream on that nose. We ALL know where you will be placing it. Twerp.
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Old 23rd August 2011 | 19:56
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Bonds

FYI, the new hire EMB pilots ARE NOT BONDED and they are sending them to Amman for the induction sims. so a double standard if this is true. Sad and to be honest as a type rated guy why would u even consider signing a bond? Slap in the face and lets be honest shows we are not a top notch carrier as we are scared of losing DEC in a few months. unfortunate situation.
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Old 23rd August 2011 | 23:17
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Thanks for the information Deserthawk.

I agree with you. Why would any one sign a bond if type rated.
Sad to see GF's double standard!

Can any one confirm average monthly hours a pilot flies in GF?
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Old 23rd August 2011 | 23:42
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Guys , u can stop bashing each other. We would like to get more pertinent info on the work at GF!
So slowjet , can you tell us any thing about GF that might help all our fellow pilots?
Guess not!

OKAY , here is some info about the bond! Since GF is getting 20 new A320's as per the posts by sincere GF pilots , there should be no bond as Airbus offers free type ratings when you buy airplanes from them. Depending on the airline, 4 pilot type ratings are free. sometimes 2 or 6.

So, as mentioned earlier by MR. DESERTHAWK and MR. SSSAND, the bond is only to keep the pilots from leaving next door.
I believe many left to QATAR earlier and there are many more still leaving.
GF doesn't care about EMB and C series as there are not many choices of airlines to go to with that type rating. nor there will be ever!
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Old 24th August 2011 | 05:31
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Gulf Air, like ALL airlines here, makes a substantial investment when hiring a new pilot, therefore bonds them for a specific period to help defray the cost, if one is not happy, go sign a bigger one at EK or QR, simple...QR will actually deduct it from your salary for the time specified...
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Old 24th August 2011 | 08:57
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ironbutt!!!!!!! i usually am very inline with your thinking but are u serious! there is NO bond on the EMB but a bond for TYPE rated guys on the 320? been here a long time and this has never been the case, if u came type rated u had no bond, and by the way this is in line with INDUSTRY standards around the world. seriously i get how u defend your territory as do i when needed but this is so far beyond normal u truly sound like a man with his head in the sand!


2. avg hours on 320 approx 75-80, recent pay check 4200 bd approx give or take a few BD this does not include the 700 housing total is approx 4900 all together, so not to shabby
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Old 24th August 2011 | 09:09
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Another late roster!!! I guess antoine is so busy planning the post-Eid rosters for all the management & friends. Ramadan is shortly over so now all the boys want to head out to party.
Saw one of our 340s back by the hangars the other day. What's the plan with that? They planning on using it or just letting it rot in quietly in the corner.
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Old 24th August 2011 | 10:03
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A340 sale to Hellenic Imperail deal fell through.

Also, GF announces 3 new routes for the upcoming Winter 11 season;
Media Center |About Gulf Air|Gulf Air

FCO will be flown 4 times per week using an A320 effective 30NOV

JUB will be flown 3 times per week using an E90 effecitve 07FEB

EBB will be flown 4 times per week using an A319 effective 05DEC


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Old 24th August 2011 | 14:35
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Thank you

Thank you , Deserthawk , SSSAnd , Jonh21Uk , Mephistopheles , Shovel , Apache702 ALL THOSE WHO POSTED INFORMATION
Information you post are very helpful to pilots who are looking to join.
If we always had this , the union and airlines would never be able take advantage of us.

THANKS AGAIN GUYS!
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Old 24th August 2011 | 21:44
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Surprised they missed out Mogadishu....
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Old 25th August 2011 | 03:16
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Latest Info on Bond!

Guys , those of you who are joining as A320 direct entry pilots Captains and f.o's. there is a way to get out of the bond . do you know the term wasta. it is called whom you know in the company. there is 1 pilot negotiating not signing the bond right now as we speak. GF is considering it also.

the 2 people who interviewed you , talk to them. They will work something out. This is INSIDER information. Careful! How you swing this.

If you guys go as a team they will remove the bond. Guaranteed!
Madam ZM knows all about it. Hope you guys make it.
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Old 25th August 2011 | 20:47
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The real surprise is that we are not flying to Tripoli, I was expecting that after Bagdad and Kabul.
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Old 25th August 2011 | 20:49
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New joiners-play hardball with the idiots in HR & upstairs. They are all talk & despite all their BS they are desparate for people to join. Good luck.
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Old 25th August 2011 | 21:33
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The real surprise is that we are not flying to Tripoli, I was expecting that after Bagdad and Kabul.

You mean - not yet
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Old 25th August 2011 | 21:43
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Time: 00:30 LT
Day: 26 AUG 2011
Roster: NIL
Crew Planning: Useless
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Old 26th August 2011 | 08:52
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Anyone out there remember Dick Hughes ? I shot into rostering one day, huffing & puffing because I had a ten day block which started at 0001 day one, and after a ten-day gap (nothing written in) it ended at 0059 ! He knew I was ex BA and said, "Listen old boy, this is not BA, in fact, it is not even an airline. It is a flying club & everyone here loves it. Your ten day block will be filled in with data in due course. Now off you go to the Gulf Hotel Swimming pool & top up that tan". I did and hardly looked back for 17 odd years.
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Old 26th August 2011 | 12:31
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Pilot rosters WILL be published on the 25th.
(should be published on 23rd OR duly notified in case of exigency)

Friday 26th 15:30 STILL NO #%&#& ROSTER
Accountability.......???????????
Management still asking themselves why people are leaving?
1 big factor = a.a. and the inability of proper crew planning or establishing crew numbers for fleet requirements!
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Old 26th August 2011 | 16:22
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Having been here for several years , it gets rather old seeing the same old complaints whenever a wave of new recruits come in...wave after wave after wave of the same !!!!.
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Old 27th August 2011 | 18:10
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What's the status of GF's flights that were temporarily cancelled due to the political unrest earlier this year? Has the full schedule been resumed yet?
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Old 27th August 2011 | 21:00
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Dick Hughes

Dick Hughes - Many the Night Shifts I've shared with Dickie in that grotty old Muharraq Ops Block. The only drawback was Dick's Disco - a battered tape player which belted out Pink Floyd non-stop at three o'clock in the morning for it seems at least ten years or more. Drove me mad. Even so I never learnt the words - some rubbish about a hole in a wall?
Dickie now lives in Wales and manages Abergavenny Market. We keep in touch.
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