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Old 12th Dec 2008, 07:24
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i asked its by seniority! so the 340/330 capts are going first!,fos as well on that fleet! maybe u dont know brassplate but a lot of the captains and fos have boeing ratings with heavy time on the 767 and 737,and of course the tristar as well
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Brass plate we understand you volunteered to transfer from Boing to the Bus.!!!!!
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 03:45
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Does this even really matter? A discussion of who flew what in the past?

At most of the worlds' airlines, fleet transfer to any other type, regardless of past type experience, is based on 1) seniority and 2) interest.

Any other suggestions, with regards to "I have over 2000 hours on Boeing 767's" or "Airbus people can't fly real airplanes" IMHO are both silly and immature.
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 03:59
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Thumbs down

There are some things that seem too hard to change... and it was taking too long until somebody starts to screw the topic.

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Actually none of it matters..nobody at GF is more or less qualified than anybody else to fly Boeing as any recency has long since gone..so there is no reason whatsoever to circumvent the seniority system thats in place...
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 04:32
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Well said said Mr. Butt. But will that transpire this time around? I'm still waiting to interview and number one on my wanting to work at Gulf is the adherence to an true seniority system. It benefits ALL!, in the short term and LONG run.
On another note, I hear that several class dates have been postponed/cancelled. What is going on in/at the Pink palace? Are the guys with class dates next year Jan-Feb-Mar still going to start as told by the chief pilot in the final interviews?

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Old 13th Dec 2008, 04:39
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As far as I know hiring is continuing as planned, heard there were some delays processing visas..many gov't holidays this time of year..
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 06:57
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Thoughts about future management at GF

Given all the rumors that come part and parcel with an airline, especially about management and the future of it at GF, I thought the following article provided interesting food for thought:

Effective airline leadership succession - exclusive analysis by Spencer Stuart | Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 06:59
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Well done, totally agree. But, I think only opening a channel of conversation with management can save our seniority system at this stage once to give the opportunity to seniors guys to choose fly 777 they have to up grade juniors captains to wide bodies, up grade seniors FOs to a captains, FOs to a wide bodies and hire new people on bottom. I can't see this happening in couple months ahead they should start now and quickly. Looks like to be a excuse for later on hire rated guys just to be more convenience and cheaper. Doesn't matter who will fly what, let’s work as a team.
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It is happening now...
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Old 13th Dec 2008, 11:13
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If you are not aware of it, the training department is doing exactly what you are talking about....however there are limits to how much they can do and how fast they can do it....
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 10:45
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Nice to know!!! It's to cover shortage or for extra planes to come?
Tke care,
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Old 14th Dec 2008, 11:41
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Both, however as I said the training department has it's limitations, whether it is simultor availability, instructor workload and so on.
Luckily for GF they have been able to hire a lot of type rated pilots due to the global economic slowdown and therefore are on their way to catching up with the shortfalls which until fairly recently was beginning to resemble a dog chasing it's tail...

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Old 15th Dec 2008, 13:00
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People have been promised a command in 18 months if they join as an f/o on the bus(ex capt pre credit crunch). How does that fit in with your seniority list.
They have accepted and begun trg.
Personnally Im enjoying early retirement with their partners whilst they are away trg.
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 14:28
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How does that fit in with your seniority list.
Well, quite simply they will have to stand in line behind a lot of well qualified and in some cases equally experienced pilots and oh yes, nearly forgot, inshallah.
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 14:58
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Sorry to get off topic a bit, have the two Jet Airways A330 received some kind of Gulf Air titles? If so, are there any pictures? Or are they flying as standard Jet aircraft?

Thx and rgds Stefan
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 15:30
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They are still boasting Jet Airways livery

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Old 15th Dec 2008, 16:00
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stefan1138,

The wet-lease aircraft are entirely indistinguishable from the the rest of the Jet Airways fleet. The crews are Jet Airways crews wearing Jet Airways' uniforms, with the exception of two additional Gulf Air crew who provide Arabic language service.
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 16:43
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The big question is what livery are the 333s from ILFC coming in...the all new top secret one or the present one? Any rumours on this?

Cheers
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Old 15th Dec 2008, 17:16
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Dont trust any interviewer saying you will get command in any time period (18months) unless its put in writing.

I must stress that any HR department will not want their FO's getting Foxtrot Oscar and leaving as this is a cost to the company and gives them more work. Airlines should be honest and open about their recruitment policy, and the ability to progress. For example when a new type is introduced its logical that there will be an intake of direct entry Captains and FO's but a good employer will also ringfence a given number or positions for internal candidates. However this gives rise to a question of what to do with FO's who will never make command?
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