Basing Poll
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From: Chabanais, France
"And the Bull about Cathay going down etc because of outbasing. I don't think that has anything to do with it".
Sorry, but it has everything to do with it, not 'bull' at all. Ask any of the old China hands, CX was once a great place but that was before basings.
Sorry, but it has everything to do with it, not 'bull' at all. Ask any of the old China hands, CX was once a great place but that was before basings.
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From: In Fresh Air
I guess the point of my little poll was missed. We all know that it would probably snow here in the land of glitter before TCAS would offer basings or such. My point was, we are at a pretty successful airline with a lot of growth potential and a butt load of airplanes coming. However, if any of the other Gulf airlines (with all of the problems that are related here-and not saying EK doesn't have them) would you leave EK for employment with one of the others, if offered?
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From: Boldly going where no split infinitive has gone before..
Panther,
Much as there is the usual wailing about being here, my point was that if people haven't left here to work for carriers based in there own home towns, or indeed taken commuting jobs elsewhere, why would they leave EK for a commuting job elsewhere in the gulf?
Much as there is the usual wailing about being here, my point was that if people haven't left here to work for carriers based in there own home towns, or indeed taken commuting jobs elsewhere, why would they leave EK for a commuting job elsewhere in the gulf?
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From: Sandpit
Why has nobody left yet?
It is all economics. And yes in todays situation there is no need for a base yet since there is not a shortage of pilots anymore, EK and EY take no DEC at the moment and even QR seemed to be very successful recruiting in the USA. But times will change, with all the aircraft ordered there will be a shortage soon and it will be massive.
I still think that there would be a possibility to hire contract pilots with base in US or AUS. Also with a clever roster you could right now schedule 2 week on and 2 weeks off and still fly 85 hours, so the pilots and their families could live at home in Europe or India or wherever. Of course then there might be a big tax issue depending on the home country. But this would be the problem of the individual pilot not of the company.
I still think that there would be a possibility to hire contract pilots with base in US or AUS. Also with a clever roster you could right now schedule 2 week on and 2 weeks off and still fly 85 hours, so the pilots and their families could live at home in Europe or India or wherever. Of course then there might be a big tax issue depending on the home country. But this would be the problem of the individual pilot not of the company.
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From: Alaska
It is possible when Emirates start their low cost subsidiary, bases will happen.
A cheaper cost base will be needed so a basing without accomodation and schooling is the perfect choice for flight crew as well as a lower salary. Not to mention the drawcard for direct entry widebody crews without upsetting the mainline Emirates crews.
A cheaper cost base will be needed so a basing without accomodation and schooling is the perfect choice for flight crew as well as a lower salary. Not to mention the drawcard for direct entry widebody crews without upsetting the mainline Emirates crews.
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You could put another spin to that comment completely and say that basings would be an even more effective method of isolating the pilot body, as seems to be the intention with the design of the new ops centre.
On the point of basings 'roooning' CX, I think the basings just happened to co-incide with (or were a part of?) a change of management style (ASL, B Scales etc), where some bright MBA breezed into CX with a management style he'd learnt at the Frank Lorenzo School of Airline Management, (which I see, if we were to drop the 'S', turns into a rather unfortunate, if all too accuracte acronym; maybe if we were to precede that with a pre-MBA course at the 'Frank Lorenzo Institute of Management', we'd get a really unfortunate/accurate acronym?).
On the point of basings 'roooning' CX, I think the basings just happened to co-incide with (or were a part of?) a change of management style (ASL, B Scales etc), where some bright MBA breezed into CX with a management style he'd learnt at the Frank Lorenzo School of Airline Management, (which I see, if we were to drop the 'S', turns into a rather unfortunate, if all too accuracte acronym; maybe if we were to precede that with a pre-MBA course at the 'Frank Lorenzo Institute of Management', we'd get a really unfortunate/accurate acronym?).
