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Old 5th Sep 2008, 16:16
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intaomri Really?

Yes i am sure they will turn the volume down if you ask nicely. but if you threaten then or be rude expect it to go WAY UP!
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Old 5th Sep 2008, 17:12
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flygulfair,

The BBC/church bells are idiotic comparisons to the call to prayer. You can turn the BBC off, and they don't play carols non-stop for a month every nine or ten months, and then all day, every day the rest of the year. And as pointed out, they don't ring the church bells at 4am for an hour.

You go on a rant about respect, but that is exactly all someone trying to get some sleep is asking for. I hate it when people wrap themself in the "religion" blanket, it's almost as bad as the "race card". No one is trying to curtail the blessed religion, just be allowed to have one of the more basic human needs - so they must be a bigot! Typical...expecting respect and courtesy, but never willing to extend any. Hence I subscribe to a more guerrilla approach, a little AC/DC "Highway to Hell" on some very powerful speakers. Worked well so far and surprisingly satisfying!
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 07:14
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Flygulfair

Noloimit's summed it up quite well..... You demand respect but don't give it! I keep being told we're all 'guests' in the UAE - well, fine but if I had guests in my house I wouldn't keep them awake all night and then expect them to work for me (helping my personal economy and all that) when they haven't been able to sleep...

TWO WAY STREET....... Does that mean anything to you?

Oh yes flygulfair - when you're in my country please respect my religion and don't DEMAND that sharia law should be implemented there as some of you chaps are wont to do.
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 11:04
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Typical attitude

You can see why most people get tired of this place. Take sh.. or leave it, thats the general attitude here. And yes there is the time when one of the two buckets gets too full and it is time to leave
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 11:09
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A/C noise

Do you feel fatigued because of A/C noise, have you asked the airport to stop the A/C flying, I find it more disturbing but you eventually adapt.
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 12:14
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I like Ramadan, and while I understand the pressures of give and take, and the chances of nerves getting ever so slightly frayed, I feel that if you chose to come and work in the Middle East, then you have to take the rough with the smooth - albeit losing sleep during the call to prayer in the morning.

There is a mosque right beside my house. They built it last year with donations from the local community and from generous contributions from some people outside of it.

Having lived beside airports, train stations and a port (try a fog horn at 4am - it makes the call sound like a lullaby!), I get used to the noises quite quickly and now I don't even hear the calls at night. I am lucky I guess.

But seriously...this is the Middle East and Ramadan has been going on for far longer than you or I have even known about the region.
We choose to come here, we get paid fairly well, and yes, we take a lot of crap and "disrespect" but it's only for a month - and it is their religion.

While I am on the subject, I hear too much BS comments about the locals being hypocrites in relation to their religion. Complaints about locals drinking in bars and chatting up women.
These comments hold no water - it is the same everywhere - check out any religion in Europe or the UK.
Excess drinking is not condoned, and if memory serves me right, all good little children of God should be fasting on a Friday. In fact, my grandmother used to fast on Wednesday and Friday - Lord rest her soul.
There are the devout in all religions: Islam and Christianity included. If you have as much as looked sideways at the perfectly formed backside of the CSD on a flight and drooled, while your wife is at home with the kids, then you are just as guilty as anyone else.

So, while I have all the sympathy in the world for those of you who get woken up by the call, you have to realise that you chose to come here, and if you didn't research it fully then that's your lookout. As the Aussie government guy said a few years ago "You have options."

Works both ways.

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Old 6th Sep 2008, 12:30
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There are the devout in all religions: Islam and Christianity included. If you have as much as looked sideways at the perfectly formed backside of the CSD on a flight and drooled, while your wife is at home with the kids, then you are just as guilty as anyone else.
We have a CSD with a perfectly formed backside? Who's that?
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 12:52
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320 star - if you buy a house near an airport you expect aircraft noise... If you live in a house for 4 years and a mosque is built right next to it then that is a different thing. Especially as the volume of this particular mosque is several times louder than the one down the road (that's been there for several years......) And you'll find that in Europe, North America, Oz etc there are RESTRICTIONS at many airports during the night when residents are trying to SLEEP...

Farrell - it's not a quick two minute call to prayer but an entire sermon that's sounds as if the mullah's in your bedroom with you at 05:30.. Nor is it moaning about the religion because I know several muslims living near us who ALSO COMPLAIN VEHEMENTLY about the noise. In fact, some of our muslim MANAGEMENT have approached said mullah and requested (nicely) that the volume be lowered but to no avail.... So no - it's not just us western 'kfirs' complaing

Also Farrell, fasting on Friday was an 'old testament' requirement. That's why pork meat is also perfectly acceptable AD.... As for the complaints about locals in bars picking up hookers and enjoying pints.. They are supposed to have NO BOOZE, which is different from Christianity which says not to get drunk....

Have a nice rest
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 14:02
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Grrr

Right guys, i wondered how long it would take for the mouth foaming individuals to come out. Not seen them just yet, but a few are sailing close to the wind.

Please keep on topic, or posts get binned and/or the thread closed

You have been warned

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Old 6th Sep 2008, 14:06
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an entire sermon that's sounds as if the mullah's in your bedroom
LOL Classic!

Seriously, I know the mosques you are talking about mate.
It appears that some imams go off the rails sometimes.

Even if they did agree to change the whole process, it will take years.
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It really makes me wonder if all you chaps are that good in expressing your lovely thought of the culture-you choose to live in voluntarily -aloud or to muslim colleges, what a load of hypocrites

I bet my stripes that non of you has the courage to even hint such a thing in a public argument out of fear that you might loose your job, but hey,if your not enjoying the job, culture, religon, weather, driving, salary, arabs and so on , why the f%*k are you still here?????

I’ll tell you why, because no other place will accept you, so either put up or shut the f&#k up.

p.s. Farrell, that was stated nicely and fairly, cheers mate.

And oh, BRING IT ON

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Old 6th Sep 2008, 15:31
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We all chose to live here (warts and all).

That includes the traffic, the shop closures, the noise from the minirates.

When we get tired of it, we leave.

Sounds like someone needs to start looking for greener fields.

Complaining about the religion of the country you choose to work in sounds a bit

Ramadan Kareem to all
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