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NO BS: from the company E-mail.
Good news
...well...(better than nothing..well yes.. agreed)But:
Look at the big picture:
The "Good news" you are talking about is only for people who have lost a huge amount of their salary in the currency exchange rate the last 5&6 years(up to 40%+), the ERP will never compensate that lost!
The guys who won't get anything are the most lucky one, it means they haven't lost anything the last 5&6 years!
SKYa 320:
In the "best" Scenario the ERP will provide you ...1300QR.../month...
Do you think this will change the mind of people willing to leave....?
Lets not forget that the Dollar has probably reached his lowest level now..
So it basicaly means that within 4&5 years you will not get anything as ERP.
Good news
...well...(better than nothing..well yes.. agreed)But:Look at the big picture:
The "Good news" you are talking about is only for people who have lost a huge amount of their salary in the currency exchange rate the last 5&6 years(up to 40%+), the ERP will never compensate that lost!
The guys who won't get anything are the most lucky one, it means they haven't lost anything the last 5&6 years!
SKYa 320:
In the "best" Scenario the ERP will provide you ...1300QR.../month...
Do you think this will change the mind of people willing to leave....?
Lets not forget that the Dollar has probably reached his lowest level now..
So it basicaly means that within 4&5 years you will not get anything as ERP.
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I don't think it will make any difference for people planning to leave the company.
4.5% on the basic = appr 2.25% on total salary. >15% inflation...15-2.25= 12.75% salary decrease.
And I have great difficulty seeing how it will attract the number of pilots that we need in the near future even if we are aiming lower when it comes to quality than our competition.
I guess they're betting on that they will manage with the numbers that we have until next year and then increase the package if it is needed.
Dangerous game though...
4.5% on the basic = appr 2.25% on total salary. >15% inflation...15-2.25= 12.75% salary decrease.
And I have great difficulty seeing how it will attract the number of pilots that we need in the near future even if we are aiming lower when it comes to quality than our competition.
I guess they're betting on that they will manage with the numbers that we have until next year and then increase the package if it is needed.
Dangerous game though...
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Do they sound like a happy lot to you?
They inhale dust year round and have to cope
with crap housing, dangerous traffic and an extreme
weather in a flat boring place where the only scenery
is a bulldozer redigging a ditch for the 23 rd time.
Of-course they are here for the money.
And those gentlemen are not asking for a pay rise.
They are objecting to a pay cut induced by inflation.
We deserve a good standard of living and to be able
to send money back home at the end of the month.
You can not do those two things at the same
time if you are living in Doha now.
They inhale dust year round and have to cope
with crap housing, dangerous traffic and an extreme
weather in a flat boring place where the only scenery
is a bulldozer redigging a ditch for the 23 rd time.
Of-course they are here for the money.
And those gentlemen are not asking for a pay rise.
They are objecting to a pay cut induced by inflation.
We deserve a good standard of living and to be able
to send money back home at the end of the month.
You can not do those two things at the same
time if you are living in Doha now.
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More to life than money, selling your hapiness to the Arabs then complaining about YOUR decision on here 
....the desert is hot and dusty....has been for thousands of years....will continue to be for thousands more.....check if out before you go there
Money grabbers.....
....the desert is hot and dusty....has been for thousands of years....will continue to be for thousands more.....check if out before you go there
Money grabbers.....
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To me it's still better than nothing at all. Pay increase would be nice, but in the meantime ERP will give us a bit more due to US$ devaluation.
loc22550 Thank you for confirming my source.
Let's hope that the company will increase our pay soon.
loc22550 Thank you for confirming my source.
Let's hope that the company will increase our pay soon.
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Not there anymore Terri Wrist (Black Stain).
People make a conscious and free decision to move to the desert, then complain about how hot it is when they get there
etc...etc...etc...
Weren't any of you good enough to get into a big airline in Europe? Is that the real issue here? There certainly seems to be a lack of experiance and adundance of naivety in the decision making and life skills departments.
Anyone need a second hand car?
People make a conscious and free decision to move to the desert, then complain about how hot it is when they get there
etc...etc...etc...
Weren't any of you good enough to get into a big airline in Europe? Is that the real issue here? There certainly seems to be a lack of experiance and adundance of naivety in the decision making and life skills departments.
Anyone need a second hand car?
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Honored that U think so Notanotherhilton, but no cigar, Terri not Terry. Good idea for you to keep the iron hot here too, when that major european airline you just joined cuts staff you might need somewhere to go 
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Quote BY PITA:
"New rostering system will reduce salary to pilots..."???
If you can,
CEO PITA, can you elaborate a little , and be more precise regarding your statement...?
Thks.
Loc.
"New rostering system will reduce salary to pilots..."???
If you can,
CEO PITA, can you elaborate a little , and be more precise regarding your statement...?
Thks.
Loc.
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PITA put it a bit simple, as simple is his own house style...
The new system will optimize rosters. This means everybody should be hovering around 75hours average!
Some will win, some will loose!
I just hope the system will take care of the maffia and the bribing practices!
The new system will optimize rosters. This means everybody should be hovering around 75hours average!
Some will win, some will loose!
I just hope the system will take care of the maffia and the bribing practices!
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New system is loaded with data from QR and one of data is that pilots are not payed for DH .Thats expecive system was not taken becouse its fair to pilots but becouse it can cut the cost to airline. check youre sept roster and tell us how many DH flights you have .
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???
Sorry can you be clear as well....?
(we have never been paid for Duty hours (DH?)anyway in qatar airways,but for schedule block time.)..for the rest.. i didn't understand anything.!
Sorry can you be clear as well....?
(we have never been paid for Duty hours (DH?)anyway in qatar airways,but for schedule block time.)..for the rest.. i didn't understand anything.!
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Notanotherhilton....here he goes again...
I just don't get you at all. As soon as anyone complains about the situation in QR you strike down on us like a hawk, calling us whiners, spoiled, naive etc.
But at the same time you complain about the same things regarding your present location and airline, I've seen it in several threads. You're bitching about high inflation, taxes, increasing energy bills, food prices etc etc.
What's going on, you think that you can insult all of us and then do the exact same thing yourself, as you're criticising us of doing.
Rule no 1, live as you preach! If you want any respect from other people, that is.
Come on and give us all a f
ing break, this is just ridiculous.
I just don't get you at all. As soon as anyone complains about the situation in QR you strike down on us like a hawk, calling us whiners, spoiled, naive etc.
But at the same time you complain about the same things regarding your present location and airline, I've seen it in several threads. You're bitching about high inflation, taxes, increasing energy bills, food prices etc etc.
What's going on, you think that you can insult all of us and then do the exact same thing yourself, as you're criticising us of doing.
Rule no 1, live as you preach! If you want any respect from other people, that is.
Come on and give us all a f
ing break, this is just ridiculous.
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Yea DHC ( Dead Heading Crew ) . New system in trail phase has given a lot of DHC becouse crew can be used better and more ( legal) and less to pay since DHC is (free duty) for litle small man .
Soon all fleet will have duty time 200h and flight time 65h.
Soon all fleet will have duty time 200h and flight time 65h.