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I'm picturing you getting back from Berlin with a suitcase full of weiners, wurst and pork knuckles and maybe even a new low-rider glass-top table, only to find the house vacant, a/c off, temp 59C inside (no idea what that is in degF), the dog dead of heat exhaustion and a note saying "F*** YOU!!"
thehulk, coming to the Sandpit from Florida, you probably think you're prepared for the heat of a Dubai August. Simply put, you're not. Add to that the undebatable point that your wife won't be able to do anything towards setting herself and the family up without your being here.
This ain't the USA - your wife is no longer an equal in the eyes of 'the system' - she'll be here under your sponsorship, which means the husband's signature (along with his passport) will be required in half a dozen cases for what at first glance would seem to be the most simple transactions; opening a bank account; buying a car; getting a driver's licence; (note: it's a driver's licence over here, not a license); possibly even organising getting the kids into a school if you haven't got that arranged already; opening an account at the local supermarket.
And until she and the kids have their resident's visas - almost impossible to arrange in the very short time you'll be here before winging it off to Berlin - she won't be able to do most of those things listed above.
If you have very close friends here already, people she'll be able to rely upon and call upon on an almost daily basis, and if she's got a platinum bar for a spine, she may cope. If she's going to be on her own without some such support system, plan to be spending a lot of money on phone calls between Dubai and Berlin - and plan equally to not be giving all your concentration to the course. You'll be dealing daily with one very frustrated and possibly very unhappy wife.
As for bringing your container over: your wife will almost certainly not be able to get it through Customs, (especially if she doesn't have a resident's visa). It will have to be you. Even if she is allowed to receive the container, (and I very much doubt she will), in 99% of cases, the temporary accommodation you'll be put into will leave you with nowhere to put your furniture.
...and if you have to leave it in the container.... did I mention the heat? Look on the bright side - no bugs will be eating your woodwork. They'll be fried - on the 'well done' side of fried, along with all your goodies.
There are some self-storage places in the Sandpit now, but on an FO's salary, you'll gasp at what the monthly charges will be, and your goods will be as heat affected in said storage facilities as they would be left in the container. No such places are air conditioned.
In short, I don't believe your wife and kids will thank you if you drop them off here and disappear to Berlin.
My advice? If you've got them organised into a school here already, contact the school, pay yer money up front to have them hold the kids' places, (you always have to do that in the Sandpit), and either home school them or let them start their school year back in Florida and bring them here after you've completed your training, or at least, after you get back from Berlin.
From where you're standing now, this might seem very poor advice. I think it would be a safe bet that six months from now, if you follow your 'Plan A', you'll agree with me.
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Wiley,
Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. Hopefully it won't come to all that.
Still waiting to hear the final outcome of where training will be.
Keeping fingers crossed till then.
Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. Hopefully it won't come to all that.
Still waiting to hear the final outcome of where training will be.
Keeping fingers crossed till then.
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That is why I 'manage busses' and not write books. 
PR876 Container in Dubai is probably expensive rather than expansive.On second thoughts in that heat it could well be expansive!!
Accommodation (housing) is two m's whilst on the subject
PS Where is Berin??
PPS Thru is through in English
Perhaps the reason you have not yet run into a container is because you look where you are going when driving compared to the locals?
Accommodation (housing) is two m's whilst on the subject
PS Where is Berin??
PPS Thru is through in English
Perhaps the reason you have not yet run into a container is because you look where you are going when driving compared to the locals?
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Gents, I'm quite curious and I don't want to start another revolution but: Why all the snide/cheaky American comments?
What did/do/have done the Yanks to you at EK to warrant all these remarks?? And It's not only here that I've heard them so don't try to tell me it's all in fun on the thread. I never hear the Yanks poking fun of their friends across the pond....and I fly with many Yanks!
BTW, I'm not an American...just curious!
PS> Lay off the Hulk....I don't think he's a full blooded Yank!
What did/do/have done the Yanks to you at EK to warrant all these remarks?? And It's not only here that I've heard them so don't try to tell me it's all in fun on the thread. I never hear the Yanks poking fun of their friends across the pond....and I fly with many Yanks!
BTW, I'm not an American...just curious!
PS> Lay off the Hulk....I don't think he's a full blooded Yank!
It is probably because the USA is portrayed as the greatest place on Earth and you Idiots are leaving it . Doesnt seem right really. Your donations to the IRS will be greatly received in 4 years though.
Good luck suckers...............
Good luck suckers...............
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It is probably because the USA is portrayed as the greatest place on Earth and you Idiots are leaving it . Doesnt seem right really. Your donations to the IRS will be greatly received in 4 years though.
Good luck suckers...............
Wow, so that is your reason? And you call them Idiots and suckers because they are being forced from their homeland... as most likely you have been or soon to be??
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It is probably because the USA is portrayed as the greatest place on Earth and you Idiots are leaving it . Doesnt seem right really. Your donations to the IRS will be greatly received in 4 years though.
Good luck suckers...............
Wow, so that is your reason? And you call them Idiots and suckers because they are being forced from their homeland... as most likely you have been or soon to be??
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Blue320, I think it's because a proportion of your countrymen who arrive here come with an attitude that it's a given (to them at least) that everyone from everywhere else wants to be just like Americans and do things just as Americans do.
The majority of Americans sit back, keep their mouths shut and see quite quickly that this is not the case. However that noisy proportion of Americans never seem to get it, and continue to behave as if we'd all be doing just like you do everything back in "the States" (a phrase, BTW, that really annoys many not from "the States") if only we could.
Fact is, most of us - and even moreso, the Locals (what nearly everyone here calls the Arabs) - don't want to do things or for things over here to be just like they are in "the States", and because enough Americans who come here never seem to learn this, they create a certain amount of friction and noise that many if not most other newly arrived expatriates do not.
Hence the nasty comments.
The majority of Americans sit back, keep their mouths shut and see quite quickly that this is not the case. However that noisy proportion of Americans never seem to get it, and continue to behave as if we'd all be doing just like you do everything back in "the States" (a phrase, BTW, that really annoys many not from "the States") if only we could.
Fact is, most of us - and even moreso, the Locals (what nearly everyone here calls the Arabs) - don't want to do things or for things over here to be just like they are in "the States", and because enough Americans who come here never seem to learn this, they create a certain amount of friction and noise that many if not most other newly arrived expatriates do not.
Hence the nasty comments.
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Fubar, thanks for the fair and balanced opinion... I do see your point about "This is how we do it back in the States" song and I'm sure it gets tiring to hear it!
Like I said, I am not a full blooded American but I live and work here so I was curious. America is so big therefore, most Amercicans just have not traveled enough to know and understand a difference out side their country. Now they are learning...the hard way. So give 'em a wi bit of berth before ya kick 'em in the nutts!
Like I said, I am not a full blooded American but I live and work here so I was curious. America is so big therefore, most Amercicans just have not traveled enough to know and understand a difference out side their country. Now they are learning...the hard way. So give 'em a wi bit of berth before ya kick 'em in the nutts!
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Not American but lets slag everyone......
..bloody Canadians and their constant hockey talk and eh's
... Aussies and there complaining about all not Aussie
...Europeans who believe everything in Europe is superior
....last but not least the Brits with their bloody drunkeness (re. the guy on the last ek FLIGHT), thinking this is their personal playground (re. couple on the beach), belief that their aviation English is correct --hmm last I heard using the word THE before their callsign was not proper ..or how about 'squak 5324 COMING DOWN"
Need we say more??!! To the American coming or thinking of coming please be aware that some of the moronic comments here are not REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TYPICAL EXPAT HERE IN THE gULF.
..bloody Canadians and their constant hockey talk and eh's
... Aussies and there complaining about all not Aussie
...Europeans who believe everything in Europe is superior
....last but not least the Brits with their bloody drunkeness (re. the guy on the last ek FLIGHT), thinking this is their personal playground (re. couple on the beach), belief that their aviation English is correct --hmm last I heard using the word THE before their callsign was not proper ..or how about 'squak 5324 COMING DOWN"
Need we say more??!! To the American coming or thinking of coming please be aware that some of the moronic comments here are not REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TYPICAL EXPAT HERE IN THE gULF.
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....last but not least the Brits with their bloody drunkeness (re. the guy on the last ek FLIGHT), thinking this is their personal playground (re. couple on the beach), belief that their aviation English is correct --hmm last I heard using the word THE before their callsign was not proper ..or how about 'squak 5324 COMING DOWN"
And i have heard they like the beach
for various activities!If you had been here a while Trader habib, you would know that CAP413 is the EK standard for all radio work on an EK aircraft. So the Brits are correct
Now the yanks and their radio work
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short flights long nights
my question is now..where did this Squawk 1234 coming down ...come from? I hate to admit it, but even I say it some times, and I have no idea where I got it from
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The Brits did invent the radar so maybe that's where the squawk talk came from!
But me all time favorite:
We are "FINALS" for landing!!
Now that just ain't any proper ways to use a plural wording for a singular actions!!
But me all time favorite:
We are "FINALS" for landing!!
Now that just ain't any proper ways to use a plural wording for a singular actions!!
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If you had been here a while Trader habib, you would know that CAP413 is the EK standard for all radio work on an EK aircraft. So the Brits are correct
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Well Spag Habib, actually TCAS mandated that the CAP413 was the EK standard a few years back. You maybe new around here. I know some of the trainers/SFI's have copies, either on disc for your perusal.
As for outsourcing, enough said regards to consistent quality of training
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As for outsourcing, enough said regards to consistent quality of training
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And here in lies a problem. Someone mandates a policy, but it is not written any where, it is assumed that those present on the day will teach all that follow the new procedure. But it is not part of any training course so it doesn't get done. Same happens with out-sourcing, the details get lost. (had to mention that to keep the post relevent to the thread). If CAP 413 is supposed to be the standard, someone better tell the DXB controllers as well as the pilots.