If your a happy First Officer at Qatar Airways then please do inform me!
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FWIW, I met a six year B777 CA today who was very happy there. He seemed keen on having people apply, felt the future was looking good, and had good things to say about the airplanes (No MELs etc). He also mentioned possible new foreign domiciles. Any confirmation?
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A word of caution
Qatar Airways does read this forum
Should you have any negative views regarding the place, the country or the company, be aware they will try and suss out who you are and identify you. They will take a very dim view of such post if you are an employee or someone who has applied.
You may say what about free speech, well that's fine if you don't work for them, but if you do, it's written into your contract about social network postings. So if your thinking of applying here and you have any negative views, I suggest you think very carefully before posting here or on any other social web page.
As for answering the question
There are many FOs who are very happy with Qatar Airways and some of them actually love living in Doha. In the last 3 weeks, I have flown with 3 who have said this to me.
Most of the time, those posting on pprune have an axe to grind and are not mature enough to just shut up and deal with it ie get another job and move on.
Most people here are as happy as can be. It's just they have more important things to do than spend time here on pprune posting about it.
As for would I suggest you come here, depends on your circumstances.
If your a SO cadet coming through an MPL scheme, then I would say grab the opportunity with both hands. You would be stupid to let it pass. You will earn good money once out of training and have a great career future. Stick around and chances are you will be a Capatin 6-7 years after arriving. Also potential for fleet change to bigger aircraft if that's your goal in life.
If your coming from an operator that does not fly what we fly, then maybe it's a good career move in that you will get a rating on an aircraft that is popular around the world.
If you would rather stay in your home country and struggle to get a job or stay on a turbo prop until your made redundant, then good for you.
I suggest you come here for a few years and if your not happy, move on.
Should you get a chance at the MPL, grab it with both hands.
I have been here since 2010 320 fleet. Very happy with my job, not so happy about living here, but it's ok and it's simply where I work. Money is good, flying is good although hard work, staff travel is amazing. All the aircraft are well maintained and the culture here is safety first. They want you to do as your suppose to and nothing more, nothing less. It's very simple. Do your job, smile, go home. Days off are your time and many travel anywhere and everywhere on the days off.
Good luck to all
Regards BP
Qatar Airways does read this forum
Should you have any negative views regarding the place, the country or the company, be aware they will try and suss out who you are and identify you. They will take a very dim view of such post if you are an employee or someone who has applied.
You may say what about free speech, well that's fine if you don't work for them, but if you do, it's written into your contract about social network postings. So if your thinking of applying here and you have any negative views, I suggest you think very carefully before posting here or on any other social web page.
As for answering the question
There are many FOs who are very happy with Qatar Airways and some of them actually love living in Doha. In the last 3 weeks, I have flown with 3 who have said this to me.
Most of the time, those posting on pprune have an axe to grind and are not mature enough to just shut up and deal with it ie get another job and move on.
Most people here are as happy as can be. It's just they have more important things to do than spend time here on pprune posting about it.
As for would I suggest you come here, depends on your circumstances.
If your a SO cadet coming through an MPL scheme, then I would say grab the opportunity with both hands. You would be stupid to let it pass. You will earn good money once out of training and have a great career future. Stick around and chances are you will be a Capatin 6-7 years after arriving. Also potential for fleet change to bigger aircraft if that's your goal in life.
If your coming from an operator that does not fly what we fly, then maybe it's a good career move in that you will get a rating on an aircraft that is popular around the world.
If you would rather stay in your home country and struggle to get a job or stay on a turbo prop until your made redundant, then good for you.
I suggest you come here for a few years and if your not happy, move on.
Should you get a chance at the MPL, grab it with both hands.
I have been here since 2010 320 fleet. Very happy with my job, not so happy about living here, but it's ok and it's simply where I work. Money is good, flying is good although hard work, staff travel is amazing. All the aircraft are well maintained and the culture here is safety first. They want you to do as your suppose to and nothing more, nothing less. It's very simple. Do your job, smile, go home. Days off are your time and many travel anywhere and everywhere on the days off.
Good luck to all
Regards BP
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j4mi3... everyone is entitled to their own opinion regarding a place to work, a place to live etc. I'm not going to criticize your post or start singing the praises about Qatar telling you you're wrong and to come here.
However in all honesty Black Pudding has hit the nail on the head and a mate of mine is saying the same and has been encouraging me to come to Qatar for a long time. He's not necessarily talking about the country itself but the accommodation, roster, pay, aircraft etc. You mention accommodation but (as an example) I was in Dubai the other week... Is company accommodation at other airlines any better and is company accommodation available? Most of the time the company accommodation is not available anyway or people choose to stay elsewhere to be where they prefer or even to make money out of the allowance. Also just one more thing, you mention about cost of living... is it better to earn (let's say) £50k a year - a standard FO wage (or £100k if you're a Capt)... so around £4k or £8k a month in the UK? It's taxed, you have to pay your accommodation out of that.... or earn double in Qatar - it's tax free, the accommodation is paid (either way if you take company accommodation or the allowance - which should take care of the accommodation and some are even making money from it!). Food, utilities etc are not gonna cost you several thousand... so cost of living is not really a factor... you should think of how much you save after your expenses or 'net'.
I talk to colleagues about going to the ME all the time at my place as well as monitor these forums... some of the best advice people have said is that, in any country... you can either look at the positives or the negatives If you keep comparing it to your life back home, nobody would ever leave. At the end of the day, most people are in the Middle East to earn money, earn your money and if you need a 'UK' fix or fresh vegetables from time to time... go home to the UK, once/twice a month (which is possible with the roster and good staff travel as Black Pudding said, not to mention if you're flying a Type that goes to the UK) and just suck up the rest. It's up to you... but I presume you were just trying to get a balanced view as after all you are posting on a Public Forum.
All the best!
However in all honesty Black Pudding has hit the nail on the head and a mate of mine is saying the same and has been encouraging me to come to Qatar for a long time. He's not necessarily talking about the country itself but the accommodation, roster, pay, aircraft etc. You mention accommodation but (as an example) I was in Dubai the other week... Is company accommodation at other airlines any better and is company accommodation available? Most of the time the company accommodation is not available anyway or people choose to stay elsewhere to be where they prefer or even to make money out of the allowance. Also just one more thing, you mention about cost of living... is it better to earn (let's say) £50k a year - a standard FO wage (or £100k if you're a Capt)... so around £4k or £8k a month in the UK? It's taxed, you have to pay your accommodation out of that.... or earn double in Qatar - it's tax free, the accommodation is paid (either way if you take company accommodation or the allowance - which should take care of the accommodation and some are even making money from it!). Food, utilities etc are not gonna cost you several thousand... so cost of living is not really a factor... you should think of how much you save after your expenses or 'net'.
I talk to colleagues about going to the ME all the time at my place as well as monitor these forums... some of the best advice people have said is that, in any country... you can either look at the positives or the negatives If you keep comparing it to your life back home, nobody would ever leave. At the end of the day, most people are in the Middle East to earn money, earn your money and if you need a 'UK' fix or fresh vegetables from time to time... go home to the UK, once/twice a month (which is possible with the roster and good staff travel as Black Pudding said, not to mention if you're flying a Type that goes to the UK) and just suck up the rest. It's up to you... but I presume you were just trying to get a balanced view as after all you are posting on a Public Forum.
All the best!
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Interesting read this thread.
I work across the gulf under the tall building.
It is amazing how over the last 3-4yrs the posts have shifted between our 2 airlines. Almost a complete reversal. What guys are saying here now about QR is what they used to say about EK. And for that matter the pax as well.
But over here our leaders have been hell bent on driving this place downward spiral to who knows where?
It's great to see QR turned things around a bit and is not a bad place to be. Maybe there's hope for us yet here.
As we all know who reads this,perhaps YOU should take note. Small changes make a big difference.
I know where I would go if I was starting out and it wouldn't be here.
Good luck
I work across the gulf under the tall building.
It is amazing how over the last 3-4yrs the posts have shifted between our 2 airlines. Almost a complete reversal. What guys are saying here now about QR is what they used to say about EK. And for that matter the pax as well.
But over here our leaders have been hell bent on driving this place downward spiral to who knows where?
It's great to see QR turned things around a bit and is not a bad place to be. Maybe there's hope for us yet here.
As we all know who reads this,perhaps YOU should take note. Small changes make a big difference.
I know where I would go if I was starting out and it wouldn't be here.
Good luck
