If your a happy First Officer at Qatar Airways then please do inform me!
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If your a happy First Officer at Qatar Airways then please do inform me!
Dear Pilots,
I am writing this thread because I would like to request the happy First Officers at Qatar Airways to tell me how happy they are. Since i have been reading the threads here on QR, all i can see from pilots perspectives are unhappy (correction, more like miserable) posts written by pilots who make QR seem as though its the worst airline in the middle east.
However, an airline which has such a large fleet must have hundreds of pilots, of which a percentage amongst them read pprune, and therefore some amongst them must be happy to be working for QR (the happy bunch seems like a very quiet one though). So, i request the Qatar Airways First Officers who are happy to please speak up, and let the potentially new F/O's (like myself) for Qatar get an unbiased insight into how it is in the positive side.
Now, before someone starts writing negative comments or asks me to look at the other QR threads, i would like to reinstate that I have read ALL the other QR threads!.........so fellow pilots, no sarcasm please.
Your comments are much appreciated!
I am writing this thread because I would like to request the happy First Officers at Qatar Airways to tell me how happy they are. Since i have been reading the threads here on QR, all i can see from pilots perspectives are unhappy (correction, more like miserable) posts written by pilots who make QR seem as though its the worst airline in the middle east.
However, an airline which has such a large fleet must have hundreds of pilots, of which a percentage amongst them read pprune, and therefore some amongst them must be happy to be working for QR (the happy bunch seems like a very quiet one though). So, i request the Qatar Airways First Officers who are happy to please speak up, and let the potentially new F/O's (like myself) for Qatar get an unbiased insight into how it is in the positive side.
Now, before someone starts writing negative comments or asks me to look at the other QR threads, i would like to reinstate that I have read ALL the other QR threads!.........so fellow pilots, no sarcasm please.
Your comments are much appreciated!
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Dear MMS,
I would be very surprised if you get a positive feedback from one of our first officers that is here for longer than 2 years.Almost all of them are disappointed by this company.Even the ones that earn 5 times more than at home and got their types here don't like it.That says enough, I guess
RGDS.
G.L.
I would be very surprised if you get a positive feedback from one of our first officers that is here for longer than 2 years.Almost all of them are disappointed by this company.Even the ones that earn 5 times more than at home and got their types here don't like it.That says enough, I guess
RGDS.
G.L.
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oops...inflation in Qatar is expect to rise by 3% this year...so it means now around 17% inflation for 2008(number one in the gulf!),(no salary increase+devaluation of riyal)
.....For sure this news will bring more Happy F/O (and CPT) here...
MMS if you are not working for Q.A...think twice.
Seems that Ek increased the salary by more than 10%.(wich is the inflation rate in UAE..).So shall we expect an increase of 17% in Q.A...I doubt!
.....For sure this news will bring more Happy F/O (and CPT) here...MMS if you are not working for Q.A...think twice.
Seems that Ek increased the salary by more than 10%.(wich is the inflation rate in UAE..).So shall we expect an increase of 17% in Q.A...I doubt!
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You have read all the negative posts MMS?? The best are all deleted! Legal pressure apparently. How many airlines employ legal eagles to monitor anonymous internet posts? Sick culture.....
But then The Goat probably wouldn't have any First Officer recruits at all if gagged posts from the last 5 years were republished. That would actually be fun to watch eh? At every port, two Goat Captains flying together, sharing RHS duties.
If you have anything of value to offer the aviation industry MMS then the Goat is not the place for you.
But then The Goat probably wouldn't have any First Officer recruits at all if gagged posts from the last 5 years were republished. That would actually be fun to watch eh? At every port, two Goat Captains flying together, sharing RHS duties.
If you have anything of value to offer the aviation industry MMS then the Goat is not the place for you.
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Just one thing to say...
Happy people usually do not post on anonymous sites like PPrune...
Unhappy people on the contrary will do nothing else but post (In general anyway, Myself I try to reflect both sides of being a QR pilot)
Many pilots are happy at QR....
This does not mean all is swell and no problems remain to be adressed....Hell NO!
But not all is bad overhere.
And I certainly would not say EK or EY are any better as far as the companies are concerned. They all have their own and very typical problems.
Countrywise...well...thats a personal choice I would say.
Dubai.....Too busy and too fast paced
Abu Dhabi....somewhere in between two worlds, without a clear strategy and without ANY housing available.
Qatar.....well euhhhh what can I say! Nothing to do with a local population living a wild west mickey mouse dream of short lived wealth and superficial prsoperity.
But all three have their advantages as well and once you settle in (this goes for all three), many people stay for many years...
Happy people usually do not post on anonymous sites like PPrune...
Unhappy people on the contrary will do nothing else but post (In general anyway, Myself I try to reflect both sides of being a QR pilot)
Many pilots are happy at QR....
This does not mean all is swell and no problems remain to be adressed....Hell NO!
But not all is bad overhere.
And I certainly would not say EK or EY are any better as far as the companies are concerned. They all have their own and very typical problems.
Countrywise...well...thats a personal choice I would say.
Dubai.....Too busy and too fast paced
Abu Dhabi....somewhere in between two worlds, without a clear strategy and without ANY housing available.
Qatar.....well euhhhh what can I say! Nothing to do with a local population living a wild west mickey mouse dream of short lived wealth and superficial prsoperity.
But all three have their advantages as well and once you settle in (this goes for all three), many people stay for many years...
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Dear MMS
QR is great airline and yes it has a big potential !
Qatari people in general are good and nice .
QR has new nice big shiny airplanes !
Maintainance is good .
Salary is not so good but still better then some other places .
BUT PLZ DONT JOJN THE AILRLINE WHICH HAS :
TERMINATION DEPARTMENT
check 3 floor HR plate : termination departmant
Think 7 times not twice plz before you jojn.
QR could be the best airline in globe if litle terminatior is not around !
Qatari people in general are good and nice .
QR has new nice big shiny airplanes !
Maintainance is good .
Salary is not so good but still better then some other places .
BUT PLZ DONT JOJN THE AILRLINE WHICH HAS :
TERMINATION DEPARTMENT
check 3 floor HR plate : termination departmant
Think 7 times not twice plz before you jojn.
QR could be the best airline in globe if litle terminatior is not around !
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OK guys... I need to say this upfront to you guys
I go to the Emirates thread...i see a lotta bitching, I go to EY thread same story and guess what? I go to the QR thrread,, same bitching all over..
So we might as well go change career and do some fishing around
ppl plz post the goods of QR
thnx
I go to the Emirates thread...i see a lotta bitching, I go to EY thread same story and guess what? I go to the QR thrread,, same bitching all over..
So we might as well go change career and do some fishing around
ppl plz post the goods of QR
thnx
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EK,EY
I asked my friends in EK and EY and confirmed there is no TERMINATION DEPARTMENT .
Job security is 0 % in QR .
18 % inflation without pay rise
cabin crew reporting capt or F/O if they aske for juce or caffee and by the way if you are F/O and you get reported from anyone for anything masalama upgrade or fleet transfere and 2 warning letters its again TERMINATION
Qatar is country which you cant leave to go home without EXIT PERMIT and if you have ( traffic violation like red light or so you will be stopped at imigration untill you pay you cant go home )
GUYZ did they tell you THAT during intervew ?
command in 6-8 y becouse its done only on A320 and we have 435 F/Os
Job security is 0 % in QR .
18 % inflation without pay rise
cabin crew reporting capt or F/O if they aske for juce or caffee and by the way if you are F/O and you get reported from anyone for anything masalama upgrade or fleet transfere and 2 warning letters its again TERMINATION
Qatar is country which you cant leave to go home without EXIT PERMIT and if you have ( traffic violation like red light or so you will be stopped at imigration untill you pay you cant go home )
GUYZ did they tell you THAT during intervew ?
command in 6-8 y becouse its done only on A320 and we have 435 F/Os
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Positive side of QR is that we have 3800 single cabin crew !
O sorry i forgot to mention this 3800 are not alowed to leave ther eaccomodation 12 h before flight and if they are off they have to come back till 03 30 or TERMINATION department will have job to do
O sorry i forgot to mention this 3800 are not alowed to leave ther eaccomodation 12 h before flight and if they are off they have to come back till 03 30 or TERMINATION department will have job to do
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Qatari515:
Firstly thanks for your post, it was very informative. I totally agree that happy pilots do not make posts on sites such as pprune (this is a generalisation obviously). the first time i wrote a post about my current airline, and it was a very happy positive post, i got such a bashing from other pilots from my airline, i was literally shocked! Thus, i know exactly what you mean.I feel there are ppruners just waiting to bash the happy pilots sometimes!
My favourite comment from you was:
"and I certainly would not say EK or EY are any better as far as the companies are concerned."
This was a welcome comment for me because all i have read on here is otherwise!
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CEO PITA:
Your comments about the 3rd floor termination dept were..........mmmmmm........welll.....interesting to say the least, i didnt know that existed!
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Firstly thanks for your post, it was very informative. I totally agree that happy pilots do not make posts on sites such as pprune (this is a generalisation obviously). the first time i wrote a post about my current airline, and it was a very happy positive post, i got such a bashing from other pilots from my airline, i was literally shocked! Thus, i know exactly what you mean.I feel there are ppruners just waiting to bash the happy pilots sometimes!
My favourite comment from you was:
"and I certainly would not say EK or EY are any better as far as the companies are concerned."
This was a welcome comment for me because all i have read on here is otherwise!
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CEO PITA:
Your comments about the 3rd floor termination dept were..........mmmmmm........welll.....interesting to say the least, i didnt know that existed!
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Please can you tell me why asking for coffee or orange juice is a crime? i mean, what are we meant to drink then apart from our 1 litre water bottles?
and im supposing theres nothing wrong with pilots having J class or F class catering if the pax have not chosen it, and supposing the pilot does not want his crew meal? or is this a reportable crime too?
Please can you tell me why asking for coffee or orange juice is a crime? i mean, what are we meant to drink then apart from our 1 litre water bottles?
and im supposing theres nothing wrong with pilots having J class or F class catering if the pax have not chosen it, and supposing the pilot does not want his crew meal? or is this a reportable crime too?
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Capuchino ,dates,orange juce ,energizers,..... many more is forbiden .
Yea i was shocked when i went to 3 th floor and saw termination department just next to immigration department.
Only purser and R1 crew are alowed to enter cockpit other cabin crew is not alowed to enter cockpit in QR . ( thats QR CRM )
Pilots naw have to park car cross 2 busy roads and with some dust in between on temp. +46 C it will be nice walking 200m to operation building
If you dont have youre hat during walk around or youre jacket closed oops
its a WANRNING LETTER and guess what that stop you from any kinda promotion or transfere to other fleet.
And if you do a HARD landing which can happened to any of us oops you are suspended !!
In QR a cabin crew can not get married without CEOs permition . Can you imegine that ?? Am sure you are not comming from Myamar so it will not sound normal to you .
QR is good airline if all this restrictions are not there .
All this is not done by pilots management its done from a litle man with a big problem .
GMFO is great person A.J He would never do this he is reall Qatari
Yea i was shocked when i went to 3 th floor and saw termination department just next to immigration department.
Only purser and R1 crew are alowed to enter cockpit other cabin crew is not alowed to enter cockpit in QR . ( thats QR CRM )
Pilots naw have to park car cross 2 busy roads and with some dust in between on temp. +46 C it will be nice walking 200m to operation building
If you dont have youre hat during walk around or youre jacket closed oops
its a WANRNING LETTER and guess what that stop you from any kinda promotion or transfere to other fleet.
And if you do a HARD landing which can happened to any of us oops you are suspended !!
In QR a cabin crew can not get married without CEOs permition . Can you imegine that ?? Am sure you are not comming from Myamar so it will not sound normal to you .
QR is good airline if all this restrictions are not there .
All this is not done by pilots management its done from a litle man with a big problem .
GMFO is great person A.J He would never do this he is reall Qatari
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Termination department or..resignation departement...dont known how to call it?? With the number of resignation you have every year here, this department must be one of the busiest of the company...at least as busy as the recruitment department...