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**Pilot Shortage in the Middle East??**

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Old 31st Mar 2008, 03:36
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Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forwards and it raises a question on an individuals plannng and motivation.

Personally I'd like to see the doors opened for T/P pilots at least it would increase the depth of available pilots. The best T/P pilot has got to be better than the worst jet pilot that EK is hiring at the moment.
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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 03:25
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pilot shortage

i believe there is no shortage. i was looking for a job for two months but i couldnt find any. i have 6000 hrs with 8years of experience. most of the jobs are held by agents , and they are making money by our talents.the big surprise is , they tell you that they need JAA license in Europe . whether the license is ICAO, FAA , we know how to fly it.these people are creating arificial problems. and most companies are not treating pilots properly.for the moment , i decided to stay away from my beloved profession, and i am now enjoying life with my children and my wife. it is wonderful experience.all in all shortages are created bc of bad management of airlines.
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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 03:38
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they tell you that they need JAA license in Europe
That might be because....err... you DO!!
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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 03:53
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pilot shortage

dear sara

what i forgot to ask you in my previous remark is that , which airline is in shortage in middle east? they are not even hiring , their requiremnt and their selection process looks like a preparation to join NASA.anyways people are hired to make pilots life miserable .

forget it anyways.
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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 11:52
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If there is a pilot shortage, why am I sitting on my proverbial and not doing any flying on my month of reserve????

They have at least 40 - 50 guys on April reserve as well. How much flying is there really?

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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 12:40
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Hi Sarah88,

I'm just going to focus on your first question.

Well I don't think that there is shortage of talent in this region. As we all know so far west was leading aviation, so the focus point was there. From running the business even to investing in aviation training. And alongside that people there were persuaded to come to aviation field in order to have their businesses going and they did that by providing scholarships, cadet programs, grants, loans and so on. And even aviation enthusiasts (self-sponsored) knew that there is a market. And today's captains were cadets once upon time.

But now many researches have shown that Asia is going to be leading this industry in a few years. And the main economic development player is Middleast having India and China at the background. So, now it's time for Asian airlines to have those young aviation enthusiast sponsored; people who have dreamt of years becoming pilots, but couldn't any or other reason. And they have to do the capacity building, as those captains were cadets sometime, these cadets are going to be captains in coming years. People who are used to asian life style and many more factors which can reduce the costs in a long term prospect, than having expats in short term. And it seems that some airlines have already thought of this.

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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 13:41
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oz in dxb Your on your proverbial because the ULR FTLs were twiddled with and instead of 48 hr and 36 hour layovers we have these bug eyed turn arounds of 24 hours
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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 15:14
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uplock! where did you get the photo of me????!!!!

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Old 9th May 2008, 12:26
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Post BBC Middle East Business Report

Don't forget to watch the Middle East Business Report on BBC WORLD which airs tomorrow (Saturday) - They'll be looking at pilot shortages in the region.

Local times can be found on:
http://www.bbcworld.com/Pages/Programme.aspx?id=26
 
Old 9th May 2008, 22:03
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I would like to say how impressed i was when i heard of the Scheme the Government of Bahrain has came up with, to address the pilot shortage issue in the ME,

Bahrain Development Bank and Gulf Air, both owned by the government investment company called MUMTALAKAT, started to offer student loans for cadet pilots.
as we know that getting your flying license will cost know a days over 100,000$, which is a lot of money that not many can afford, just to get started.
with an interest rate of not more than 3.5% offered by the bank, they managed to attract more people to apply.
more locals are attracted to the job now with the new packages being offered.
the government is hoping to reach to a stage where they can export bahraini pilots to the rest of the region, by which they will be addressing 2 issues, 1- the pilot shortage for their own national carrier.
2- creating more jobs for their people.

I know this will not address the issue of experienced pilots but its a start.

you have to start somewhere to get the experiance.......
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Old 10th May 2008, 01:15
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Advise

Hello,I´m a southamerican pilot, in a shortlist in Qatar airways, actually I am upgrading to a captain in my company, not big, very safe but I thing not enough money ,also the country is deteriotating the lifestyle, security and taxes. ¿How good is go to qatar , and what are the Real perspectives for an expatriate ?
Thanks you
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Old 5th Feb 2009, 11:11
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my oh my have things changed in the region in less than a year.
notice that my post#27 re house of cards falling down.....uncanny accuracy.
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Old 5th Feb 2009, 12:03
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Date of hire 320plt thats the only fair merger
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Old 4th Mar 2009, 14:24
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pilot shortage

i am a saudi pilot,and found out after looking at most of the jobs here that the ops is mostly run by expats..the atitude towards the locals is not that good and it is very hard to get an interview
here is an example
one of the ops has a chief pilot, once he got the position he sent his carpenter son to flying school in jordan(his country) then brought him back as a first officer on an airbus 320 ..while they have dispatchers with 500 hours that they where told not to apply cause they will lose their job if they did..call nas and check on the story

thier is alot of that going on..you have a better chance as an expat than a local getting into the business
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