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Old 17th Nov 2007, 10:59
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EK Flight Deck Bunks

I fully realise that as a race we are getting larger each generation and seats in various methods of transportation are getting smaller (damn accountants!).

I didn't however realise that pilots are exempt this natural growth as the pilots bunks on the 777 are smaller in height to each and every other bunk in the rest area. It is just possible to sit upright in a cabin crew bunk but impossible in the pilots (unless you were a welsh miner in a previous life). That step up you take into the last 2 bunks is NOT reproduced in the ceiling!

Also, why do we have TV screens on pivoting arms that take off your kneecaps when positioned for viewing? Check out the cabin crews! 'loads a room'. Ridiculous design - 'place legs outside bunk, rotate screen into place leaving legs outside'.

Well thats what happens when you tell boeing you don't want that lovely flight dek crew rest area (thanks TC). The solution- fit one in at end above the galley. Smaller, noisier ... ****e.

17+ hrs to Houston in a coffin, all rest taken horizontally or in the P3/P4 seat, thanks EK but no thanks.

Why ddin't we get flight deck bunks in our ULR aircraft like PIA, Air India, Singapore etc ... cost apparently. Well nice to know how much we are valued and how serious they take flight safety! Add to that 24hr layovers for ULR flights and it's only time thats awaits us and a major incident.

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At Toulouse a few years ago on a delivery flight I did a tour of the Airbus mock-up facility and saw the various options available for our yet-to-be-built A345's. They ranged from the "Captain's cabin" with 1st class leather seat with inbuilt massage function, through the "mid-range" Lufthansa type and so on. Finally down the back of the hangar was the EK option - cheapest of the cheap - in the bulk hold. There was no entertainment fitted but obviously some braniac in the office in Dubai thought the best place for the microscopic flatscreen was on the far wall near your feet. Which means you need a telescopic vision and a neck that bends 90 degrees towards your chin to see it... Niiice.
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Old 18th Nov 2007, 10:54
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EK option is "Cheapest of the Cheap"? Don't believe it. At Etihad we don't
even have the microscopic flat screen. No bedding just a bussiness blanket and pillow. It can get cheaper, Just ask EY managemeny how
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Wiley's post, lifted from the other 'crew rest' thread pretty well says it all.
We all love to shoot down in flames Hollywood's spin on all things Aviation whenever we're ever exposed to it in a theatre because it's almost always patently ridiculous and so highly unlikely to happen, it's totally unrealistic to anyone with a modicum of knowledge about the way things are really done. The fact is, almost none of the 'high drama' situations we see on screen in Aviation-related movies are even remotely likely to happen because very smart men who've been flying aeroplanes a very long time have foreseen almost every potentially dangerous situation Hollywood loves to portray and put in place very clever procedures that usually nip any such problems in the bud before they can develop into anything even remotely dramatic.

However, given the situation we now have in EK with the sole captain for hours on end situated about as far from the flight deck as he can possibly be and still be inside the pressure hull, (and on the 777, even further than that, as he has doubled back once up in the roof, and almost on all fours, gone ***ing forward again almost half the length of the Economy cabin!), I can't help but smile at the thought of how those creative scriptwriters could jack up the tension to the point of farce without even having to delve into the faintly ridiculous.

Can you picture Bruce Willis (or should that be Leslie Neilson?) in his powder blue, four-barred pyjamas making his way forward through the teeming hordes in cattle class as all 300 of them sit calmly (NOT!) in their seats during a major emergency? The screenwriters could stretch his journey out for two reels and three walkaround oxy bottles before he even reaches the Business Class cabin.
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I guess TC had our best interests at heart when he decided on this.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 09:05
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It is a pity that TC / A Al / Sqeely and Mr Ed have never tested out the bunks to see what spending 6hrs+ in them is like................if they did things may have changed!!!
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As Wiley says, I'd really hate to see some poor sod have to make his way to the front through the rubber jungle after an explosive decompression if he was the only captain on board. Particularly if the poor sod was me!!!!
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