War and Rumours of War
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War and Rumours of War
Oil drying up, climate change? Another domesday poker game is being played here in the gulf, yet we all ignore it.
The French twice failed to notice the polished jackboot on their border. How remarkable then when last week the French Prime Minister stated: "the west should prepare for war with Iran". Very strange thing to just blurt out. What motive? Deliberate gaff? What does he know, but cannot tell???
Ponder these questions:
1. To what type of conflict does the Prime Minister refer? Land invasion, aerial dismemberment or unconventional mass destruction?
2. How long will it last?
3. Which Gulf states are likely to cop a volley of scuds?
4. Does the airline you work for have a workable plan to relocate families of staff?
5. What plans have you made for your family?
And please dont tell me it will never happen. One thing be sure of, humans just love to fight. Especially around here.
The French twice failed to notice the polished jackboot on their border. How remarkable then when last week the French Prime Minister stated: "the west should prepare for war with Iran". Very strange thing to just blurt out. What motive? Deliberate gaff? What does he know, but cannot tell???
Ponder these questions:
1. To what type of conflict does the Prime Minister refer? Land invasion, aerial dismemberment or unconventional mass destruction?
2. How long will it last?
3. Which Gulf states are likely to cop a volley of scuds?
4. Does the airline you work for have a workable plan to relocate families of staff?
5. What plans have you made for your family?
And please dont tell me it will never happen. One thing be sure of, humans just love to fight. Especially around here.
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Doubt a war with Iran will come to pass. Everyone here has too much to lose.
According to the guys who were here during the first Gulf war, EK did f#@% all for the families. Some other companies chartered aircraft and moved all their people if I can remember right.
Guess I don't care bcos my mob never moved here - but don't tell EK that I like my villa
According to the guys who were here during the first Gulf war, EK did f#@% all for the families. Some other companies chartered aircraft and moved all their people if I can remember right.
Guess I don't care bcos my mob never moved here - but don't tell EK that I like my villa
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Fearless leader - absolutely agree with you. It was just the style of the posting that I thought was astoundingly nerdy. Anyway I'm bored and easily irritated at the moment
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"Black Stain" 
Obviously this post is out of place and if the middle east history and politics matter so much to you i suggest you do some more reading about it to better understand the conflict that has been troubling this region for the past thousands of years if not more.
Its always easy to repeat what other people say without taking a moment to think about things for yourself, and if you truly understand half the conflicts in this part of the world you would not be writing something like that to start with.
And IF its emergency EVAC you’re so worried about and have so many questions, pprune or any airline infact is not the place to run your questions by, I suggest you run your questions by your local embassy.
I mean come on what can the airlines do? Do you really think they should have a plan for every single possible situation? Do other major airline carriers across the world give you answers to the questions you just asked? Ah or sorry maybe because the middle east region is so
up that you do need these answers. Like I’ve said to a lot of people in this part of the world before, no one is holding you by the hand and forcing you to be here, you don’t like it or think it’s such an unsafe place to be in, its easy just leave.
I feel sorry for people with this kind of attitude always trying to find the negative in every single situation.
You have no idea how this region is no one will be able to comprehend the fact that its way more complex than what it really seems like to be, there are so many outside forces and factors playing into effect with the shaping of this region.
I’ve been living in this part of the world for almost 18yrs now, and I’ve seen and heard more than most people will in a lifetime about these countries, but i wont go out repeating things i heard without understanding the situation first.
I’m not saying it’s the greatest of all places, but I could name a thousand other places that are a million times worse.
Safe flying…
Obviously this post is out of place and if the middle east history and politics matter so much to you i suggest you do some more reading about it to better understand the conflict that has been troubling this region for the past thousands of years if not more.
Its always easy to repeat what other people say without taking a moment to think about things for yourself, and if you truly understand half the conflicts in this part of the world you would not be writing something like that to start with.
And IF its emergency EVAC you’re so worried about and have so many questions, pprune or any airline infact is not the place to run your questions by, I suggest you run your questions by your local embassy.
I mean come on what can the airlines do? Do you really think they should have a plan for every single possible situation? Do other major airline carriers across the world give you answers to the questions you just asked? Ah or sorry maybe because the middle east region is so
up that you do need these answers. Like I’ve said to a lot of people in this part of the world before, no one is holding you by the hand and forcing you to be here, you don’t like it or think it’s such an unsafe place to be in, its easy just leave.I feel sorry for people with this kind of attitude always trying to find the negative in every single situation.
You have no idea how this region is no one will be able to comprehend the fact that its way more complex than what it really seems like to be, there are so many outside forces and factors playing into effect with the shaping of this region.
I’ve been living in this part of the world for almost 18yrs now, and I’ve seen and heard more than most people will in a lifetime about these countries, but i wont go out repeating things i heard without understanding the situation first.
I’m not saying it’s the greatest of all places, but I could name a thousand other places that are a million times worse.
Safe flying…
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I must admit I was very surprised by the French outburst but totally agree with it. What surprises me is that the French and their hangers on always disagree venimently about going into action to avoid a larger problem in the future, if nothing is done. Self interest comes to mind.
Let's face it, the French played host to the Ayatollah, that led to the down fall of the Shar.
If things do go pear shaped I don't think you lot in the sand pit will get much notice to get the hell out.
Let's face it, the French played host to the Ayatollah, that led to the down fall of the Shar.
If things do go pear shaped I don't think you lot in the sand pit will get much notice to get the hell out.
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Guys,
If you are worrying about it then you had better get the hell out as soon as you can. You may end up in panick mode if it ever happens.
As in the previous suprises, they will not give you much warning and be prepared next to f all help
If you are worrying about it then you had better get the hell out as soon as you can. You may end up in panick mode if it ever happens.
As in the previous suprises, they will not give you much warning and be prepared next to f
all help
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I have to agree with the croc. The US are deadly serious about taking out any potential nuclear weapon facility in Iran. If they don't attend to it, Israel will (only about 2 weeks ago Syria faced the reality of this). The new French president has aligned himself more to the US attitude on Iran but I think a large amount of what he said is to make Iran 'wake-up' to what might be on the cards. As far as the rest of the gulf is concerned, like the gulf wars of recent times it would certainly be extremely unsettling if your living in the region. Hopefully none of this will happen but it is a very real possibility in my opinion.
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No you won't get any help from the various embassies either, as they only think of themselves first in an emergency situation. Seen it at first hand and talk about rats off a sinking ship!
No you won't get any help from the various embassies either, as they only think of themselves first in an emergency situation. Seen it at first hand and talk about rats off a sinking ship!
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'Not on my watch' is reportedly what the current US JCS Admiral William Fallon said about another Bush inspired folly in the ME. He recently also refused the executives request to send another Carrier group into the region as it would unnessecarily escalate the situation in the Gulf.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/II14Ak02.html
I also think the GCC, which has substantial trade and cultural ties with Iran, would not be keen to allow the US to use their bases to attack Iran.
Lets hope for everybodies sake that sanity prevails, both the Iranians and the
Americans step back from the brink (a la Cuban Crisis)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/II14Ak02.html
I also think the GCC, which has substantial trade and cultural ties with Iran, would not be keen to allow the US to use their bases to attack Iran.
Lets hope for everybodies sake that sanity prevails, both the Iranians and the
Americans step back from the brink (a la Cuban Crisis)
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"GOOD GOD" Boys and Girls
Maybe you should be part of the foreign policy team of your respective countries, and spare us poor pleebs here on pprune.
You all collectively know sooo! much more than the professionals that actually do the actual talking. (NOT).
Give it up for the sake of the rest of us who actually DO care!!!!
FL.
You all collectively know sooo! much more than the professionals that actually do the actual talking. (NOT).
Give it up for the sake of the rest of us who actually DO care!!!!
FL.
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Fearless Leader,
Just gone over your previous posts. Nice trolling, just enough insulting not to go overboard but enough to insult people. One question though, why so few posts, mummy restricting you computer access.
I had a good response to you, but after reading your previous posts, I figure you're not worth it.
Just gone over your previous posts. Nice trolling, just enough insulting not to go overboard but enough to insult people. One question though, why so few posts, mummy restricting you computer access.
I had a good response to you, but after reading your previous posts, I figure you're not worth it.
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Seems many here are a bit sensitive about their colourful history.
And if the Prime Minister is right, what will happen to the value of your gulf stocks? What about your property investment on the Pearl or the Palm? What about your career, difficult to relocate in a ruined job market?
I quoted a well informed european politician, his statement may just turn out to be the most important advice you ever ignored.
But dont worry, there will always be jobs here for date pickers and fishermen.
And if the Prime Minister is right, what will happen to the value of your gulf stocks? What about your property investment on the Pearl or the Palm? What about your career, difficult to relocate in a ruined job market?
I quoted a well informed european politician, his statement may just turn out to be the most important advice you ever ignored.
But dont worry, there will always be jobs here for date pickers and fishermen.
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I'm assuming that either you do not live in this region or you lead a very sheltered life. Who gives a **** what some Eurpean politician says -- hey, I pay even less attention to American politicians. But the point is, most of the posters (I would say upwards of 95%) on this forum are expats. So how can they do the date picking?
One question, are you American?
I'm assuming that either you do not live in this region or you lead a very sheltered life. Who gives a **** what some Eurpean politician says -- hey, I pay even less attention to American politicians. But the point is, most of the posters (I would say upwards of 95%) on this forum are expats. So how can they do the date picking?
One question, are you American?
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I think many of you guys live in DXB, nothing to worry about over there. But some of us live just down the road from one of the biggest targets in the gulf and anything thrown that way must first fly over our villas 
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And I dont think this war, if it eventuates, will have a slow build up that even slow farmer Brown would notice. The Jews will kick it off and then it will be on. Quiet to chaos in a day, but then over in a week or two. But even quick wars tend to scare away tourists and investors.
.And I dont think this war, if it eventuates, will have a slow build up that even slow farmer Brown would notice. The Jews will kick it off and then it will be on. Quiet to chaos in a day, but then over in a week or two. But even quick wars tend to scare away tourists and investors.
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First thing: it is not a prime minister statement, but the foreign affair one.
Second: he regreted his words and is not a war pro
Third: he's not the one who decides for such things
In addition, France doesn't have any available carrier for at least a year, and doesn't have an army able to conduct a war in other places than ex-colonies in Africa.
If you believe that Iran is exactly the way it is shown in western medias, then i'd better stop my comments, useless for you.
I'd just say that there's only one country that may have an interrest in such a war: the US. They brought logisitics in ME for more than 15 years and are stuck in Irak. The way out for such a volume is at very high costs, and the best solution would be to move the troops on the ground to some nearby country. Since KSA doesn't want them anymore, I'd say that escapes ar either in Iran or Syria... and surprisingly they are shown as very bad guys for quite a while by now (you'll see what will happen regarding elections in Lebanon...)
France never needed a war to run it's economy, not like the US... but anyway, why would people stay there if not confortable ? is it just about $$$$ ?
Second: he regreted his words and is not a war pro
Third: he's not the one who decides for such things
In addition, France doesn't have any available carrier for at least a year, and doesn't have an army able to conduct a war in other places than ex-colonies in Africa.
If you believe that Iran is exactly the way it is shown in western medias, then i'd better stop my comments, useless for you.
I'd just say that there's only one country that may have an interrest in such a war: the US. They brought logisitics in ME for more than 15 years and are stuck in Irak. The way out for such a volume is at very high costs, and the best solution would be to move the troops on the ground to some nearby country. Since KSA doesn't want them anymore, I'd say that escapes ar either in Iran or Syria... and surprisingly they are shown as very bad guys for quite a while by now (you'll see what will happen regarding elections in Lebanon...)
France never needed a war to run it's economy, not like the US... but anyway, why would people stay there if not confortable ? is it just about $$$$ ?