London Heathrow - whats going on
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London Heathrow - whats going on
Hi to all
Just wondering if anyone was aware what is actually going on in Heathrow?
MY sources inform me that if you think Bahrain politics is bad then look at Heathrow
Still in debate to get transferred!! any advice or is Heathrow a lost cause??
Just wondering if anyone was aware what is actually going on in Heathrow?
MY sources inform me that if you think Bahrain politics is bad then look at Heathrow
Still in debate to get transferred!! any advice or is Heathrow a lost cause??
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Um, as someone who is based there here are a few of my opinions on LHR....its too small.....its old and delapedated (how do you spell that?).... Its "British" (Dont mean that in a bad sense....just mean that the Brits are not very good at admitting when they have cocked things up).... its been sold to a bunch of Spanish who have interests elsewhere so dont really care.... its been treated as a shopping Mall instead of an airport.....the owners have the monopoly on all the major London and UK airports so improvement is not a priority....
The list is endless really!!!!
The list is endless really!!!!
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-well said apaddyinuk......
Travelled through last week and security is a joke, I appreciate the need for extra checks but what a mess, any way xeniawarriorprincess you sound like you may be preparing to go into battle,.....tell us more what is exactly going on at heathrow? What do we need to know
Travelled through last week and security is a joke, I appreciate the need for extra checks but what a mess, any way xeniawarriorprincess you sound like you may be preparing to go into battle,.....tell us more what is exactly going on at heathrow? What do we need to know
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Have been offered a position in LHR with an airline, more money, higher position.
Im aware of the constant problems with the airport itself but was meaning more in terms of the management - the running of the station - or should I say lack of running
Capt Birdseye jnr - I have too much to write regarding the rumours and not sure if the content of the information will cause this thread to disappear....
DukePhantom - frm wot i hear its not great, but would like clarification.
Obviously no info. from anyone then? so many hits not alot to say
Im aware of the constant problems with the airport itself but was meaning more in terms of the management - the running of the station - or should I say lack of running
Capt Birdseye jnr - I have too much to write regarding the rumours and not sure if the content of the information will cause this thread to disappear....
DukePhantom - frm wot i hear its not great, but would like clarification.
Obviously no info. from anyone then? so many hits not alot to say
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Xena, if its a job you want go for it. Working at LHR is actually a lot of fun...lets put it this way.... You never know whats going to happen on any given day at LHR so it can be very interesting!!!! Also there are some great characters all around LHR who you will no doubt be working with. Dont be put off by the airport.
In March T5 opens up so most of the BA operation will transfer there freeing up space around a lot of the other terminals making things marginally more bearable . Then T2 will be demolished to create the new LHR East terminal which hopefully by 2010 will make LHR a more modern airport so things are gradually changing for the better.
I left QR for BA and although I was initially based in LGW (Great airport to work out of) I have been LHR based for 2 years and have not looked back. Also chances are if you are working for an airline, you will only ever see the inside of your report centre and rarely venture into the terminals!
In March T5 opens up so most of the BA operation will transfer there freeing up space around a lot of the other terminals making things marginally more bearable . Then T2 will be demolished to create the new LHR East terminal which hopefully by 2010 will make LHR a more modern airport so things are gradually changing for the better.
I left QR for BA and although I was initially based in LGW (Great airport to work out of) I have been LHR based for 2 years and have not looked back. Also chances are if you are working for an airline, you will only ever see the inside of your report centre and rarely venture into the terminals!
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Xena when you speak of `running of the station` what do you mean?
Would also suggest that if you want more info you would need to get off the middle east thread and start a UK one.......then possibly you would get more feedback....
Would also suggest that if you want more info you would need to get off the middle east thread and start a UK one.......then possibly you would get more feedback....
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apaddyinuk - thanks for your info, there is light at the end of the tunnel for LHR
Capt Birdseye jnr - the reason i havnt posted or started thread for UK is because I work for a Middle Eastern Airline, and its not Emirates of Etihad...thinks thats enough clues!!
Anyhow, as our hub is the Middle East, decisions are made by our hub therefore rumours/informaiton lay their regarding all the outstations.
Rumours are the stations at LHR is a mess, is this due to the departure of the old airport manager? only the staff can answer that I suppose. It is very hard to get an honest answer from anyone especially senior management when there are so many corrupt people, think I do need a transfer, a transfer out of this company!! I wish, bills to pay and family to support
Capt Birdseye jnr - the reason i havnt posted or started thread for UK is because I work for a Middle Eastern Airline, and its not Emirates of Etihad...thinks thats enough clues!!
Anyhow, as our hub is the Middle East, decisions are made by our hub therefore rumours/informaiton lay their regarding all the outstations.
Rumours are the stations at LHR is a mess, is this due to the departure of the old airport manager? only the staff can answer that I suppose. It is very hard to get an honest answer from anyone especially senior management when there are so many corrupt people, think I do need a transfer, a transfer out of this company!! I wish, bills to pay and family to support
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This princess lady would have received a much quicker response if she had asked a clear question.
From her last post it's obvious she plans to apply for the Heathrow Airport Manager job for Gulf Air which I understand has been vacant for some time. So why not say so? "What's going on at Heathrow?" (her original question) is hardly going to get her the answers she seeks.
Based on that alarming lack of clarity I would suggest that she is totally unqualified to manage an airport operation or anything else for that matter.
From her last post it's obvious she plans to apply for the Heathrow Airport Manager job for Gulf Air which I understand has been vacant for some time. So why not say so? "What's going on at Heathrow?" (her original question) is hardly going to get her the answers she seeks.
Based on that alarming lack of clarity I would suggest that she is totally unqualified to manage an airport operation or anything else for that matter.
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Dear Wapses
Let me guess, you are over 50 and cannot understand ‘slang’ you obviously not with the times and MUST be retired. As for your comment regarding APM, if that is true I would be careful – I have my resources and believe to know who you are!
Anyhow, what qualifies you to determine IF I am qualified or not. Could we be slightly bitter!!
You obviously doubt your own abilities and from your converse I can guarantee that you will never achieve or uphold a management position let alone be respected…
HAVE A NICE DAY!
Let me guess, you are over 50 and cannot understand ‘slang’ you obviously not with the times and MUST be retired. As for your comment regarding APM, if that is true I would be careful – I have my resources and believe to know who you are!
Anyhow, what qualifies you to determine IF I am qualified or not. Could we be slightly bitter!!
You obviously doubt your own abilities and from your converse I can guarantee that you will never achieve or uphold a management position let alone be respected…
HAVE A NICE DAY!
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Hi Xena,
Just a heads up....
If you are looking to live within commuting distance of LHR the traffic is hell most of the time with the price of gas through the roof; and as for accomodation, shoe box is going to cost you about the same as the GDP of a small Latin American country.....
I hope it works out for you, good luck!!!
Just a heads up....
If you are looking to live within commuting distance of LHR the traffic is hell most of the time with the price of gas through the roof; and as for accomodation, shoe box is going to cost you about the same as the GDP of a small Latin American country.....
I hope it works out for you, good luck!!!
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Sorry, you've lost me. Must be my age. What slang exactly is it that I don't understand?
First you ask a very general question about what's going on at Heathrow. That's like asking what's going on at Kennedy. It's an enormous airport employing thousands of people. There's always a million things going on.
Then we find out you've been offered a job there by a gulf airline, not EK or EY, whose airport manager has left. You talk about Bahraini politics in one post. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the airline is GF.
So, my point is that what you've obviously been wanting to establish is what is going on with GF at Heathrow so that you can make a decision about transferring. If you'd been more specific with your first question you'd have received maybe some specific answers.
From which I've deduced that there is a lack of clarity in your questioning and therefore you're probably not qualified to manage such an operation.
However in my doddery, over-50, retired state it is just possible that the clarity hidden away in your original question escaped me.
G'day.
Sorry, you've lost me. Must be my age. What slang exactly is it that I don't understand?
First you ask a very general question about what's going on at Heathrow. That's like asking what's going on at Kennedy. It's an enormous airport employing thousands of people. There's always a million things going on.
Then we find out you've been offered a job there by a gulf airline, not EK or EY, whose airport manager has left. You talk about Bahraini politics in one post. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the airline is GF.
So, my point is that what you've obviously been wanting to establish is what is going on with GF at Heathrow so that you can make a decision about transferring. If you'd been more specific with your first question you'd have received maybe some specific answers.
From which I've deduced that there is a lack of clarity in your questioning and therefore you're probably not qualified to manage such an operation.
However in my doddery, over-50, retired state it is just possible that the clarity hidden away in your original question escaped me.
G'day.
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Having read and re-read this post, I am in agreement with Warpes that the question should have been more specific, i.e got an airport managers job at LHR - do I take it or not ?
For my pennies worth, the old GF manager at LHR was a bit of a crook and treated his staff like s***t. Heard he was summoned to BAH and asked to resign before being sacked - off course someone forgot to mention to BN that this guy was on a UK contract and protected by UK employment law, so it all got very messy. Latest I heard was that GF will have to pay this guy off to avoid GF being sued for unlawful dismissal.
Back to LHR.
There's GF and then there's LHR.
GF ground staff on the whole are OK. Like most places a mix bag of good and able staff and those who don't care. You'll be looking after 2 flights per day once MCT is stopped.
LHR - well T5 opens next march and then there's the moving around of airlines between terminals. Heard GF is going to T4, which will be interesting as they get a lot of pax from AA who are staying in the central terminal areas, so you can imagine the lost bags and missing pax hassles.
Next 3-4 years at LHR is going to be one big building site as they pull down T1/T2 and build a new terminal.
Good luck.
For my pennies worth, the old GF manager at LHR was a bit of a crook and treated his staff like s***t. Heard he was summoned to BAH and asked to resign before being sacked - off course someone forgot to mention to BN that this guy was on a UK contract and protected by UK employment law, so it all got very messy. Latest I heard was that GF will have to pay this guy off to avoid GF being sued for unlawful dismissal.
Back to LHR.
There's GF and then there's LHR.
GF ground staff on the whole are OK. Like most places a mix bag of good and able staff and those who don't care. You'll be looking after 2 flights per day once MCT is stopped.
LHR - well T5 opens next march and then there's the moving around of airlines between terminals. Heard GF is going to T4, which will be interesting as they get a lot of pax from AA who are staying in the central terminal areas, so you can imagine the lost bags and missing pax hassles.
Next 3-4 years at LHR is going to be one big building site as they pull down T1/T2 and build a new terminal.
Good luck.
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left_to_first_class-If this is true about the ex Manager being a crook and s**t to his staff he should have fitted GF Management criteria -so why did he go????
The problem nowadays is the minute you become a successful manager you set your self up to be critisized and will always be a target for staff members who realise they will never achieve anything in their sad little lives so take great pride in attacking those who are successful.
One thing is sure, some people hold serious grudges and never let go-to the point where it eats at their souls and they become bitter and twisted.
left_to_first_class like you I too have my informants-they tell me he was set up by a few chosen staff (bitter and twisted spring to mind) at LHR who wanted him out and were willing to do anything to suceed, and with a bit of help from someone in H/O (assistant to the CEO no less) they were sucesful, and in his place they place an ex lover of his!!!!!(assistant to the ceo that is!!) who just happens to be working there!!!!
Guess he owed her a big favour
....Hey believe what you will....but its the latest hot gossip here in Bahrain.
And good luck to the ex Manager let him sue the arse off GF !!!!!!!!
Xena-take a look at the thread `What happened to Hesh`-this will give you a guide to the current senior management and how they do business
then make your mind up....Good Luck
The problem nowadays is the minute you become a successful manager you set your self up to be critisized and will always be a target for staff members who realise they will never achieve anything in their sad little lives so take great pride in attacking those who are successful.
One thing is sure, some people hold serious grudges and never let go-to the point where it eats at their souls and they become bitter and twisted.
left_to_first_class like you I too have my informants-they tell me he was set up by a few chosen staff (bitter and twisted spring to mind) at LHR who wanted him out and were willing to do anything to suceed, and with a bit of help from someone in H/O (assistant to the CEO no less) they were sucesful, and in his place they place an ex lover of his!!!!!(assistant to the ceo that is!!) who just happens to be working there!!!!
Guess he owed her a big favour
....Hey believe what you will....but its the latest hot gossip here in Bahrain.And good luck to the ex Manager let him sue the arse off GF !!!!!!!!
Xena-take a look at the thread `What happened to Hesh`-this will give you a guide to the current senior management and how they do business
then make your mind up....Good Luck
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Capt Birdseye Jnr - the plot thickens 
Yeah you are probably right being a crook and s**h probably fits the GF management critera these days, but he went in May, when AD and his side-kick HRH Hesh ruled the roost.
I heard that there were a few complaints made from his staff, and also heard that he was not able to see these complaints when summoned in front of BN - so will agree with you that he was most likely set-up and BN obviously took advice from a certain Hesh (remember he was in London Sales messing it up).
You sure the current acting LHR manager was Hesh's bit on the side. Bit old for him if you get my drift and having seen Hesh in action, he prefers the young un's.
Yeah you are probably right being a crook and s**h probably fits the GF management critera these days, but he went in May, when AD and his side-kick HRH Hesh ruled the roost.
I heard that there were a few complaints made from his staff, and also heard that he was not able to see these complaints when summoned in front of BN - so will agree with you that he was most likely set-up and BN obviously took advice from a certain Hesh (remember he was in London Sales messing it up).
You sure the current acting LHR manager was Hesh's bit on the side. Bit old for him if you get my drift and having seen Hesh in action, he prefers the young un's.
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Groundaphobic - thanks for the info, I have a great package suprisingly which consists of good accomm.
left_to_first_class- point taken, the hat goes off and the white flag flies, apologies that my questions was vague. Under the certain circumstances in LHR & BAH all staff would agree things are not healthy and anonymity is preferred - opps!
Thank you for your input, most helpful...moving on, Capt. Your comments are exactly what I have heard, this makes me very weary but lucky for me I have dealt with worse
left_to_first_class- point taken, the hat goes off and the white flag flies, apologies that my questions was vague. Under the certain circumstances in LHR & BAH all staff would agree things are not healthy and anonymity is preferred - opps!
Thank you for your input, most helpful...moving on, Capt. Your comments are exactly what I have heard, this makes me very weary but lucky for me I have dealt with worse
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SALAM
I have had to sign up to this website, as it is causing such commotion at Heathrow.
Though I am not based at Heathrow I do have good friends their as I visit regualry due to my daughter being in University in the UK.
Capt. Birdseye, your comments are true, the old APM was sacked, BN was unaware of him holding UK contract - silly man. This will cost GF a lot of money, UK law is extremely strict and if taken to a Employment Tribunal it will be beyond belief! The 'acting' APM, she is out of her depth, my contact tells me she is holding on by a thread, he believes she was behind the sacking of old APM. This is called KARMA?? .Insha'Allah. It was noted that she has had flings in the past with other managment. How else did she get the position as their are move capable staff then she.
Xena W.P, I am a little skeptical to believe you may be new APM, the reason being is that old APM has not be finished strong word is that he may return. Maybe you sohuld clear that up before signing a contract - one question, after hearing all the above do you really want to go into this position 1.) holding a BAH contract and 2.) with these sort of people?
Xena Men ayna anti? hal tatakallamo alloghah al arabiah?
I have been told that some long serving staff, some senior some not, have been their too long and are sly. Watch out. They will follow the crowd as to who has the power, one lady in particular. But everyone is aware of her and her capabilities. She is transparent.
Ma as-salaamah
I have had to sign up to this website, as it is causing such commotion at Heathrow.
Though I am not based at Heathrow I do have good friends their as I visit regualry due to my daughter being in University in the UK.
Capt. Birdseye, your comments are true, the old APM was sacked, BN was unaware of him holding UK contract - silly man. This will cost GF a lot of money, UK law is extremely strict and if taken to a Employment Tribunal it will be beyond belief! The 'acting' APM, she is out of her depth, my contact tells me she is holding on by a thread, he believes she was behind the sacking of old APM. This is called KARMA?? .Insha'Allah. It was noted that she has had flings in the past with other managment. How else did she get the position as their are move capable staff then she.
Xena W.P, I am a little skeptical to believe you may be new APM, the reason being is that old APM has not be finished strong word is that he may return. Maybe you sohuld clear that up before signing a contract - one question, after hearing all the above do you really want to go into this position 1.) holding a BAH contract and 2.) with these sort of people?
Xena Men ayna anti? hal tatakallamo alloghah al arabiah?
I have been told that some long serving staff, some senior some not, have been their too long and are sly. Watch out. They will follow the crowd as to who has the power, one lady in particular. But everyone is aware of her and her capabilities. She is transparent.
Ma as-salaamah
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Malik a' Sahra, motasharefon bema'refatek. ana atakallam arabi.
Thank you for your advice. Can you tell me any more in terms of the situation regarding staff shortages?
Shuk 'ran.
Thank you for your advice. Can you tell me any more in terms of the situation regarding staff shortages?
Shuk 'ran.