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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 10th May 2020, 13:58
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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There is more to this story and I am not going to divulge it on a public forum. They are well within their rights to do this. Needless to say it seems an isolated case as I know of no pilot redundancies here.
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Old 10th May 2020, 14:12
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Doha
Age: 9
Posts: 435
Anyway, back to the main subject. I doubt there will be any recruitment for the foreseeable future. Hopefully we will be back busy flying again and the recruitment pages will be advertising for pilots. I don’t see that happening for a while.
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Old 10th May 2020, 15:24
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: World
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I don't mean to defend the company at all, but it would appear that the person to whom that letter was sent to had finished the whole CPL/IR training, type rating as well, but never started line training by her own decision cause she got married, her husband didnít want her to fly, she asked for an office job but was declined, and she never flew a single line sector in her life.
All of this after being sponsored by the company.

Not entirely surprised they are asking for the training money back. Actually surprised they didn't do it sooner than 6,5 years.
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Old 12th May 2020, 00:22
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Rockytop, Tennessee, USA
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Originally Posted by FlyingAce77 View Post
Cabin Crews are going in numbers” even those who are stuck outstation, I see Pilot redundancies coming unfortunately... No department is immune to this downsizing- It will be all of a sudden.
A report on the cabin crew redundancies:

How many crew Qatar Airways is laying off

While this is still subject to change, it’s my understanding that Qatar Airways will lay off over 5,000 of their 13,000+ cabin crew, including:
  • 350 Cabin Service Directors
  • 650 Cabin Seniors
  • 2,000 First & Business Class Crew
  • 2,200 Economy Class Crew
Those are some massive layoffs, and makes you wonder what exactly Qatar Airways’ fleet plans are, given what a modern fleet they have. It’s not like they have that many old planes to retire.

How Qatar Airways is going about layoffs

At airlines with unions there’s typically a straightforward process for layoffs, as it’s ordinarily based on seniority. How is Qatar Airways handling layoffs, as a non-unionized airline?

As of now the plan is apparently to lay off the following:
  • New crew that haven’t yet completed training
  • Crew that have been at the airline for less than six months
  • Crew that are currently outside of Qatar due to entry restrictions
  • Crew that have been at the airline for 15+ years
https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-air...or-cabin-crew/

Obviously, without a union (and even with one under the British system) pilots may be laid off out of seniority order e.g. by seat and fleet and more expensive senior pilots may be the first to go in some cases.
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Old 13th May 2020, 19:36
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: USA
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AAB says 20% of Employees will be laid off out of 45000 which is 9000 and 50 Aircrafts will retire giving an Interview to BBC World.
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Old 14th May 2020, 15:18
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Is this true?

You are no longer required, hereís a £130,000 bill
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Old 14th May 2020, 16:56
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Originally Posted by gearlever View Post
It seems to be. She's trying to pull a runner after taking years to complete the training and then deciding that she doesn't want to be a pilot. Most places in the Middle East will come after you for a training bond if you don't complete the obligated service from what I've seen over the years.

As a local and a female she will argue that she's a protected species and can't be sacked for cause. She's appealed to the media for leverage and the Emir for wasta. I'd say the Emir has bigger fish to fry right now with the possible coup attempt earlier this week.

From a post above on this thread:

Originally Posted by dirk85 View Post
I don't mean to defend the company at all, but it would appear that the person to whom that letter was sent to had finished the whole CPL/IR training, type rating as well, but never started line training by her own decision cause she got married, her husband didnít want her to fly, she asked for an office job but was declined, and she never flew a single line sector in her life.
All of this after being sponsored by the company.

Not entirely surprised they are asking for the training money back. Actually surprised they didn't do it sooner than 6,5 years.
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Old 15th May 2020, 09:17
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Join Date: May 2018
Location: Earth
Posts: 8
Originally Posted by FlyingAce77 View Post
AAB says 20% of Employees will be laid off out of 45000 which is 9000 and 50 Aircrafts will retire giving an Interview to BBC World.
any idea how pilots will be effected?
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Old 15th May 2020, 09:43
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 539
Originally Posted by Airbubba View Post
It seems to be. She's trying to pull a runner after taking years to complete the training and then deciding that she doesn't want to be a pilot. Most places in the Middle East will come after you for a training bond if you don't complete the obligated service from what I've seen over the years.

As a local and a female she will argue that she's a protected species and can't be sacked for cause. She's appealed to the media for leverage and the Emir for wasta. I'd say the Emir has bigger fish to fry right now with the possible coup attempt earlier this week.

From a post above on this thread:
Her message in Arabic from her post doesn't indicate that she chose to quite. Says that she was asked to leave without any warning or hearing. From what she wrote it seems she didn't want to leave.

From Google Translate

I am a Qatari citizen, an employee of Qatar Airways. Today, Thursday 7/5/2020, a procedure was completed to terminate my services without stating disciplinary or similar reasons. I ask you to investigate the matter.
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