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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 9th Aug 2015, 18:41
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Milli86

If you have wide body hrs , you have chance, narrow body guys might have to wait longer
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Old 9th Aug 2015, 18:47
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I'm not sure how true this wide-body experience rumour is…

I heard there are lots of people in the holding pool! whats the situation like for the people waiting in the pool? will they ever get the chance?
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Old 9th Aug 2015, 19:26
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Hiring On Hold at QR

This was an email I recieved from a QR recruitment specialist who is my contact....
" We are putting all on boarding processing on hold until we get our new requirements from our planning section.Once we have these we will resume reviewing profiles again and inviting for interviews.We do not have a time for this to occur however we hope to resume in the upcoming weeks. Thanks for your patience and understanding".
This information speaks to those who have receently applied and stopped at the Job fairs like me. If you have interviewed already not sure if this is pertinent to your situation. Good Luck and FLY safe.....Ve764
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Old 9th Aug 2015, 19:41
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So is this man power related? Or fleet capacity related?
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Old 9th Aug 2015, 20:56
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until NEW REQUIREMENTS ???!!!
what that suppose to mean ?
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Old 10th Aug 2015, 04:03
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From what I gather with the new airframes coming they have not a plan for manning or aircraft usage therefore they are taking a "time out" to devise a plan...Keep in mind folks ...they have purchased 20 Billion USD in FIRM aircraft orders. These airframes are coming...Be Patient..its not on our time but QR's...
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Old 13th Aug 2015, 09:29
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Just did the interview... In the HR presentation never told us about any hold on further interviews us as mentioned by Ve764. In fact there was a slide in the presentation which said they needed 600 pilots for this year. No word on how many have been hired already this year.

Thanks a lot to everyone who responded to my questions. I have to admit it did little to calm my nerves going in but in hindsight the info was not much off the mark.

The test I got seemed to have some FAA questions too which I treasured but was sweating over a couple getting really mad at myself for not being too sure. No one failed the test or got sent back. Interview was all TMAAT type and has been very accurately described in many replies above. For example they do have a written set of questions and would ask you for scenarios to cover them all. I had some stories that covered more than one of their questions so in that column they wrote "Covered by # xx".

I shouldn't have to clarify that the goal is not to have stories that cover multiple points but to make sure that while answering the question you don't come across as someone they would like to have. For example the question I struggled with to come up with a story was "Tell me about an occasion where you did not follow your company policies".

I had thought about answering on Captain not taking directs on holidays coz we don't have a 'block or better' policy. They said it was not really against a policy, in that case I had already thought of cost index changes... Especially I told them that a captain showed me how to change the speed in FMS in a way that doesn't change the cost index thus the company wouldn't know. They didn't bite that one either, so I had to be quick is coming up with one that satisfied them. In trying to make me spill the beans they were like "comon, we all have times when we do things like that". I wasn't gonna take that bait either, lol. But luckily I was able to come up with one that was also true (very important to me personally) and didn't make me look too bad either.

Anyway again, everyone was congratulated and given the letter with the time of the sim evaluation. Coming from 737NG, I was assigned 777 but another guy (also on NG) was given the letter of A320. But they made it clear that the sim might change. I ended up doing it in the 777 with the guy who had been given the letter with A320.

We were 7 guys, 2 SO and 1 fast track. Experience ranged from a Captain with Embraer factory to 6000 hr FO on NG to a US regional FO for 7 years with Express Jet.

Everyone in our group made it to the end. Our sim instructor was from Egypt and a very nice gentleman. The presentation we got did not have too much in it but they said they were not looking for too much either.

In the case of me and my sim partner, we took both seats alternatively. I was first. We were told there would be 3 parts with the 1st one only to be done once. So I took off LNAV, VNAV, auto pilot/auto throttle and FD, the whole deal. Got a very straight forward medical emergency, were advised that the FA already had check, and found a doctor whose papers were already check and he determined it was serious heart-attack. So the decision to return was pretty clear. He then set us up for a visual, I ended up a little high on downwind thinking he might actually re-position us but he instead helped with speed brake. Wasn't my best but remained stable and landed fine. We had the autopilot at our discretion. I wanted to feel for the sim so I was flying manually until we got the FA call about the situation. We were told to have the auto pilot disconnected by the time we got the abeam point on the downwind.

Then took off again, had an engine failure on the runway after V1. I was lucky to almost have no heading change or major visible corrections. We were already told to simply climb straight ahead on runway heading. Unlike the NG we didn't have to change bank angle selector or set climb speed at E/O Accel height... OR to set MCT. Just needed to clean the airplane. We had FD and autothrottle but no autopilot for this maneuver.

Got paused and then set up on a 30 degree intercept to the ILS with single engine in IMC. Had flight director but no auto pilot. Got a little messy when I saw the runway, but asked my sim partner later if I went more than 1000fpm v/s before touchdown and was told no.

Then we switched and the other guy only did the V1 cut, pretty scary when you think about getting that as the first thing as you step into a 777 for the very first time. He got off a bit, maybe more than 10 degrees before getting it stable. Sim was paused and him told that given his experience he can do better than that (the instructor was very nice saying it can happen to the best of pilots sometimes). Next time was much better... got paused again and then he did the single engine ILS as well and it was over. We were told "good job" but that he can't say anything and that we will be contacted in a few weeks.

Not sure how well I did, but certainly it wasn't the worst that I could have done. Cautiously optimistic is how I would put it. They seem to need a lot of people and did not come across as trying to fail any one. Met a number of very nice new recruits in training and some line guys. Seemed like a nice atmosphere there.

Hope that helps anyone in the position I was not long ago.

Last edited by bravo45; 14th Aug 2015 at 03:57.
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Old 13th Aug 2015, 20:47
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Very Cool granted as stated the hold affects those of us who recently applied,and are hoping for an interview invitation.Some are obviously further in the process and are not affected...Ve
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Old 14th Aug 2015, 03:48
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Well I had applied a while back and had been trying to delay my interview coz I didn't expect such a quick response. As opposed to come who have had to wait 2-3 months before receiving the first email.

I guess being typed and currently flying the 737NG helped my case. I was originally invited in July so it was a case of a delayed slot for me. At least 2-3 other guys of the 7 in my group had similar circumstances. 1 guy only came for the sim because when he was originally there for the interview, the sim had a problem. So maybe they have delayed more interviews for now, but luckily I had gone through the hoops before that.
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Old 15th Aug 2015, 10:20
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Would anybody have any information on the current training bond when joining Qatar as non-type rated?

Is it:-

deduction from your salary for the first 18 months and having it returned at 36 months

or

paying back a lump sum if you leave within 3 years?
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Old 15th Aug 2015, 18:30
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No salary deduction. Total sum divided by 36 months and pay for each month you leave before that.
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Old 15th Aug 2015, 20:31
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Thanks for the info, Oneworld.

Good news.
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Old 16th Aug 2015, 16:15
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Does anyone know of the timeline for applications to be reviewed and answered with either a 'Sorry, not successful' or 'Yes, you have an interview!'

I applied early June and my application is still showing as 'New' for A320 DEC.
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Old 16th Aug 2015, 16:39
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Guys I have a serious question, did anyone know of any pilots that got fresh out of flight school with a fresh CPL multi and went to QR right seat A320 by just knowing people in management?
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Old 16th Aug 2015, 21:24
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Commuting pilot,

At this time I understand that A320 DEC are not really needed by Qatar because of the huge number of DEC that is already on the holding pool. That might be the reason of such a delay in calling you. On the other hand you can never know how and when Qatar is calling you for the interview because they really do not care about you as a single, they manage big numbers.
My best advice is to wait, sooner or later they will call you.

It is still Ramadan there so things are even going slower than usual, usually after a couple of months you get the PSA to do (don't know if that changed). With the Ramadan on the middle it might take a month longer.


Selfmade92,

I do not know anyone, but since there are no unions in Qatar and the airline is managed like a family business I wouldn't be surprised at all. (Maybe because the whole Qatar is OWNED by a family)
And actually I don't care.
Why do you ask?
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Old 16th Aug 2015, 23:30
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news

Ramadan ended a month ago...

I did the interview 40 days ago still no reply.
anybody experienced a long waiting period like that?
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Old 17th Aug 2015, 00:17
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You are right! ramadan ended on the 17th of July..
Sorry, I have been very busy and did not realize how fast days were passing.

40 days? Well usually bad news come first.. Longer than average but I stick with my opinion that in Qatar you don't have a standard time, you just wait..

Good luck!
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Old 17th Aug 2015, 05:39
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@selfmade92......
Sounds like you are referring to the second officer program, where as new cadets directly from flight school start flying 320, 330 or even 787.
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Old 18th Aug 2015, 16:49
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@Southpole: Couple of friends of my dad are in senior management in Qatar Airways and I just wanted to see if it happened before, if anyone would know.
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Old 18th Aug 2015, 19:03
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Hi guys. I attended selection for non type rated 777/787 First Officer over 4 months back. After many weeks waiting I heard back that I'd been successful but was in the holding pool until further notice. Now around 3 months in the holding pool. Has anyone been or is in a similar situation shed some light on how long this may go on for ?
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