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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 17th Dec 2012, 14:58
  #5801 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Nice
Posts: 54

I think that sentence confuses most of us SO's in the pool. Most people on here tend to think positive (which is good) and believe that this sentence means there won't be any SO interviews in the coming year, but the SO's in the pool will be employed thoughout the next year. I try to think positive but I simply dont know. Lets say that the email leaves room for speculation..
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 15:11
  #5802 (permalink)  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Netherlands
Age: 30
Posts: 5
Hey man,

I have also received my update. Indeed neither positive or negative. I am really not sure if this update brings good or bad news. I did my selection Jan 2012. No offer letter, no contract, no DOJ.
Trying to see things positive, but this whole delay is making it harder and harder.

take care, Maybe see you all in Doha soon.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 15:44
  #5803 (permalink)  
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Not in Doha.
Posts: 49
Does it mean that they are not going to make more assesments for FTSO but they will call to the FTSO that are in the pool (even they have not received the DOJ) or that not further FTSO in the pool will receive the DOJ???
That is a very good question. I interview end of March. Good news received a few weeks after that. I don't care if I have to wait another 12 months if they tell me that Iam guaranteed the job.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 16:06
  #5804 (permalink)  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Europe
Posts: 23
@Boeing777ER, unfortunately I cannot give you a sure answer, I dont work in HR, just like others I merely try to put the pieces of info together from different sources to get a larger picture. As Jeanpaul172 suggests, the letter can in a sense leave room for some interpretation, but I dont think it was its purpose. I would deffinitely distinguish between hiring and recruitment, and also the intention to use people from the pool is clearly stated.

In your case though, I would rather use some logic. Why would anyone bother contacting you more then a year after the interview if he was not interested? Also, the hundreds of pilots needed still remain, no CTC can train them in such vast numbers to be ready anytime soon, so keep the faith. 2013 will be our year.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 17:04
  #5805 (permalink)  
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Nevertheless Tritzo said last Dec 13th:

A friend just told me that he got invited for an interview as second officer (NTSO) next year. the application was sent way back in time.
Quite confusing hum?

I don't know if it was intentional, but yes, this update sounds a smart way to feed people hopes without any garantee.

You guys are really strong. Hoping that your 1 or 1.5 year of waiting will pay off...

The game continue.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 18:54
  #5806 (permalink)  
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: everywhere and nowhere
Posts: 73
True, thats also why I am quite sceptical right now. I see it the same as RK303. An update email that keeps us "happy" and calm.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 19:02
  #5807 (permalink)  
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Just wondering if any Captains in the pool have recvd Nov update?
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 20:20
  #5808 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: uk
Posts: 276
''An update email that keeps us "happy" and calm. ''

I didnt really feel happy and calm,that email left me with no feeling after the first time I read it. Then I put more effort trying to understand it by reading every sentence carefully again and again and a feeling of confusion started to appear. After having read their explanations about their 'hiring trends' soooo many times I still dont understand if they guarantee employment for all the swimmers in the pool, and if they do what would be the expected timeframe.
Anyway lets keep a positive attitude and hope all of us stubborn swimmers will succeed. By the way one sentence I really dont like in that email is 'Dear applicant' ! That word makes me worry a bit as I dont consider myself an applicant. An applicant would be someone who wants to apply and is filling the application form now.
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 06:09
  #5809 (permalink)  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: arabian gulf
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did any one with a signed (offer) receive the ( end of nov update ) email ?? or it was sent only to the guys who dont have a signed offer ??
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 06:21
  #5810 (permalink)  
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Doha, Qatar
Age: 50
Posts: 426
@ Niacab
I was selected as DEC back in April... no update since July!
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 07:46
  #5811 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Madrid
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So,everybody understands that they are referring that they are not going to make more assesments to NEW FTSO, but the ones that are swimming in the holding pool are going to receive DOJ in the 12 following months, isn't it???

It would be incredible , in my point of view, that Qatar would tell us (to the FTSO) that doesnt need us with this kind of coolnes...I suppouse that at least, they would send a "sorry email".

Apart of this,I wouldn' t understand why they are not going to need more FTSO , but yes more NTSO and FO...

I think that the update, even being a little bit confusing, wants to calm everybody telling us they count on us.I agree that we are not applicants anymore, but i hope this is only a expressions.

This is what I think...Indeed I would like to Know the opinions of others FTSO, if possible.

Thanks a lot.
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 08:20
  #5812 (permalink)  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: everywhere
Posts: 77

I received pass mail in March this year as a FTSO.
The way I read it, is the same as you. QR will not assess more FTSO's, but will call the ones the holding pool to join at some point.
Basically, everybody in the holding pool will get called to join in the next 12 months.
I have asked this question to some friends flying at QR, what it exactly means for us (FTSO).
But... you never know with QR! Even though they say they have sorted things out with training, etc... but it's not unusual that the training lasts about a year for a FTSO. I hope that will be reduced.
But you never know what's gonna happen next. I understand that what happened with the Spanair guys won't happen again... but if another company goes bust with rated A320 people... do I need to say more?
Anyway... hope to see you all in Doha soon!
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Old 18th Dec 2012, 17:24
  #5813 (permalink)  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Kyle, TX
Age: 48
Posts: 5
Hi nicab,

I am a Captain in the pool, and I have not yet received my November update. Interview first week of May 2012, good news and pool email end of June 2012.

Last edited by twapilot1971; 18th Dec 2012 at 17:26.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 08:31
  #5814 (permalink)  
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Not in Doha.
Posts: 49
Qatar is advertising(recruiting) for DEC A330/A340 and DEC B777. Hopefully all you DEC's in the pool will get a contract/ DOJ soon.

I am still confuse about the FTSO requirement for the next 12 months. You can play "devils advocate" and come up with a lot of different answers.

Last edited by iQatar; 19th Dec 2012 at 08:32.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 09:09
  #5815 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Nice
Posts: 54

There are 100+ SO's still on hold over there. Some did their TQ's but didnt do a single flight yet. I know of some guys that are back in their home country waiting to be called for linetraining. That is the situation at the moment. How long will it clear to take that backlog? No one knows.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 15:54
  #5816 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Madrid
Posts: 11
FTSO tricky sentence.

Reading the sentences once again, I think that they are referring to the possibility of assesing more FTSO... but the ones that are holding will obtain its DOJ next year.

Once again , I cant see the point in which they decide not hiring any FTSO else with the big expansion is planned for the coming year.

Hope see you all in Doha soon!!
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 19:23
  #5817 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Up in the Air
Posts: 143
Still waiting

Hi guys.

I did my interview in Sept 10th, and still waiting for any feedback, out of 4, two has the pool email but the other two still waiting after 3 months and 2 weeks, im still so tense, if at least I can swim a bit in the pool i will be much more happy this Xmas....

Anyone in this situation as well???

Merry Xmas to all and happy new year....
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 01:44
  #5818 (permalink)  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Florida
Age: 34
Posts: 13

Sept interview for FO same boat...
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 13:28
  #5819 (permalink)  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Netherlands
Age: 30
Posts: 5

In 2013 it is very unlikely to start as a Second Officer. Qatar Airways can only offer their own Students a SO job. Externally recruited personnel (SO) do not get a job offer this year. There is a little chance to get a job in the second half of 2013 but that is on a merit basis from the Talent Pool.

This information came directly from Qatar Airways recruitment.

Best wishes for 2013!
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 17:48
  #5820 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NW Europe
Posts: 16
Hello All Swimmers.......here is part of an email sent to a friend of mine who has a job offer within Qatar (not flightdeck) and asked about my position....(which is fast track second officer- interview April.....pool news Aug 2012). I too was confused about the Nov update so here is the reply from within (albeit not directly flightdeck recruitment) when my friend asked about my position and queried the wording of the Nov update. It was sent this morning. It has obvious bias towards FTSO as this is my postion.

"As you know I am not responsible for Flight Deck recruitment however I have checked with my colleagues to clarify the message in this email. What we are saying is that the Talent Pool for Fast Track Second Officers will not be increased i.e. so we will not be recruiting additional people into this pool. This differs from other categories of talent where we may need to continue recruiting in addition to the existing talent pool. The issue we have is that our requirements continuously fluctuate across the categories which is why we have not given definite. All in all I believe it is positive as we are progressing to onboard the people within our talent pool albeit at different rates depending on the category."
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