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Old 14th Mar 2008, 16:18
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I did not assume anything. At least now people who were actually instructors are coming out forward. There is no need to be within the shadows with an identity as a ghost rider.

If you consider that as being sneaky. There are more sneakily ways in causing frustration to the movement by the concerned party who has done that is actually doing what has been assigned to the certain individual.
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Old 14th Mar 2008, 16:43
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Striker,

What?

icao level 4 may again be a problem!

I think the previous poster said he was a current member of the ayla staff!
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Old 14th Mar 2008, 16:49
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Bloody hell Striker.. thats what we call verbal diarroeah. Wasnt Ghost rider in top gun? "Negative ghost rider the pattern is closed"

He got a nasty shock too.

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Old 14th Mar 2008, 19:24
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goneeastI am sure that you are one of the terminated instructor and I think you are the school teacher yes there is so many complains about you from the students and I think you should be kicked out long time ago ,and I think SELLING PIZZA is the best job for you ,you said the CGI is defending the ground instructors ?since when ?he is the biggest ass hole in the world yes he has attitude problim he is nasty stuped foolish he is the biggest mistake in ayla he never knew what he is teaching ,his relation with the other instructors was bad he treated the students so bad I used to fight with him every day , do you think we need such instructor in ayla? let him eat ****tt and you can share it with him, we knew he is gon east and we hope you and him will never come back to ayla because you will be kicked out soon from alph academey .six months from now yes ayla will be the best you know why ? because all the jakasses like you will follow him soon .good luck with the pizza .
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 08:20
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the true morale in Ayla (very low)

aviator, we finally feel what is the true morale in Ayla now!

from your quote:
Thanks To Every Ground And Flight Instructor In Ayla
to your quote:
he is nasty stuped foolish --- because all the jakasses like you will follow him soon
I understand you had a mood swing as well.

But don't worry, because 4 more instructor have resigned recently and soon will be no "jackes" anymore.. actually there will be no instructor left anymore at all!

I think goneeast is making a damn' good point when he says that expats don't like to travel 3000miles to find out all they were promised is just a bunch of cp and then being kicked in the nuts by a reckless CFI or CEO!

And it is clear now that the more the students are complaining (long complaints record in student affair office) the more the CFI is exploring new anal retentive techniques with the instructors (both ground and flight) to keep students happy. Result: the more the students are happy and the more the instructors are treated like cp.

Expats believe in LOYALTY, to their students yes, but mainly to each other.
goneeast, you are spot on!
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 09:57
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Me aviator,

Did you have an axe to grind with the former CGI because your exam results were appalling and your attitude stinks? I might sell pizza but I can honestly say that I have never practiced proctology, unlike yourself. And dont think I dont know who you are, so you cant hide behind a pretence of anonymity.

"He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind" as yourself and the company are discovering. That said its people like you and your fellow students that I feel sorry for, because you will not be feeling quite as benevolent towards the management when the "Jackasses" are replaced with local "talent", you should be ok though, you'll continue to fail exams in groundschool and that will mean consistency on your part.

Its a shame however because the place was so promising 12 months ago.
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 10:31
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Me Aviatior; I will not abuse you in a public forum nor will I text insulting messages to you as you have done to me.

You were re coursed for your immaturity and your poor attitude. Myself the CFI the current CGI and the CEO were all in agreement as was your father.

We hoped this would give you time to reflect and show some potential for becoming a first officer in an airline.

It is with sadness that this doesn't seem to have worked. Take a look at other threads from professional aviatiors on PPRUNE and compare them to yours, being a Pilot requires integrity, maturity and an ability to work with others. I see none of these qualities in you!
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 11:36
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Safety?

i am a student here and my concern is about safety.
there are a remarkable number of failures which happened with students from course Bravo and luckily they handled them. it usual to have Engine failures anywhere in the world. but to have frequent failures in such a short time indicates a problem either in the maintainance department or the plane itself..
i wonder why did not they bring this to surface in the last town hall meetings...
any comments guys...??
flysafe1, do you want to know why the safety topic is off limits in Ayla?

The current Head of Maintenance is a dispatcher NOT an engineer. Actually that position is shared by the CEO which is also NOT an engineer. In countries like UK, USA or Europe the authorities would shut down such a place, but in Jordan, money talks, jut keep it quiet.

Recently a fuel line was left undone nearly killing the CEO. Of course he kept it quiet.

The first engine failure was at night and the pilot was a PPL on his first solo after the exam. I’ll say that again: on his first solo after the PPL exam at night in Mountainous terrain. Not only this is not quality training but every pilot knows that accidents are the results of a chain of errors not a single one: Mountainous terrain + night + low experience in general + very low experience at night. Despite the student managed to save his life and the aircraft the CEO jumped on the instructor’s as for not being at the airport that night (what could have he done?) instead of praising him for a good emergency training to the student. The CFI didn't change training system since but instead kept filling up the following nights schedule again with students with fresh ink on their PPL “just to get night flying out of the way for CPL training”. Somebody never learns.


so, no engineers to certify maintenance and a poor safety management system.

you wonder why they don’t bring these things up during the town hall meetings? Because they want you believe everything is safe and well done. It's just a big show. Wake up before someone will get hurt.
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 17:23
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I realise that there is a group of people who are attacking their own school while being current students in there. How does this make sense? Instead of bringing up these issues in the academy they use this thread !! Whats the use of these posts ? choose the right channel to solve the problems. Its a pitty to complain and comlain without giving recommendations, this style of communications wont lead to anything useful.
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 17:39
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I think proctology is the only thing you know in your life because it is the EXPATS trade like you ,we believe in loyalty to each other not to you ,that is why the local talents are 100%better than the imported expats whom believe only on money not in loyalty .when i say thanks to every ground instructor i never mean the imported expats at all ,so love it or leave it .....we the students knew who is good and who is bad in ayla not the ex mechanic
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 17:53
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Calm down everyone hold your horses!!!

First of all everyone here needs to go to Rovers and grab a cold beer and chill! holy sht !!!

I dont think its our fault as students that you staff have a problem with management. So in conclusion yes Ayla is an excellent place to study. I trained at Brampton flight college in Ontario canada and I tell you the standards here are much higher! Yes the whole CARC thing is a joke, but the internal standards for knowledge are a lot better compared to where i flew (canada)!!! this is solely my opinion though..

The way I look at it Ayla is still better than Middle east, RJ and QAC .. QAC im 100% sure about since i have a few friends that are currently there.

Soooo again from a student's point of view...I think its a very good academy and like we have mentioned before, nowhere is perfect and yes it has its flaws like every company does in this world.


Enjoy the rest of the weekend
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 17:54
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so M E ,
who are the non ex-pat instructors that are so good in the ground school? 1 jordanian?

rest therefore are ex-pat?

you son are an arse. and the only reason that you are still where you are is cos of daddy, now listen carefully... we know who you are .. daddy cant help you.. you are alone and you are **** at what you try to do.. care to talk to me face to face tomorrow?

i think not.

PS does m.e stand for multi engine? bit bold for a ppl man.. get some time in sonny
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 19:50
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Bunch of bickering whingers.

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