GF A320 grounded due to corrosion in engine pylon
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I agree with you JB.
Now he is veering towards a different direction while distilling his poison before to be injected into somebody else: how experienced are people coming from "that part of the world" called by himself as "bargain pilots" due to an accident in Sao Paolo, Brazil.
Considering the fact that there are some pilots that came from "that part of the world" (captains and first officers) that for sure operated in CGH, I cannot measure how offended by brassplate and sad about their mates they can be now. Maybe they knew the operating crew, maybe they were their friends or relatives, who knows?
The same feeling people from Bahrain very likely felt when an GF A320 flew in to the see.
By the way, were the GF 072 pilots "bargain pilots"?
Very disappointing brassplate and do not jump into conclusions!
Now he is veering towards a different direction while distilling his poison before to be injected into somebody else: how experienced are people coming from "that part of the world" called by himself as "bargain pilots" due to an accident in Sao Paolo, Brazil.
Considering the fact that there are some pilots that came from "that part of the world" (captains and first officers) that for sure operated in CGH, I cannot measure how offended by brassplate and sad about their mates they can be now. Maybe they knew the operating crew, maybe they were their friends or relatives, who knows?
The same feeling people from Bahrain very likely felt when an GF A320 flew in to the see.
By the way, were the GF 072 pilots "bargain pilots"?
Very disappointing brassplate and do not jump into conclusions!
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Well PJ when/if you fly jets you'll realise sometimes it may take a short while to increase or decrease airspeed to achieve Va.. strictly adhered to this speed which not all pilots may achieve, eg, what may be thought of as temporary bump/patch or "she'll be right" is not good enough according to the 'definition' ,so according to Airbus, they hand this memo out to cover their arse in the interim.
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Ah, OK. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind if/when I fly jets. 
The whole point of my statement is (and I don't know exactly how fragile the engine pylons are on the A320) is that aerodynamically, if you are above Va, and in Severe or Extreme turbulence, it is not only the Engine Pylons that can be in trouble. This is why we slow down to the Turbulence Penetration speed when ripples start forming in the coffee. But yes, if you get slammed by a sledge-hammer flying above these speeds (and this applies to any aircraft), you can face structural damage, and not necessarily only limited to engine pylons.
I am not trying to be a jerk. I am just stating these observations which are taught in private pilot aerodynamics. Sounds like Airbus' statement is the aviation equivalent of printing on the side of a McDonald's coffee cup "Caution- HOT!"
The whole point of my statement is (and I don't know exactly how fragile the engine pylons are on the A320) is that aerodynamically, if you are above Va, and in Severe or Extreme turbulence, it is not only the Engine Pylons that can be in trouble. This is why we slow down to the Turbulence Penetration speed when ripples start forming in the coffee. But yes, if you get slammed by a sledge-hammer flying above these speeds (and this applies to any aircraft), you can face structural damage, and not necessarily only limited to engine pylons.
I am not trying to be a jerk. I am just stating these observations which are taught in private pilot aerodynamics. Sounds like Airbus' statement is the aviation equivalent of printing on the side of a McDonald's coffee cup "Caution- HOT!"
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JackmeoffBauer and alboogeyman, you can both kiss my toosh. sure, i've played the devil's advocate. only time will tell how right i've been. poison, is that what you call it? interesting, you think pilots will be affected? i post what i like, when i like. and i ain't stopping any time soon. as for gf, leaving won't come sooner. look at all the negative post on gf. this post is one of them. check the otp? non existent. conditions of the aircrafts, probably the worst 767s and airbusses on earth, not exagerating. i may be vague on details but the results speak for themselves unless you've got your head so far up managements behind you could travel with them for free. so defend the company if you want. soon, i won't have to struggle with it any more. i feel for those who have no choice and have to put up with it.
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the only thing i screwed up was joining gf. judging by the number of posts you've made, odds on you're part of management. which gives me the perfect opportunity to say to you YOU'RE THE ONE WHO HAS SCREWED UP!!!! if you call me yellow for not wanting to fly those planes that are barely airworthy, then i'm yellow. if it is for leaving a company that is quickly becoming unsafe in your hands, then i'm yellow. in both cases, i'm more than happy to be yellow.
