EK Salary Increase Announced
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From: Raincoast
Hey folks
Since this is the month we see the results of the new pay raise... I have just had a look at my June 07 payslip and have done some calculations. Since I started here in '03, I have received a grand total of about $300 CAD raise on a monthly basis. This is about 3% over nearly 4 years taking in to account the AED - CAD exchange rate.
That's no duff... on basic salary. Even with the new hourly flight pay on a 78 hour month I am still only up a total of $1300 CAD per month over nearly 4 years. That's only about 15% over nearly 4 years. In that time the price of everything in Dubai has skyrocketed... car gas +33%, food +30%, school fees +25%... its easy to see that we are slipping backwards in real terms. The cost of rent is high, and the "utiliities allowance" is pathetic, the company allowance is approx 35-40% below market value on equivalent properties... Ugh!
Since there is no credit for vacation time or reserve duty, you can wipe out 11 weeks worth of pay... 5 for the reserve and 6 for the vacation... (if you can get vacation). That's two full months with no flying pay, plus 3/4 of another month... nearly a quarter of the year... Crap!
When you average out the increase mentioned in the first paragraph, it starts to look pretty small overall.
So folks, I know this is from a Canuck perspective but with the increased cost of living here, we just aren't getting ahead. I don't know how FOs do it, especially the ones whose wives don't have a job. It's frickin' brutal...
It can't be any better for folks from the USA. We're getting hammered in the nuts by this company. But Flight Ops manglement will blithely blow sunshine up where the sun don't shine and whistle their merry tune that we are getting a good deal.
You can of course volunteer to be one of the chosen to attend a meeting to discuss issues with Flt Ops manglement... oh, but they choose the location, set the date, set the agenda and then select the attendees for a meeting! How absurd is that? What a bunch of cowards!
As my Brit friends would say: BOLLOCKS!
Fly safely
k-o-t-s
Since this is the month we see the results of the new pay raise... I have just had a look at my June 07 payslip and have done some calculations. Since I started here in '03, I have received a grand total of about $300 CAD raise on a monthly basis. This is about 3% over nearly 4 years taking in to account the AED - CAD exchange rate.
That's no duff... on basic salary. Even with the new hourly flight pay on a 78 hour month I am still only up a total of $1300 CAD per month over nearly 4 years. That's only about 15% over nearly 4 years. In that time the price of everything in Dubai has skyrocketed... car gas +33%, food +30%, school fees +25%... its easy to see that we are slipping backwards in real terms. The cost of rent is high, and the "utiliities allowance" is pathetic, the company allowance is approx 35-40% below market value on equivalent properties... Ugh!
Since there is no credit for vacation time or reserve duty, you can wipe out 11 weeks worth of pay... 5 for the reserve and 6 for the vacation... (if you can get vacation). That's two full months with no flying pay, plus 3/4 of another month... nearly a quarter of the year... Crap!
When you average out the increase mentioned in the first paragraph, it starts to look pretty small overall.
So folks, I know this is from a Canuck perspective but with the increased cost of living here, we just aren't getting ahead. I don't know how FOs do it, especially the ones whose wives don't have a job. It's frickin' brutal...
It can't be any better for folks from the USA. We're getting hammered in the nuts by this company. But Flight Ops manglement will blithely blow sunshine up where the sun don't shine and whistle their merry tune that we are getting a good deal.
You can of course volunteer to be one of the chosen to attend a meeting to discuss issues with Flt Ops manglement... oh, but they choose the location, set the date, set the agenda and then select the attendees for a meeting! How absurd is that? What a bunch of cowards!
As my Brit friends would say: BOLLOCKS!
Fly safely
k-o-t-s
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From: Gulf playing Golf
I am loosing in Cameroonian shillings, but hey! in greenlandish kroners I am doing great, so I'll just move to sonderstroem... Get the idear. The fact that US dollars is a crabby currency to be paid in is not really EK problem. Surely you can understand that. I love bitching as much as the next guy, but lets bitch about something, we actually can blame poor management for eh!
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From: Bolivia
KOTS
Do you pay your gas, food, school fees in CAD.
Didn't think so. How much has your salary gone up in dirhams? Mine (basic) has increased 50% since i got my command. I agree that in my home currency it has basically stagnated, but as much as i would like to, i can't find a way to blame the company for the exchange rate. Having said that, that is why i am looking elsewhere for a job, and the crap exchange rate will make the decision to leave just that little bit easier if a job comes up.
Didn't think so. How much has your salary gone up in dirhams? Mine (basic) has increased 50% since i got my command. I agree that in my home currency it has basically stagnated, but as much as i would like to, i can't find a way to blame the company for the exchange rate. Having said that, that is why i am looking elsewhere for a job, and the crap exchange rate will make the decision to leave just that little bit easier if a job comes up.
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From: Bit nosey aren't you
The Flight Deck Announcement is on the portal:
Increase to Utilities Allowance payable to those not living in Company Accommodation:
Captain Dhs 11,865 (142,380 per annum)
SFI/SFE/Ground Instructors Dhs 10,565 (126,780 per annum)
So about 12%, better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick!!
Ghost
Increase to Utilities Allowance payable to those not living in Company Accommodation:
Captain Dhs 11,865 (142,380 per annum)
SFI/SFE/Ground Instructors Dhs 10,565 (126,780 per annum)
So about 12%, better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick!!
Ghost
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From: The planet Tharg
pay cut?
The new education rates do not even begin to cover the massive rises in education costs here in Dubai. Years ago the allowance covered the whole cost. Then a band where the parent paid 10% of the costs was introduced so that the parent could feel he was contributing to the kids education...cost cutting dressed up as philosophy, what a joke. Now the allowance is 10000 AED+ less than the fees. I suppose they have to find the money for the flight pay from somewhere. C***s.
HUB
HUB
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Looking at the education increase, it's not enough.
The main English based curriculm schools in Dubai have fees higher than the Emirates limit and in my case will cost a months salary each year. An equal or better private education in my domicile didn't even come close to the fees charged here. The educational allowance has slowly crept away from the fees in reverse gear. A consideration for a new joiner would not be "what do I pay this year" but what do I pay over the entire period you are in Dubai.
The schools in Dubai that I have had anything to do with are overall very good. I have to admit that Emirates conditions are not keeping pace with true educational costs.
By the way, I'm only talking school fees. You want to talk extra curricular activities......
The main English based curriculm schools in Dubai have fees higher than the Emirates limit and in my case will cost a months salary each year. An equal or better private education in my domicile didn't even come close to the fees charged here. The educational allowance has slowly crept away from the fees in reverse gear. A consideration for a new joiner would not be "what do I pay this year" but what do I pay over the entire period you are in Dubai.
The schools in Dubai that I have had anything to do with are overall very good. I have to admit that Emirates conditions are not keeping pace with true educational costs.
By the way, I'm only talking school fees. You want to talk extra curricular activities......
