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Old 24th May 2007 | 02:38
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A few months ago a survey was run to establish who would or would not work on their day off. I ran some figures based on everyone who participated in the poll and came up with the interesting fact that they represented at best a mere 10% of the EK pilot workforce. If we suppose that that 10% represented everyone who was disenchanted with EK, then it figures that 90% of the pilot workforce at EK don't really care about pprune and/or are happy with the company. For those of you who like to whinge and run the airline down I really hope things improve for you. If they don't, I suggest you find the nearest exit and deploy a slide.

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Old 24th May 2007 | 03:25
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If we suppose that that 10% represented everyone who was disenchanted with EK
By any means that is a bit of a leap of faith and applies more importance to your survey than is justified. Getting 10% input from the pilot body is remarkable, as with other forums and sites you would be lucky to get 10% of the membership to vote, never mind a group of people who for whatever reason are not members of this site.
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Old 24th May 2007 | 04:13
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A few months ago a survey was run to establish who would or would not work on their day off. I ran some figures based on everyone who participated in the poll
Crinkly, with these words, I think you make have just blown your own cover.

He's a HR Department stooge, gents.

So now the mystery's solved and we know what HR Departments actually do all day during working hours - they troll the *** Internet.
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Old 24th May 2007 | 05:46
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A few months ago a survey was run to establish who would or would not work on their day off. I ran some figures based on everyone who participated in the poll and came up with the interesting fact that they represented at best a mere 10% of the EK pilot workforce. If we suppose that that 10% represented everyone who was disenchanted with EK, then it figures that 90% of the pilot workforce at EK don't really care about pprune and/or are happy with the company. For those of you who like to whinge and run the airline down I really hope things improve for you. If they don't, I suggest you find the nearest exit and deploy a slide.
Crinklstein,
I suggest that you obtain and read the first chapter in any statistics/polling textbook. While I don't think that anyone could argue that a poll conducted on PPRUNE is a valid statistical sample, to argue that anyone who does not participate in the forum here is by definition, contented is pure hogwash. If you had any interaction with the pilots here at Emirates, you would know that a significant portion are disillusioned, disgusted or just plain fed up? 20%, 50%, 80%? Your guess is as good as mine but the proof lies in the ever increasing rate of resignations. I usually refrain from personal replies, but as far as agendas go on this forum, yours sir is as naked as any that I have seen. If you want to know how screwed up things are, don't take my word for it. Go talk to the middle managers in Flight Operations who have been screaming about recruitment/retention and the inability to train those that do join. Take a look at the manpower requirement vs. availability charts for training for the next 6 months. If you want to have a debate on the issues, go for it. What's your interpretation of the company's desperate attempt to get the planes off the ground this summer by ignoring accepted interpretation of the regulations and employing the dubious practice of factoring. Were you even here the last time they tried it? Did you see the state that some guys were in when they went to work? What do you think about the 15% pay cut that the pilots took 4 years ago under the guise of a "cost neutral pay adjustment?" I know, here comes the standard response, "if you don't like it, leave." Please, if that's the best that you can do, don't bother. Companies that are successful in the long term usually employ more enlightened managerial practices than, "shut up and do what you're told." They establish working two-way lines of communications with the employees and actually work to solve the problems.

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Old 24th May 2007 | 12:35
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Must be a slump in the recruiting numbers so the bosses have deployed mr C. Stein to set the record straight, again. Very similar stuff to his fact based expositions of February.
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Old 25th May 2007 | 07:25
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How come the RGs are not appearing on the portal? I see 3 this month but have met another 3 that have gone without RGs? How many have actually gone in the last couple of months?
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