Emirates Desperate for Pilots?
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Emirates Desperate for Pilots?
I got a "no" last year after having attended their interview in DXB. Funnily they sent me an email a few days ago, asking me to attend another interview there - they even pay for the tickets.
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Desperate or Not?
Hey!
That is exactly what I had on my mind...but, nevertheless, I have no intentions to join them anymore...things have changed since last year, and I got the "go-ahead" for a new job which is starting soon...
But the invitation for the interview sounds like a tempting way to spend three days in DXB and relax, perhaps fly the 777 sim and have fun.
That is exactly what I had on my mind...but, nevertheless, I have no intentions to join them anymore...things have changed since last year, and I got the "go-ahead" for a new job which is starting soon...
But the invitation for the interview sounds like a tempting way to spend three days in DXB and relax, perhaps fly the 777 sim and have fun.
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I applied to EK last year and was accepted , however could not make my start date and turned them down.
Under re-applications on there careers pg only talks about people who were unsuccessful for re-applications.
Have e-mailed the hr manager twice but no response , not sure if that means get lost or just too busy.
Would one be wasting their time trying to re-apply if you have turned them down?
Any advice thx.
Under re-applications on there careers pg only talks about people who were unsuccessful for re-applications.
Have e-mailed the hr manager twice but no response , not sure if that means get lost or just too busy.
Would one be wasting their time trying to re-apply if you have turned them down?
Any advice thx.
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Depends how you did it. If you curled one down on Tim Clark's doormat, I suspect it would be a no go. If you didn't burn your bridges and gave a full explanation and can now say how your circumstances have changed, it would be worth a go. But..you have to regain trust so tread carefully.
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Do you really think Emirates is for you? With everything you have read and heard do you think that Emirates is going to treat you any better than the current pilots? Think long and hard about making the jump.
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Errrrrrrr........................ Desperate is the word, very desperate. 
How times have changed, having gone from a company so arrogant who wouldn't pay for your ticket to come here, to a company that travels to you! It's a sign of the times.
After all they have to fined a lot of drivers for the "PIG80" and all the other 777's on order. So how do they do it? lower the entry requirements and standards
Hey presto! "pilots" well sort of. 
How times have changed, having gone from a company so arrogant who wouldn't pay for your ticket to come here, to a company that travels to you! It's a sign of the times.
After all they have to fined a lot of drivers for the "PIG80" and all the other 777's on order. So how do they do it? lower the entry requirements and standards
Hey presto! "pilots" well sort of.
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BINGO!
The arrogrant arsho#$ at Emirates would never admit they have lowered the standards now would they? Got to put pilots in the seats or else planes are parked. Emirates will take the chance on an accident just so planes are not parked. Besides what are the chances of an accident with the superior "training" that Emirates carries out?
The arrogrant arsho#$ at Emirates would never admit they have lowered the standards now would they? Got to put pilots in the seats or else planes are parked. Emirates will take the chance on an accident just so planes are not parked. Besides what are the chances of an accident with the superior "training" that Emirates carries out?
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They still want 2000 hours on jets over 55000kg's. They have a way yet to lower the standards even more before you start running into the levels of experience that will cause accidents. Even if the guy has only 2000 hours total time, with proper background the guy will make a fine F/O. Lets not get melodramatic for the sake of trolling.
It is nice to see them offering to pay the flight over for an interview now, one of the reasons i didn't apply to Emirates was i wasn't about to pay for a flight from Canada to the ME and back just to do an interview for a job i may or may not get. If they had paid for flights back then, i likely would have been interested in applying. It's a step in the right direction anyway, and likely due to the number of pilots Emirates requires.
It is nice to see them offering to pay the flight over for an interview now, one of the reasons i didn't apply to Emirates was i wasn't about to pay for a flight from Canada to the ME and back just to do an interview for a job i may or may not get. If they had paid for flights back then, i likely would have been interested in applying. It's a step in the right direction anyway, and likely due to the number of pilots Emirates requires.
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Im a couple hundred jet hours away from the 2000hr mark and they are still happy to inform me that my application wont be processed until I meet their minimums... So, desperate for pilots? Not at the moment.
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I'll beg to differ young man.
You confuse their politeness with their observance of set minima which have been drastically reduced from previous values, which were previously substantially more than "the 2000hr mark." They're not going to consider you to fly one of their shiny widebodies with " a couple hundred jet hours away from the 2000hr mark," but yes, I do believe their desperation is tangible and you will hear from them as soon as you reach that mark.
This, in itself, is a major shift in their previous standards, together with the new policy of paying for potential employees to travel to Dubai together with their recent policy of hitting the road to come and see you.
The only thing that's not clear is how long it's going to take them to realize the plug's been taken out the bath and for them to substantially improve the lot of their current employees, which would significantly improve their ability to be able to maintain the required crew strengths.
This level of politeness is born in their desperation to satisfy their demand. I would hope that this would soon lead to an increased respect of their current crews through tangible improvements in their conditions and terms of service.
Wishful thinking? I really don't think so. They're desperate.
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You confuse their politeness with their observance of set minima which have been drastically reduced from previous values, which were previously substantially more than "the 2000hr mark." They're not going to consider you to fly one of their shiny widebodies with " a couple hundred jet hours away from the 2000hr mark," but yes, I do believe their desperation is tangible and you will hear from them as soon as you reach that mark.
This, in itself, is a major shift in their previous standards, together with the new policy of paying for potential employees to travel to Dubai together with their recent policy of hitting the road to come and see you.
The only thing that's not clear is how long it's going to take them to realize the plug's been taken out the bath and for them to substantially improve the lot of their current employees, which would significantly improve their ability to be able to maintain the required crew strengths.
This level of politeness is born in their desperation to satisfy their demand. I would hope that this would soon lead to an increased respect of their current crews through tangible improvements in their conditions and terms of service.
Wishful thinking? I really don't think so. They're desperate.
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WOW!
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What a post! You are spot on mate! You don't even work here do you and you have the beat of Emirates.
Things have gone from bad to worse and I don't know what Emirates can do to fix it besides a major overhaul and it has to be major. Change of attitude in how they deal with the pilots would be a start but only a start. Pay and conditons would have to quickly follow. This might stop the flow of pilots out of the sand but I doubt it. Pilots here have had it.
Does anyone have the figures on how many net pilots have joined through the end of April? Net pilots. Through March it was only 7 pilots and I know 9 pilots who have put their resignation papers in already to leave by June.
Emirates still does not get it do they.
What a post! You are spot on mate! You don't even work here do you and you have the beat of Emirates.
Things have gone from bad to worse and I don't know what Emirates can do to fix it besides a major overhaul and it has to be major. Change of attitude in how they deal with the pilots would be a start but only a start. Pay and conditons would have to quickly follow. This might stop the flow of pilots out of the sand but I doubt it. Pilots here have had it.
Does anyone have the figures on how many net pilots have joined through the end of April? Net pilots. Through March it was only 7 pilots and I know 9 pilots who have put their resignation papers in already to leave by June.
Emirates still does not get it do they.
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All I can say is bring it on. I think you are right about the net gain or maybe even net loss. It took at least a year longer than planned to get over 1600 pilots and it is getting worst by the day. 500 this year, ya right where from?
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IF....by some miracle they were able to CONvince more pilots to join than are currently leaving....who will train them?
There are absolutely minimal TRI's and TRE's to cover the planned training, let alone contingency, let alone growth. The slap in the face the trainers received called a "raise" has eroded what goodwill might have been garnered. Trainers resigning. Stories of guys scheduled for recurrent past the date of their currency...it's behind the power curve and spiraling in.
The recruitment numbers IMO are irrelevant. Getting bodies in the door doesn't mean squat when you can't train them.
There are absolutely minimal TRI's and TRE's to cover the planned training, let alone contingency, let alone growth. The slap in the face the trainers received called a "raise" has eroded what goodwill might have been garnered. Trainers resigning. Stories of guys scheduled for recurrent past the date of their currency...it's behind the power curve and spiraling in.
The recruitment numbers IMO are irrelevant. Getting bodies in the door doesn't mean squat when you can't train them.