Important notice to all airline pilots employed in the UAE
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It is beyond me as to how the GCAA can raise an internationally approved limit on flying hours and how this is applicable only to the UAE??? This is really pushing the limit .
Really?
How very interesting.
For those who are not informed, the USFAA have had the limit at 1000 annual hours for as long as I have been a professional pilot...42 years.
One thousand hours seems entirely reasonable to me, and reminds me of the old saying by a former US President...Harry Truman, to wit:
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Next thing the folks in the UAE will want is more money...which, oddly enough, is fine by me.
After all, when you approached your present airlines HR department, you asked for work, did you not?
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Hi 411A,
just out of curiocity..does:nt the 1000 hour litmit apply only to Part 135 Ops?
I am a little(maybe more than little) rusty with the FARs
Thanx
just out of curiocity..does:nt the 1000 hour litmit apply only to Part 135 Ops?
I am a little(maybe more than little) rusty with the FARs
Thanx
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Ah...well actually, no, stratocumulus, it applies to 14CFR121 ops, and has for a very long time.
Now, I will admit that IF the sectors are short, and there is a lot of duty time consumed by other than actual flying time, the 1000 hours might just be a tad too much.
I'm mostly a long haul guy, so the hours add up quickly.
Having said all this, I have yet to find a pilot who, when offered a lot more dough for the hours flown, isn't up to the task, and smiles all the way to the bank.
Up the pay, and I suspect thre complaints will disappear.
You really do get what you pay for and it has been this way for a very long time.
Malcontent managements take heed...change, or else change will pass you by, much to your disappointment.
Now, I will admit that IF the sectors are short, and there is a lot of duty time consumed by other than actual flying time, the 1000 hours might just be a tad too much.
I'm mostly a long haul guy, so the hours add up quickly.
Having said all this, I have yet to find a pilot who, when offered a lot more dough for the hours flown, isn't up to the task, and smiles all the way to the bank.
Up the pay, and I suspect thre complaints will disappear.
You really do get what you pay for and it has been this way for a very long time.
Malcontent managements take heed...change, or else change will pass you by, much to your disappointment.
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For those who are not informed, the USFAA have had the limit at 1000 annual hours for as long as I have been a professional pilot...42 years.
I'm not defending the hours thing. In fact, I find EK's attitude towards flight duty time and fatigue reprehensible but I guess it's par for the course when you sign up for a job with no representation and very few employment rights.
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But in fairness to other countries with higher limits, they only use them as an upper limit, not as a TARGET!
In addition, they calculate hours differently, such as 'on chocks plus 30 minutes' for example. As well, block times for most airlines around the world are a more accurate reflection of true flight times, which is not the case at EK. And... although I'm not certain of this one... I believe simulator time counts towards total time, which is not the case at EK.
And the final two points is that MOST airlines enter into agreements with their unions on practical and enforced FTL's which are tailored to the particular operation and always less than the regulatory maximums. Also, there is very little consideration at EK when it comes to time zone crossings especially when doing east versus west flights as well as the mimimal effort and accomodation afforded pilots with respect to crew rest facilities or seating arrangements on long haul flights.
In addition, they calculate hours differently, such as 'on chocks plus 30 minutes' for example. As well, block times for most airlines around the world are a more accurate reflection of true flight times, which is not the case at EK. And... although I'm not certain of this one... I believe simulator time counts towards total time, which is not the case at EK.
And the final two points is that MOST airlines enter into agreements with their unions on practical and enforced FTL's which are tailored to the particular operation and always less than the regulatory maximums. Also, there is very little consideration at EK when it comes to time zone crossings especially when doing east versus west flights as well as the mimimal effort and accomodation afforded pilots with respect to crew rest facilities or seating arrangements on long haul flights.
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It is one thing to have a limit of 1000 hours a year and a pilot clocks all hours flown even during rest on ULR flights. It is a whole different ball game if the limit is 1000 hours and a pilot only logs 50% of the flight time because he is resting 50% of the time, again in the ULR case.
There are some un-named operators who count 50% of flight time and still want the newer 1000 limit! This will push the crew into uncharted territories.
There are some un-named operators who count 50% of flight time and still want the newer 1000 limit! This will push the crew into uncharted territories.
