Life after EK

[Mirv]

Donpizmeov,

check your pms....

[RINGAdingding]

11 more

where did my original thread go?

11 more leaving 3 this month 8 next month 4 capts and 4 fos

1.5 hulls per month 8 recruits if lucky.

cannot see the current situation working. Unless im missing something!

Very ho hum

[waldorfin]

Nonsense

For those of you truly interested in EK please don’t believe this. Follow the threads and you will see what kind of gentleman is posting these inaccuracies. EK is doing well, just placed a massive order with Boeing, hopefully this will be the last of the AB orders.

[Led Zeppelin]

Waldo

You would appear to be FACTUALLY INCORRECT according to the information on the web site.

Now run along and play with the other 3 year olds.

[waldorfin]

Great Band
Now, to what “web site” would you be alluding.

[Ahad Adump]

Waldork, old pal.

Go to crew portal
go to web applications
go to rosters
click on duty
type "rg"
scroll through all dates
when it's his last day you will see crew name
add all names together
easy

why mislead others?
it's like saying to your friend: "kids, best thing ever, you must try it"
then when they steal his booze and water it down to keep bottle at same level, he will know........you mislead him.

[waldorfin]

Let me try and expose what is going on here. If one had to believe fools like Shake, Ratpoison, excrement etc to many looser’s to name, there would be no more drivers in EK. Fact is people are joining. Yes some are leaving however the attrition rate is comparatively low when compared to airlines of a sort.
These guys hide behind this web site and try dissuading people out there joining. Meanwhile they stay!! Funny isn’t it. What they are trying to achieve borders fraudulent. They are keeping wanabee’s away so that they can satisfy their glutinous greed in hope and sway that they will get a pay rise. Shameful I say. But that is exactly what is going on. If they were so unhappy they would just leave. FACT; they don’t. No arguing that one looser’s. Oh they will insult me and try and confuse you all with nonsense. If you are thinking of joining DO IT. Stay ahead of this drivel and you will be blissfully happy.

[RINGAdingding]

mr waldomuffin

my facts are just that buddy!!

at the end of nov we lose another capt and 2 FOs

At the end of Dec we lose 4 capt and 4 FOs.

you making me out to be a liar on this issue is extremely distasteful and stinks of excrement!!

Now then if you want to see the facts buddy go to crew portal go to rosters then DUTY type in RG then scroll and click end of NOV OR DEC whichever you prefer click CAPT and FO box and voila you have your FACTS!!

my comment is purely to let the UNINFORMED know that this place is far far from the holy aviation grail that people are searching for. So why are you worried!!

Keep Recovering!!

[kokkos]

Mr balonchin, I think you have been made.
I can confirm the figures on crew portal, as reported and confirmed by Ring, Led & Dump
You obviously do not have access to this portal and are a fraud.

Things are not good here. Unless you are living in a dumpster and dress your kids in newspaper, stay where you are. Wait until things improve before joining. See all EK related threads, same message everywhere.

[00bultril]

Hey Wally

NO one said EK has no pilots left (yet).
The resignation rate is % wise the highest in EK history.

Something is wrong

You can't attack guys for posting facts, or are you running scared that your dream job is turning to fudge and you might uproot the family again.......and start at the bottom again.

That is if you are an EK driver at all.

[SecurID]

Waldorfin,

I used to read your posts and would agree with you in some aspects and consider even that you had a healthy attitude towards to the never ending negativity posted here, this despite the fact that I have also posted negatively myself. Your intelligent and sometimes pragmatic views were a healthy antithesis to some of the less informed opinions expressed.

However, what you have stated here now is both factually incorrect and uncharacteristically emotional. I now have to agree with the previous posts and say that you do not appear to be who you claim to be.

If anyone is in doubt, at the end of November 1 Captain and 2 First Officers left Emirates. At the end of December 4 Captains and 4 First Officers depart the sandpit (one Captain has already left despite being included in the December figures.) As a percentage that represents 0.6% in one month alone, that is certainly a statistic that cannot be ignored.

For those of you reading this that are not familiar with Emirates' crew portal, we have the ability to esaily see who has resigned each month as described below, this is a fact and anyone disputing this has nothing to do with Emirates' Flight Operations department.

Why some people claim that this existence, for that's what it is, is a pseudo Nirvana is beyond me. Life in Dubai is a struggle, life working for Emirates is constantly without recognition (ok, granted, one carefully worded letter from AAR) and the hours per month flown are steadily increasing.

[waldorfin]

You guys are pathetic. Offer a little resistance and you’re a ****. Grow up lads.
“Life’s a struggle in Dxb”. Now it’s against comments like that that I want. OK I was wrong about the resignations. I verified them. I remain sceptic though. What’s happened to all the Safa’s that were meant to leave. For every rumour of resignation one hears perhaps less than one in a good number materialises. Deny that!
We have also got to a stage in EK when we can expect some resignations. People have done their time and want to go home. What irritates me is those amongst us riding this and twisting it into negative martyrdom.
If you’re unhappy in EK go home quietly, don’t bring down the morale for the rest of us. EK is growing, it is no longer the flying club that it was a few years ago. With that comes adaptation towards change. Some of the change runs against out favour but the most of it secures somewhat of a future. I am willing to accept that. I left my last company because I was unwilling to accept what was going on there. As a grown up I sourced the industry, found an alternative and presto. I didn’t hide behind an anonymous forum bleating myself into hysteria in the hope that I could change the management of a billion dirham company. What fools you are.
EK WILL ride out the 0.6% resignations they had this month into December, I guarantee that. Unfazed by petty individuals like your selves. The only bearing you twats have is against your own colleagues by driving their morale down with leanderthillic drivel and post dated argument.
Instead of wasting your time here get a hobby, come to the club and I will buy you all a cold one. I will even prove that I am just a driver like the rest of you. A happy one though.

[Backwater]

W.
You are not a driver like the rest of us.

[ratpoison]

EK is growing, it is no longer the flying club that it was a few years ago.

Hahahahahahahahah


Waldo, I'm still trying to work out what "Loosers" are.

[ruserious]

So first you claim

As a grown up.......

then you hurl insults like

The only bearing you twats have is against your own colleagues by driving their morale down with leanderthillic drivel and post dated argument.

Sounds to me like you have a little growing up to do

[Quod Boy]

Waldorf,
I think you are that other saddo "Dropp" in disguise.

Either that or you work in the office of official EK propaganda or you sure would fit in if youve not found it yet.

You sure aint a pilot,at least not a real one who works the line,training, or receives CRS rosters.

Try the Disney site you will find what youre looking for.

QB

[7x7]

EK WILL ride out the 0.6% resignations they had this month into December, I guarantee that. Unfazed by petty individuals like your selves.

Wally, (or should I call you by what obviously is your first name, ‘Yewara’?), I agree with you entirely on this point. It’s how EK will ride out these resignations that is causing all the angst here, for we all know they do it squeezing more the increasingly dried up lemons it already has in its crewing bowl.

I spoke to an FO on my last trip who said he’d been called by increasingly frazzled Scheduling Officers on each and every day of his four days off immediately preceding his flight asking him to work on his days off. I know I was called twice in two days, and the hapless Scheduler apologised to me on one occasion if he was ringing me twice making the same request, as he’d lost track of how many people he’d called asking someone to crew that particular flight.

Another fellow I spoke to at CBC (one of our most senior 777 captains) told me told me he’d been called out and had been offered a choice of three flights that they couldn’t crew that day.

We all know how they’ll fix the problem, the same way they’ve fixed any problem in the past – by unilaterally changing the contract so that people MUST accept changes to their roster that involve working on a day off.

Wally, you’re either that ‘bound_for_dubai’ kid from the Canadian pilot shop who works for Kraft cheese who thinks that when you (one day) turn up for an interview with EK the recruitment board are going to be really impressed when you explain to them the incredibly inventive way you stuck up for the company against their pilot naysayers way back in 2005. Or you’re what’s been suggested already – an HR weenie who’s been tasked with dousing the flames of discontent against EK on the Aviation World Wide Web to get those recruits coming in again.

Whatever you are, you’re certainly not an EK line pilot, for you all too often display total ignorance of what any EK line pilot would – or should – know about the everyday life of an EK line pilot, and you studiously avoid any questions put to you that would require you to dsplay such knowledge. (Your ignorance of the Crew Portal comes to mind.)

As for your comments about what you say to your FOs before a flight to ensure a positive atmosphere on the flight deck, (see the other thread), I think that proves without a shadow of a doubt that you’ve never flown a multi crewed aircraft in your life. Or at least I hope it does, ‘cos if you got through the tortuous EK recruiting process with an attitude like that, that process has changed a lot since I went through it.

Lastly, the majority of the 16 Yapeas who were going to resign to go home to the job in SA didn’t go because the job fell through. That fact, (and one that many of us suspected would be the case from very early in the piece) doesn’t change the fact that their resignations were – and continue to be – written and waiting only for a solid job offer before being submitted.

[white rat]

Interesting spat - puerile as usual.

Tried the Portal RG trick only got 3 names for December. One skipper has lost his licence, other two guys I don't know.

Looks like there are 28 new joiners planned in December and 40 in January. Of course, some may not show up for the courses. But it looks like people are still interested, despite the comments (mostly true I must say, though a little overblown sometimes) posted here.

save the flaming, I am back to lurking

[waldorfin]

The same old names appear.

I never said we don’t work hard. Back in the 310 days a very bold doc walked into managements office and insisted certain drivers be taken off the roster because in her mind we were over worked.
The Rat said it. Many more will join. We have a problem in EK whereby crewing is done by another department. Both heads despise each other and we are left in the middle. Decisions take just that much longer. This is not utopia, I agree, but its not the furnace some of you describe.
Gentlemen, all I am saying is that the company is expanding at a rate of knots and that in itself produces more problems than otherwise. On the other hand though it does offer more jobs in our industry. We have guys out there who are unemployed. That’s a reality of the 21st century that we as pilots have to face. EK has continually bucked that trend. Surely we can be thankful for that fact. I have mate’s in all levels of the industry and I can tell you that being called out on days off is definitely not synonymous to EK.

[Mistah Kurtz]

Waldorfin, IF you are, as you claim an Emirates pilot, I find it deeply disturbing given your tenuous grip on reality.

The resignation rate IS at an all time high and with large aircraft orders that is a serious problem, we in Emirates are rightly wondering when that problem is going to be addressed and if they will do so in time to prevent irreversible problems in the future