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The SAMA pilot’s salary scale
Benefit Captain SF/O F/O S/O
earning US$ US$ 10,500 $ 7500 $5000 $3000
Saudi Riyal SR 39,500 SR 28,200 SR 18,800 SR11300
Riyal exchange rate May ‘06 US $1 =3.75 €1 = 4.82 £1 =7.06
BREAKDOWN
➢ Salary $ 6000 $ 4000 $ 2000 $1000
➢ Transport $ 400 $ 300 $ 300 $300
➢ Housing $ 2000 $ 1500 $ 1500 $1000
Home ticket month$ 100 $ 100 $ 100 $60
➢ Medical cover $ 60 $ 60 $ 60 $60
➢earning garan $ 8560 $ 5960 $ 3960 $ 2420
➢ Sector pay $35 $ 25 $ 15 $10
SECTOR PAY EXPECTATION(50 to 60 per month)
$1750- $2000 $1250 - $1500 $750 - $900 $500 -$600
Instructors premium: (monthly)
➢ Check airman/ examiner (DE) $4000
➢ Check airman / Line training / examiner (CE) $3000
➢ Simulator instructor (SI) $2000 $2000 $2000
➢ Ground school instructor (GI) $500 $500 $500
In addition all instructors get a four sector credit for each day of simulator or full day of ground school training
ADDITIONAL CREW COSTS ITEMS:
➢ License cost Company cost Company cost Company cost Company cost
➢ Flight instructor certification Company cost Company cost Company cost
➢ Ground instructor approval Company cost
➢ License medical $ Actual $ Actual $ Actual $ Actual
➢ Uniform FOC FOC FOC FOC
➢ Moving allowance (once off) $3000 $3000 $3000 Nil
➢ Residence permits Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
➢ Certification issues Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
➢ Indoc and recurrent training (1) Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
➢ Future salary indexing Board approval Board approval Board approval Board approval
➢ Termination bonus Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining
➢ Profit sharing Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed
(1) All pilots will complete an introduction training program
INFORMATION:
Based on the above we will have four grades of pilots.
1. Captains,
2. Senior First Officer,
3. First Officer and
4. Second Officer.
The minimum qualification for initial employment in category each would be as follows:
➢ Captain: total not less than 4000 hours on aircraft over 50 tonnes. 2000 hours command on type.
➢ SF/O: Total hours sufficient to be issued an ATP, not less than 2000 hours on B737 or equivalent.
➢ F/O: Total hours 1000 not less than 500 on B7373 or equivalent.
➢ S/O: Total hours 200+ with no airline or jet experience.
o No S/O’s will be hired in 2006
The minimum qualification for upgrade to each category:
➢ Captain: Upgrade to Captain requires 4000 hours total time on aircraft over 50 tonnes with not less than 2000 hours on B737 or equivalent, and six months in the company.
➢ SF/O: Hold an ATP, 2000 hours on B737 or similar aircraft over 50 tonnes.
➢ F/O: Total hours 1000 hours with not less than 500 hours on B737 or equivalent and completed their ATP exams
FAQ / Additional information:
➢ Vacation approved and paid by the company 41 calendar days.
➢ Minimum leave days to be booked at anyone time are five
➢ Seniority will be based on date of entry
o Where two pilots join on the same date they will be allocated seniority on heavy jet experience and date of birth.
➢ Promotional opportunities will be offered to internal candidates, which are considered suitable and have the required experience level, ahead of direct entry Captains.
➢ We plan to introduce life style rostering as soon as possible. This will entail giving a block of “OFF” days in each roster period.
➢ The roster period will be a 28 day block.
➢ Roster planning will be based on an equalised roster
➢ The Flight Time limitation will be based of the FAA rules with daily flight hours limits.
➢ The expected flight hours per month will 87 hours.
➢ Bidding for OFF day will be considered.
➢ Transport: we will not provide transport. There is no public transport that is worth talking about so it would be rent a car or take a taxi. We are making an allowance towards transport of $300 per month which is SR 1125. The typical cost from the city centre to the airport is SR 75 each way. From the compounds it is less expensive between SR40 and SR 60. To buy new a Honda civic size is about SR 1000 to 1600 a month, while a top of the range Accord, a Hummer or small Mercedes Benz is SR 1600 to SR 2200 per month.
➢ Accommodation varies greatly, depending on which compound you are living. A single bedroom apartment (mid range) will cost SR 35,000 ($9400) per year up to SR 65,000 ($17400) per year for a three bedroom two bathroom villa. In another compound (the most expensive) a two bedroom two bathroom will cost SR 110,000 ($29,400) per year. We will provide accommodation until your residence (Iquama) permit is issued when you will be in a position to arrange your own accommodation. During that time you will not get the accommodation allowance.
➢ We do not provide any schooling allowance.
➢ Sector pay: a flight from A to B is called a sector, the return flight is a second sector. Most days you can expect to do 4 to 6 sector per day. We will be operating to FAA flight time limitations.
➢ Hours: The objective is to fly as close to 1000 hours per year as possible. From a planning view point that is going to be 950 +/-. We will have a 28 day schedule cycles (block) with 13 cycles in the year. The blocks will not be bid but will be allocated on an equality basis. Everyone will end up with about the same number of hours/sectors per month. After vacation and training is taken out of the productivity picture there will be 11 blocks of 28 days. On that basis you can expect to fly between 80 and 90 hours every 28 days. The schedule will be written around pilot productivity
Benefit Captain SF/O F/O S/O
earning US$ US$ 10,500 $ 7500 $5000 $3000
Saudi Riyal SR 39,500 SR 28,200 SR 18,800 SR11300
Riyal exchange rate May ‘06 US $1 =3.75 €1 = 4.82 £1 =7.06
BREAKDOWN
➢ Salary $ 6000 $ 4000 $ 2000 $1000
➢ Transport $ 400 $ 300 $ 300 $300
➢ Housing $ 2000 $ 1500 $ 1500 $1000
Home ticket month$ 100 $ 100 $ 100 $60
➢ Medical cover $ 60 $ 60 $ 60 $60
➢earning garan $ 8560 $ 5960 $ 3960 $ 2420
➢ Sector pay $35 $ 25 $ 15 $10
SECTOR PAY EXPECTATION(50 to 60 per month)
$1750- $2000 $1250 - $1500 $750 - $900 $500 -$600
Instructors premium: (monthly)
➢ Check airman/ examiner (DE) $4000
➢ Check airman / Line training / examiner (CE) $3000
➢ Simulator instructor (SI) $2000 $2000 $2000
➢ Ground school instructor (GI) $500 $500 $500
In addition all instructors get a four sector credit for each day of simulator or full day of ground school training
ADDITIONAL CREW COSTS ITEMS:
➢ License cost Company cost Company cost Company cost Company cost
➢ Flight instructor certification Company cost Company cost Company cost
➢ Ground instructor approval Company cost
➢ License medical $ Actual $ Actual $ Actual $ Actual
➢ Uniform FOC FOC FOC FOC
➢ Moving allowance (once off) $3000 $3000 $3000 Nil
➢ Residence permits Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
➢ Certification issues Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
➢ Indoc and recurrent training (1) Company pay Company pay Company pay Company pay
➢ Future salary indexing Board approval Board approval Board approval Board approval
➢ Termination bonus Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining Zero in year 1 and 2. Half month salary in year 3 and 4 backdate to date of joining and from year five one month for each completed year of service from date of joining
➢ Profit sharing Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed Not yet confirmed
(1) All pilots will complete an introduction training program
INFORMATION:
Based on the above we will have four grades of pilots.
1. Captains,
2. Senior First Officer,
3. First Officer and
4. Second Officer.
The minimum qualification for initial employment in category each would be as follows:
➢ Captain: total not less than 4000 hours on aircraft over 50 tonnes. 2000 hours command on type.
➢ SF/O: Total hours sufficient to be issued an ATP, not less than 2000 hours on B737 or equivalent.
➢ F/O: Total hours 1000 not less than 500 on B7373 or equivalent.
➢ S/O: Total hours 200+ with no airline or jet experience.
o No S/O’s will be hired in 2006
The minimum qualification for upgrade to each category:
➢ Captain: Upgrade to Captain requires 4000 hours total time on aircraft over 50 tonnes with not less than 2000 hours on B737 or equivalent, and six months in the company.
➢ SF/O: Hold an ATP, 2000 hours on B737 or similar aircraft over 50 tonnes.
➢ F/O: Total hours 1000 hours with not less than 500 hours on B737 or equivalent and completed their ATP exams
FAQ / Additional information:
➢ Vacation approved and paid by the company 41 calendar days.
➢ Minimum leave days to be booked at anyone time are five
➢ Seniority will be based on date of entry
o Where two pilots join on the same date they will be allocated seniority on heavy jet experience and date of birth.
➢ Promotional opportunities will be offered to internal candidates, which are considered suitable and have the required experience level, ahead of direct entry Captains.
➢ We plan to introduce life style rostering as soon as possible. This will entail giving a block of “OFF” days in each roster period.
➢ The roster period will be a 28 day block.
➢ Roster planning will be based on an equalised roster
➢ The Flight Time limitation will be based of the FAA rules with daily flight hours limits.
➢ The expected flight hours per month will 87 hours.
➢ Bidding for OFF day will be considered.
➢ Transport: we will not provide transport. There is no public transport that is worth talking about so it would be rent a car or take a taxi. We are making an allowance towards transport of $300 per month which is SR 1125. The typical cost from the city centre to the airport is SR 75 each way. From the compounds it is less expensive between SR40 and SR 60. To buy new a Honda civic size is about SR 1000 to 1600 a month, while a top of the range Accord, a Hummer or small Mercedes Benz is SR 1600 to SR 2200 per month.
➢ Accommodation varies greatly, depending on which compound you are living. A single bedroom apartment (mid range) will cost SR 35,000 ($9400) per year up to SR 65,000 ($17400) per year for a three bedroom two bathroom villa. In another compound (the most expensive) a two bedroom two bathroom will cost SR 110,000 ($29,400) per year. We will provide accommodation until your residence (Iquama) permit is issued when you will be in a position to arrange your own accommodation. During that time you will not get the accommodation allowance.
➢ We do not provide any schooling allowance.
➢ Sector pay: a flight from A to B is called a sector, the return flight is a second sector. Most days you can expect to do 4 to 6 sector per day. We will be operating to FAA flight time limitations.
➢ Hours: The objective is to fly as close to 1000 hours per year as possible. From a planning view point that is going to be 950 +/-. We will have a 28 day schedule cycles (block) with 13 cycles in the year. The blocks will not be bid but will be allocated on an equality basis. Everyone will end up with about the same number of hours/sectors per month. After vacation and training is taken out of the productivity picture there will be 11 blocks of 28 days. On that basis you can expect to fly between 80 and 90 hours every 28 days. The schedule will be written around pilot productivity
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hi Bomos,
that was the package they offer in 2006 with base at RUH,
now they based in DMM, the total is the same but the breakdown is
slightly diferent (housing 2700 USD in DMM , if I'm not mistaken)
Also they (plan to) change the flight allowance HOURLY not per sector.
regards
that was the package they offer in 2006 with base at RUH,
now they based in DMM, the total is the same but the breakdown is
slightly diferent (housing 2700 USD in DMM , if I'm not mistaken)
Also they (plan to) change the flight allowance HOURLY not per sector.
regards
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Hello Arba, i can see you have plenty of information in what is about to happen in sama, either you work for the company or have some friends there; yes, there is a discussion to change the sector pay to hourly pay; even the salary is going to be improved. But concerning the info on the package, it serves for those interested in joining, because it's basically the same still.
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Hy Wonder,
i hope you are fine, the company started with brazilian pilots and some american, now there are another pilots coming from asia and other countries in middle east; the group of pilots is multinational nowadays. The base is in Dammam, but there are plans for one base in Jeddah. the best way to apply is sending a c.v. through the website; good luck.
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i hope you are fine, the company started with brazilian pilots and some american, now there are another pilots coming from asia and other countries in middle east; the group of pilots is multinational nowadays. The base is in Dammam, but there are plans for one base in Jeddah. the best way to apply is sending a c.v. through the website; good luck.
br
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Arba wrote:
At US$ 2700 for housing per month, that would givee you enough mullah to stay in those neat Western Compounds around DMM or AKB.
hi Bomos,
that was the package they offer in 2006 with base at RUH,
now they based in DMM, the total is the same but the breakdown is
slightly diferent (housing 2700 USD in DMM , if I'm not mistaken)
Also they (plan to) change the flight allowance HOURLY not per sector.
regards
that was the package they offer in 2006 with base at RUH,
now they based in DMM, the total is the same but the breakdown is
slightly diferent (housing 2700 USD in DMM , if I'm not mistaken)
Also they (plan to) change the flight allowance HOURLY not per sector.
regards
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Hi all,
this is either the announcement of fantastic flights to SHJ, or has HRH realised he has lost enough watch this space
You are kindly requested to be present today Saturday November 10th at
12H00 - 3rd floor for a staff announcement.
unless you have sold your ID card!!!
this is either the announcement of fantastic flights to SHJ, or has HRH realised he has lost enough watch this space
You are kindly requested to be present today Saturday November 10th at
12H00 - 3rd floor for a staff announcement.
unless you have sold your ID card!!!
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Sama are pleased to launch our new charter services to the Emirates, flights start November 15th
Book these incredible launch fares at www.flysama.com now:
Dammam/Sharjah SR one way, including all taxes
Dammam/Abu Dhabi SRone way, including all taxes
Riyadh/Sharjah SR one way, including all taxes
Riyadh/Abu Dhabi SR one way, including all taxes
Good for them... at least now they might have the opportunity to make money...
Mutt
Book these incredible launch fares at www.flysama.com now:
Dammam/Sharjah SR one way, including all taxes
Dammam/Abu Dhabi SRone way, including all taxes
Riyadh/Sharjah SR one way, including all taxes
Riyadh/Abu Dhabi SR one way, including all taxes
Good for them... at least now they might have the opportunity to make money...
Mutt
Last edited by mutt; 11th Nov 2007 at 17:28.