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I'm glad to see this thread getting back on track - please keep your interpersonal bickering off the thread & hurl abuse at each other by PM or email.
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ANSA whilst what you say is true, you are missing a very important point. In the regions you chose to compare (UK, AUS and EU) they monitor consumer prices and workers through various agreements generally have thier sallaries adjusted to at least match this increase. This does not happen in Dubai unless you were one of the "local" government employees recently. The guy doing the job I left back in Oz is being paid 50% more than when I was doing it. (Maybe he's just that much better, I don't know). By contrast the sallary for the FO job I started with here has gone up about 13%. Yet which place has had the highest inflation over the same period?? Dubai is way ahead. Sure petrol etc is cheaper in Dubai but as a % of take home cash, things have risen significantly.
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With market forces in place in the EU and the USA the economy has a suppply and demand that works. In the present form gas prices are now cheaper in the US than in the UAE. The UAE jacked their prices a couple of months ago to about 6.75 dhs a imp gallon. The US saw their prices rise as well when oil was $70 a barrel. Now with the price of crude around $57 a barrel the price per gallon in the states and especially the southern states is near $2 a gallon. The price has come down a little bit in the US while the price is the same in the market controlled UAE.
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Even at $2 a gallon (which you will only find in a few Southern Cities like Dallas TX, and then only at the discount gas stations, the average is still more like $2.30 across the country), that is 7.35 UAE dirhams. So I am still trying to work out where you get the statement that gas prices in the US are now cheaper than the UAE. Thats just not true. Maybe I am missing something, so please enlighten me.
P.S When I got fuel last night it was 6.25 dirhams a gallon. And there are reports in the media here that with the dropping oil price the petrol price will be lowered in the new year.
P.S When I got fuel last night it was 6.25 dirhams a gallon. And there are reports in the media here that with the dropping oil price the petrol price will be lowered in the new year.
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Don't forget that an imperial gallon is smaller than a US gallon and even at 6.25 dhs per gallon that is $1.70. Plus the 25% for the difference between both sides of the Atlantic gallons and you are above $2 a gallon. I filled up about 2 1/2 weeks ago in Orlando and it was $2.09 a US gallon. (53 cents a liter). I think if I am doing the math right that is in the ballpark as we like to say. Keep in mind that the UAE is the 5th largest producer of oil in the world and that would lend you to think that gas would be cheaper here than in the states but again my math could be wrong.
Media reports that the price of gas "might" drop next year? That proves my point to the T. There is no supply and demand here. Gas prices and everything else should fluctuate almost daily. Not 2-3 times a year.
As MAX AB says with very cheap labor here why are prices so high? There should be some relationship here between prices and wages and I don't think there is any relationship. Just my two cents worth.
Media reports that the price of gas "might" drop next year? That proves my point to the T. There is no supply and demand here. Gas prices and everything else should fluctuate almost daily. Not 2-3 times a year.
As MAX AB says with very cheap labor here why are prices so high? There should be some relationship here between prices and wages and I don't think there is any relationship. Just my two cents worth.
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gl69 Habibi. The Imperial gallon is bigger than the USG. Try checking you wizz wheel. 1 USG gallon = 0.83 of a Imperial (proper) Gallon.
Please do your maths again dude.
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Please do your maths again dude.
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Yeh please check your figures again mate. I think your 2 cents worth is actually worth about 1.3 cents, and maybe you need to reheat that food you were offering for thought.
If you think the U.S gas price is purely left to the whims of the market to set price, you are very mistaken. It is a huge political issue in the states to keep the fuel price low. With everyone driving ridiculously huge "trucks" there, if the Federal government allowed fuel prices to go to the levels seen in Europe or Australia, there would be a revolution. In addition to this there are price wars between the gas companies, and at the other end of the spectrum, there is profiteering, where the companies agree to keep prices at a certain level to make sure they look after profits. In addition to this there is the usual opportunism, where the the gas company knows that everyone fills up the day before a long weekend holiday, so jacks up the price.
Sorry but I am more than happy to know that here, anytime I want to fill up the car, it will be 6.25 dirhams a gallon. No shocks, no surprises, no shopping around for the best price, no shopping at a certain chain of supermarket to get a special price on my fuel.
If you think the U.S gas price is purely left to the whims of the market to set price, you are very mistaken. It is a huge political issue in the states to keep the fuel price low. With everyone driving ridiculously huge "trucks" there, if the Federal government allowed fuel prices to go to the levels seen in Europe or Australia, there would be a revolution. In addition to this there are price wars between the gas companies, and at the other end of the spectrum, there is profiteering, where the companies agree to keep prices at a certain level to make sure they look after profits. In addition to this there is the usual opportunism, where the the gas company knows that everyone fills up the day before a long weekend holiday, so jacks up the price.
Sorry but I am more than happy to know that here, anytime I want to fill up the car, it will be 6.25 dirhams a gallon. No shocks, no surprises, no shopping around for the best price, no shopping at a certain chain of supermarket to get a special price on my fuel.
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Okay, I admit it I am an IDIOT! I slide the figures the wrong way and got the wrong answer. My bad.
But can we all agree that the price of gas should be lower than what it is in the UAE? In the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia the price is around 55 cents a gallon.
Let's not start comparing the US with the island continent of Australlia. First of all our cars are not "ridiculously big". They fit our families very nicely because after all most of us Americans are obese.
The government does not market interference. Sure they do not like high gas prices but there is very little they can do about it besides lowering the tax on a gallon of gas.
Also if you take into account that Dubai is a tax free Emirate and the US taxes its gas depending on the state about 60-85 cents a gallon the US is way cheaper. I know it is what you are paying for the gas that matters not how much the government is getting in the end but if you take into account what I just metioned the US is cheaper for gas. Without taxes in Florida the price for a gallon of gas would be around $1.60.
Secondly the US government would never allow the gas prices to go as high as Europe or Australlia because they don't tax the heck out of fuel. You socialists know better than I do but gas has about 75-85% tax on it which is just criminal.
If you like the one price fits all you would have been better off living in a diffferent era, mainly the Soviet era were they told you the price and you paid it. Give me capitalism and competition anyday even with all of its faults.
I am off to math class now. If I had a brain most of you know I would not be a pilot.
But can we all agree that the price of gas should be lower than what it is in the UAE? In the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia the price is around 55 cents a gallon.
Let's not start comparing the US with the island continent of Australlia. First of all our cars are not "ridiculously big". They fit our families very nicely because after all most of us Americans are obese.
The government does not market interference. Sure they do not like high gas prices but there is very little they can do about it besides lowering the tax on a gallon of gas.
Also if you take into account that Dubai is a tax free Emirate and the US taxes its gas depending on the state about 60-85 cents a gallon the US is way cheaper. I know it is what you are paying for the gas that matters not how much the government is getting in the end but if you take into account what I just metioned the US is cheaper for gas. Without taxes in Florida the price for a gallon of gas would be around $1.60.
Secondly the US government would never allow the gas prices to go as high as Europe or Australlia because they don't tax the heck out of fuel. You socialists know better than I do but gas has about 75-85% tax on it which is just criminal.
If you like the one price fits all you would have been better off living in a diffferent era, mainly the Soviet era were they told you the price and you paid it. Give me capitalism and competition anyday even with all of its faults.
I am off to math class now. If I had a brain most of you know I would not be a pilot.
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Oui, cést bon pour moi! La prochaine semaine, quelle jour? Peut etre dimanche soir? Pour manger aussi ou seulement boivre? Je croix qui tu n'est pas une Italienne, comme tu a tres mauvaise orthographe!! Cést ne pas bon pour un Anglais, n'est pas!! A la prochaine semaine!
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Il est vrais que mon Italien est mediocre, ceci dit, Secur ID n'est pas en meilleure position .......sa syntaxe, sa grammaire et son orthographe sonnent tous faux.
C'est OK pour la semaine prochaine si ca vous dit, mais pour boire seulement, les allemends n'ont jamais ete connus pour leurs traditions culinaire a part les jarrets de porc.....bien sur!
Mais la biere au hofbrauhaus demeure etre l'une des meilleure de ce cote de l'Asie.
A bientot....
Js serai tout vetu de blanc, vous ne risquerez pas de me rater....
C'est OK pour la semaine prochaine si ca vous dit, mais pour boire seulement, les allemends n'ont jamais ete connus pour leurs traditions culinaire a part les jarrets de porc.....bien sur!
Mais la biere au hofbrauhaus demeure etre l'une des meilleure de ce cote de l'Asie.
A bientot....
Js serai tout vetu de blanc, vous ne risquerez pas de me rater....