Exodus in the sandpit????
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Exodus in the sandpit????
Reading all the posts here on the Middle East forum I am beginning to wonder whether we are actually witnessing the start of the exodus of professional personnel out of the Middle eastern carriers. Is this the beginning of the end of aviation here in the fatamorgana the middle east has always been?
• Emirates, once considered as the Walhalla for every sane pilot, the retirement heaven in Dubai, is struggling to keep up with about everything. Pilots are complaining and leaving as soon as they can, Engineers are taking off faster than the airplanes can on a search for greener pastures, Cabin crew leaves with dozens at the time because they are overstressed and overworked etc etc.
• Qatar Airways, a company that has always been short of any crew with a licence, is now even struggling more. Cabin crew is resigning with batches at the time because they simply had enough of the abuse, ALL pilots are big time viewers on the flight international site looking for another job, Engineers are not leaving in the same numbers as EK simply because QR never had the same number of engineers working for them but still they are leaving as well,…
• Etihad is being poisoned by its management and the internal political games are festering through the building like a wildfire, Few people are willing to go there, many people want to get out once they see the mess the company is in.
• GF, Oman Air, Kuwait Airways, where it is relatively quiet, simply because nothing at all is happening there…
People used to come here for the money and some people used to come here for the lifestyle. Both things now have disappeared. Huge inflation rates, rising cost of living, rising population and greedy nationals acting like small children with too many toys have made this part of the world much less attractive then it used to be.
The problem is that this is not only happening in our little world of aviation. No, it is happening throughout all the layers of this society. In all companies high level expatriates are leaving. The reason being the mistreatment by the management. People here still seem to think that you can treat everybody just like they have been treating the maid/driver/tea boy for years in a row. Hire a professional under false statements, become his sponsor, give him an RP, make up a new contract and he is stuck because now he needs a release letter to leave….
This is the basic mentality here….So nothing gets done, everybody is unhappy.
And its only going to get worse when in two years time the whole system of sponsors/release letters etc has to be stopped…
It is my opinion that what the middle east was in the eighties and nineties, is exactly what the far east will be like tomorrow. They need us there and they too have the money to pay us. So unless managements here get their acts together, they better start ordering airplanes because there is going to be no one left to fly them, maintain them, refuel them etc…
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• Emirates, once considered as the Walhalla for every sane pilot, the retirement heaven in Dubai, is struggling to keep up with about everything. Pilots are complaining and leaving as soon as they can, Engineers are taking off faster than the airplanes can on a search for greener pastures, Cabin crew leaves with dozens at the time because they are overstressed and overworked etc etc.
• Qatar Airways, a company that has always been short of any crew with a licence, is now even struggling more. Cabin crew is resigning with batches at the time because they simply had enough of the abuse, ALL pilots are big time viewers on the flight international site looking for another job, Engineers are not leaving in the same numbers as EK simply because QR never had the same number of engineers working for them but still they are leaving as well,…
• Etihad is being poisoned by its management and the internal political games are festering through the building like a wildfire, Few people are willing to go there, many people want to get out once they see the mess the company is in.
• GF, Oman Air, Kuwait Airways, where it is relatively quiet, simply because nothing at all is happening there…
People used to come here for the money and some people used to come here for the lifestyle. Both things now have disappeared. Huge inflation rates, rising cost of living, rising population and greedy nationals acting like small children with too many toys have made this part of the world much less attractive then it used to be.
The problem is that this is not only happening in our little world of aviation. No, it is happening throughout all the layers of this society. In all companies high level expatriates are leaving. The reason being the mistreatment by the management. People here still seem to think that you can treat everybody just like they have been treating the maid/driver/tea boy for years in a row. Hire a professional under false statements, become his sponsor, give him an RP, make up a new contract and he is stuck because now he needs a release letter to leave….
This is the basic mentality here….So nothing gets done, everybody is unhappy.
And its only going to get worse when in two years time the whole system of sponsors/release letters etc has to be stopped…
It is my opinion that what the middle east was in the eighties and nineties, is exactly what the far east will be like tomorrow. They need us there and they too have the money to pay us. So unless managements here get their acts together, they better start ordering airplanes because there is going to be no one left to fly them, maintain them, refuel them etc…
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Wait till airlines in India start regular flts to ME, USA and EU thats the bulk of these guys, what will happen then?
Wait till the EU LCC's start flying to ME now that will be fun for the EKs & QRs.
Wait till the EU LCC's start flying to ME now that will be fun for the EKs & QRs.
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Yes, it is time to go
Being one of those who never post here, I am pretty shocked how some guys defend every grain of sand here. Poor buggers, just where do they come from? It is not just the MAJORITY of EK pilots that are totally pissed off, it is happening in every company hiring highly skilled expats. Especially if you are from EU zone. It has come to the point when I cannot AFFORD to stay in Dubai!!!Anyway, I am rather broke back home than here, at least I will have more time on my hands and I will actually sleep at nights. And if I want to work and live in Mumbai-like environment (just a bit drier) I can do that for about 4000 US$ more. And only fly long flights. So, good luck too all, especially those who took big ass loans and got them really nice cement blocks in the sand. They will have to pay back those constantly extending loans (variable rate is such a cool thing says my banker buddy) when EK starts to loose money big time (it is not possible says my management friend!!). What a retirement plan!
Well, I'm off to be broke in a nice place...
Well, I'm off to be broke in a nice place...
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great summary of the situation here Nostradamus.
By the way it's not only difficult for people from EU zone to work here, i known some indian pilots they couldn´t even stay here, they went back home where they got better condition and threatment!
By the way it's not only difficult for people from EU zone to work here, i known some indian pilots they couldn´t even stay here, they went back home where they got better condition and threatment!
