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An interesting aside!
Allegedly - a pilot recently called crewing saying he was fatigued and could'nt do a flight. Crewing said 'we'll mark you sick'.
No, I'm fatigued!
Que - AAR doing the wall of death around his office screaming 'Fire him, Fire him'.
Seemingly, some delicate words and his job was saved.
Can't prove it, but in the present climate it's VERY possible.
Not a nice feeling here at the moment.
Allegedly - a pilot recently called crewing saying he was fatigued and could'nt do a flight. Crewing said 'we'll mark you sick'.
No, I'm fatigued!
Que - AAR doing the wall of death around his office screaming 'Fire him, Fire him'.
Seemingly, some delicate words and his job was saved.
Can't prove it, but in the present climate it's VERY possible.
Not a nice feeling here at the moment.
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Rat, you had better wait before you go shopping for that ring darling. The news thus far on profitshare is not looking all that rosey! I mean really, what can you buy on only 2weeks bonus?!
Okay now, let us summarize what has been discussed so far.
We have the "newly weds" and the öld timers" on "honeymoon" all carrying a basket of "apples and oranges" living in DisneyLand" Arguing about who is right or wrong! And along comes the "Global Nomad" bringing with him Mr. "Reality" and summoning upon the Grim Reaper himself to appear, none other than "411A". Man this is good stuff!
Okay now, let us summarize what has been discussed so far.
We have the "newly weds" and the öld timers" on "honeymoon" all carrying a basket of "apples and oranges" living in DisneyLand" Arguing about who is right or wrong! And along comes the "Global Nomad" bringing with him Mr. "Reality" and summoning upon the Grim Reaper himself to appear, none other than "411A". Man this is good stuff!
So in the last 12months, we have had:
1. Flight duty limits change;
2. Most of the Bus fellas now MFFing on three different aircraft,
3. New bid system; and
4. New way of calculating pay.
Now none of these were for the better. Points 1 thru 3 are saving the company bucket loads of money. They reduce the numbers of pilots required to get the job done. But if you chat to any of the drivers after returning from PVG, MNL or HKG Via Bkk with only two up the front, you will see that legal does not always mean safest.
But as a way of thanking the pilot body for taking all these changes on the chin. Along comes point No.4, a pay cut. Excellent. Luckily no-one else in the EKgroup has also had to have the pay cut enforced. I guess this goes hand in hand with the pilot meeting quote of quotes stating that pilot pay would not be considered in isolation to the rest of the group. But we can all feel warm inside knowing that our pay cut is now funding the record profit for the company. We are all soo proud.
Now, whenever anyone mentions that they are a bit peeved at how the company has done this to the pilot group, we get some response stating that we are malcontents. This seems to come mostly from those who have just finished unpacking after arriving, and are who still trying to prove to themselves, and former work mates family etc, that they did not make a mistake from coming over to the sand. Then again it might just be from drop the pilot who is still a bit upset on how an airline in Canada did not drop everything and offer him a job, because, after all, he does fly seriously large aircraft!
Facts are that being a pilot with EK is just another job. Better than some it would seem, and maybe not quite as good as others, but very hard to decide. I would think that an FO would have to think very hard before coming here now, as a command, although quicker than established flag carriers, will lag behind the airline down the road, where joiners will have a seniority number in the low hundreds as opposed to the low to mid thousand here.
Yes workmates are top class, and yes the equipment is all shiney, and yes the route network is good fun. But with conditions being eroded at the present rate, it may soon be well pass its useby date.
Don
1. Flight duty limits change;
2. Most of the Bus fellas now MFFing on three different aircraft,
3. New bid system; and
4. New way of calculating pay.
Now none of these were for the better. Points 1 thru 3 are saving the company bucket loads of money. They reduce the numbers of pilots required to get the job done. But if you chat to any of the drivers after returning from PVG, MNL or HKG Via Bkk with only two up the front, you will see that legal does not always mean safest.
But as a way of thanking the pilot body for taking all these changes on the chin. Along comes point No.4, a pay cut. Excellent. Luckily no-one else in the EKgroup has also had to have the pay cut enforced. I guess this goes hand in hand with the pilot meeting quote of quotes stating that pilot pay would not be considered in isolation to the rest of the group. But we can all feel warm inside knowing that our pay cut is now funding the record profit for the company. We are all soo proud.
Now, whenever anyone mentions that they are a bit peeved at how the company has done this to the pilot group, we get some response stating that we are malcontents. This seems to come mostly from those who have just finished unpacking after arriving, and are who still trying to prove to themselves, and former work mates family etc, that they did not make a mistake from coming over to the sand. Then again it might just be from drop the pilot who is still a bit upset on how an airline in Canada did not drop everything and offer him a job, because, after all, he does fly seriously large aircraft!
Facts are that being a pilot with EK is just another job. Better than some it would seem, and maybe not quite as good as others, but very hard to decide. I would think that an FO would have to think very hard before coming here now, as a command, although quicker than established flag carriers, will lag behind the airline down the road, where joiners will have a seniority number in the low hundreds as opposed to the low to mid thousand here.
Yes workmates are top class, and yes the equipment is all shiney, and yes the route network is good fun. But with conditions being eroded at the present rate, it may soon be well pass its useby date.
Don
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Very good post Donpiz!! 
Hey Ratpoison! Absolutely my friend, without humour in this business and we would all go off the deep end!!
By the way, the profit share rumour network has worked it's way up to 4 weeks now!! hehehe!
Check Six lads, BOHICA is on it's way again!!
Hey Ratpoison!
Absolutely my friend, without humour in this business and we would all go off the deep end!! By the way, the profit share rumour network has worked it's way up to 4 weeks now!! hehehe!
Check Six lads, BOHICA is on it's way again!!
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BOHICA?
But Only Had I Caught Arthritis?
Babes On Hand In Cabin Attendants?
Bad Odour Heading Into Cockpit Area?
Bus Or HGV If Certifying Again?
Breathless On Hearing Initiative Cast Aside?
Bidding Only Happens If Company Allows?
Aaaah, Could this be it....
Bend Over Here It Comes Again?
Babes On Hand In Cabin Attendants?
Bad Odour Heading Into Cockpit Area?
Bus Or HGV If Certifying Again?
Breathless On Hearing Initiative Cast Aside?
Bidding Only Happens If Company Allows?
Aaaah, Could this be it....
Bend Over Here It Comes Again?
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C6 and Slugs, are you hinting at possible ammendments or alterations to out Ts & Cs? If so, please enlighten us all in order that we may make informed choices.
BINGO??
But I Never Got Offerred! Well aren't you the very lucky ones!!
BINGO??
But I Never Got Offerred! Well aren't you the very lucky ones!!
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Secure ID my friend,
The government staff are to get 20 %, we are going to get stuff all!!
The payroll section is guessing a 2weeks bonus minimum!
And our friend TRIMOTOR has a very good point, I have heard the same. Brimg in low time pilots, just like we were once upon a time! When we first started our careers.
Not looking good for the bank balance this year AGAIN!
Cheers.
The government staff are to get 20 %, we are going to get stuff all!!
The payroll section is guessing a 2weeks bonus minimum!
And our friend TRIMOTOR has a very good point, I have heard the same. Brimg in low time pilots, just like we were once upon a time! When we first started our careers.
Not looking good for the bank balance this year AGAIN!
Cheers.
