EK Notification
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From: Dubai, U.A.E.
Opblaas pop, dit klink baie lekker!
One question only, how long have you been here? I just want to ascertain whether the honeymoon period is still in progress or not?
And whilst you are out there riding your white horse like St George! Remember this, Far greater a man has walked this path before thee and for a lot longer! So wind your neck in a few inches when refering to other colleagues' past lives. Ek only wants experienced people and that has always been the case. Most complaints about the company do not refer to money matters only. Yes a salary increase (20% plus) is well overdue, however a little bit of goodwill goes a long way. Of which there is none forth coming from this lot over here.
Check Six Boet!!
One question only, how long have you been here? I just want to ascertain whether the honeymoon period is still in progress or not?
And whilst you are out there riding your white horse like St George! Remember this, Far greater a man has walked this path before thee and for a lot longer! So wind your neck in a few inches when refering to other colleagues' past lives. Ek only wants experienced people and that has always been the case. Most complaints about the company do not refer to money matters only. Yes a salary increase (20% plus) is well overdue, however a little bit of goodwill goes a long way. Of which there is none forth coming from this lot over here.
Check Six Boet!!
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Check Six...
Perhaps I am still in the 'Honeymoon Period', however having 'been around a bit' in this industry, I do feel quallified to give a balanced judged 'oppinion'. But I do of course bow to your vastly superior knowledge of EK (You didnt write the SOP's by chance did you, seeing how worldly wise you are and all).
I DID say that EK wasn't without its problems (and neither is Dubai for that matter), but compared to many other airlines, these probs are miniscule, just ask the guys in any US carrier, Air Jamaica, MYT etc.......
Before I 'wind my neck in' after my balanced post, may I respectfully suggest you introduce some more balance in to your life, and place a chip on the other shoulder!!!!!!!!
The point remains, if it is so crap here, then bugger off somewhere else so I can move 1 place further up the seniority list and get an upgrade a month sooner. (Trust me we'd all be a lot happier)
See ya.
Perhaps I am still in the 'Honeymoon Period', however having 'been around a bit' in this industry, I do feel quallified to give a balanced judged 'oppinion'. But I do of course bow to your vastly superior knowledge of EK (You didnt write the SOP's by chance did you, seeing how worldly wise you are and all).
I DID say that EK wasn't without its problems (and neither is Dubai for that matter), but compared to many other airlines, these probs are miniscule, just ask the guys in any US carrier, Air Jamaica, MYT etc.......
Before I 'wind my neck in' after my balanced post, may I respectfully suggest you introduce some more balance in to your life, and place a chip on the other shoulder!!!!!!!!
The point remains, if it is so crap here, then bugger off somewhere else so I can move 1 place further up the seniority list and get an upgrade a month sooner. (Trust me we'd all be a lot happier)
See ya.
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From: some dive
Obla,
Please tell us all what a deal you have so that " the company pays for your phone". And by the way, what school does your kids go to where one is not out of pocket and the "company pays for all that too". Sounds as though you aint on the same deal as the other 1100 or so !!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell us all what a deal you have so that " the company pays for your phone". And by the way, what school does your kids go to where one is not out of pocket and the "company pays for all that too". Sounds as though you aint on the same deal as the other 1100 or so !!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Dubai, U.A.E.
Well, well opblaas. Your suggestion for me to pack my bags and leave so that you can move up in life explains it all for me! And if you would like to compare notes on experience sometime, I would be more than happy to put you in your place, anytime.
SOP writting? No I cant say I have had the pleasure.
So enjoy your honeymoon, and as long as you are happy with your lot in life, that's good. I will just make sure that you dont walk behind me, whilst crossing a busy street!
I'll be Checking my Six from the likes of you!
SOP writting? No I cant say I have had the pleasure.
So enjoy your honeymoon, and as long as you are happy with your lot in life, that's good. I will just make sure that you dont walk behind me, whilst crossing a busy street!
I'll be Checking my Six from the likes of you!
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Rat,
Company pays phone line rental charge, and all local calls are free anyway. Long distance/ international we pay for, but then I wouldn't expect EK to, would you??
My kids go to Horizon...... Next Question????????????
Check,
The whole point is, I'M NOT THE ONE COMPLAINING, I'm sorry you dont seem to think anyone is entitled to be happy out here. True I've only been here for a year or so, obviously nowhere near the 106 years you have been and I dont have 26 million hours in 47 different airlines like you, I merely stated that if you really are that unhappy with your lot then go somewhere else, very simple really!!!
If you can't stand the heat then get out the desert!!
I really dont want to get into a slagging match with you guys, we all work for the same firm and we should all be able to get on, however I feel it is very unfair to peeps who are looking at comming out here to only see one side of a very long complex story hence I offer my point of view. The fact is the VAST majority of the guys I fly with are happy here (although you're bound to dissagree-now there's a surprise!), and the very person who persuaded me to come here in the first place has been here 7 years!
Also why the hell would I want to sit down with you and listen to your worldly experience, I might end up as bitter and twisted as you....
Company pays phone line rental charge, and all local calls are free anyway. Long distance/ international we pay for, but then I wouldn't expect EK to, would you??
My kids go to Horizon...... Next Question????????????
Check,
The whole point is, I'M NOT THE ONE COMPLAINING, I'm sorry you dont seem to think anyone is entitled to be happy out here. True I've only been here for a year or so, obviously nowhere near the 106 years you have been and I dont have 26 million hours in 47 different airlines like you, I merely stated that if you really are that unhappy with your lot then go somewhere else, very simple really!!!
If you can't stand the heat then get out the desert!!
I really dont want to get into a slagging match with you guys, we all work for the same firm and we should all be able to get on, however I feel it is very unfair to peeps who are looking at comming out here to only see one side of a very long complex story hence I offer my point of view. The fact is the VAST majority of the guys I fly with are happy here (although you're bound to dissagree-now there's a surprise!), and the very person who persuaded me to come here in the first place has been here 7 years!
Also why the hell would I want to sit down with you and listen to your worldly experience, I might end up as bitter and twisted as you....
Joined: Dec 1999
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From: Dubai, U.A.E.
Much better amigo!
I agree that all the folks out there who wish to come here are welcome. However, they must know that with time spent here, certain realities and facts of EK life must be known. These are not complaints but experience that comes from coming here myself "106 million"years ago as you put it, and also being in the honeymoon phase. Oh yes! Big time honeymoon my friend and esteemed colleague, I was over the moon to be here. Now having always been a very optimistic and positive person, I have become rather cynical. Why?
Simple really, I did not consider myself as a contract pilot when I came here 11 years ago (My fault). And now I look at how greed and fear motivation has set in with the whole set up here, that it concerns me very much. Hopefully our leaders will hear our concerns, but as has been proven time and time again, it falls on deaf ears. The standard reply is.....If you dont like it leave! Yes I would very much like too. And there are always options in life.
Okay!?
Time will tell! Once again, enjoy the honeymoon. Mine lasted 6 years!! I hope yours lasts for ever. And I sincerely mean that!
No hard feelings! I mean, after all we will at some point be sharing that little office of ours in the sky sometime! See Ya!
Check Six
I agree that all the folks out there who wish to come here are welcome. However, they must know that with time spent here, certain realities and facts of EK life must be known. These are not complaints but experience that comes from coming here myself "106 million"years ago as you put it, and also being in the honeymoon phase. Oh yes! Big time honeymoon my friend and esteemed colleague, I was over the moon to be here. Now having always been a very optimistic and positive person, I have become rather cynical. Why?
Simple really, I did not consider myself as a contract pilot when I came here 11 years ago (My fault). And now I look at how greed and fear motivation has set in with the whole set up here, that it concerns me very much. Hopefully our leaders will hear our concerns, but as has been proven time and time again, it falls on deaf ears. The standard reply is.....If you dont like it leave! Yes I would very much like too. And there are always options in life.
Okay!?
Time will tell! Once again, enjoy the honeymoon. Mine lasted 6 years!! I hope yours lasts for ever. And I sincerely mean that!
No hard feelings! I mean, after all we will at some point be sharing that little office of ours in the sky sometime! See Ya!
Check Six
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Indeed no hard feelings, and your point is taken on board.
I too hope that I continue to enjoy it here (after all I do have well over 2 decades left until retirement), and I am genuinely sorry that you do not like it here as much as you once did. Lets hope the supposed huge pilot pool dries up and no-one joins, only then will the T's and C's improve back towards where they should be! Unfortunately it will mean harder work for us all in the short term!
Take it easy!!
I too hope that I continue to enjoy it here (after all I do have well over 2 decades left until retirement), and I am genuinely sorry that you do not like it here as much as you once did. Lets hope the supposed huge pilot pool dries up and no-one joins, only then will the T's and C's improve back towards where they should be! Unfortunately it will mean harder work for us all in the short term!
Take it easy!!
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From: EK Clinic (Fatigue Section)
Oblaaspop,
I am very happy you are having a ball here and it is great to hear that you are enjoying Dubai life.
You are however comparing apples with oranges. MYT is a littlle outfit in the UK with huge financial problems flying holidaymakers around the med and other holiday destinations some where in the world for specific tour operators for minimal money. This probably explains why you have such low expectations from Emirates and for lifestyle all together. Emirates cannot be compared with the likes of MYT, Monarch, Britannia, etc, although some of the above are much better to work for...... Emirates is an ""award winning"" airline with global aspirations, with aviation world firsts with massive orders and with huge profits. (So they say, so I will go along with it) If Emirates is treating us like they do today, Imagine what is going to happen when they start losing money....(and trust me it will happen as it happens to all airlines eventualy)
You might be lucky as you say and have a great villa and all is rosy for you, but what about the guys who were kicked out of their villa over the holidays with one months notice and no financial backing from the company? (They had been here for a long time, and these guys did not write the SOPs nor did they deserve this treatment for good loyal years to Emirates. This would have never happened in a realy good company, but then again we are almost in the Subcontinent.....) Do you think it is not going to happen to you? What about the Exchange rate protection that used to be with no upper limits and it changed for all of the guys overnight who were here before you? Do you seriously believe that they will not change the contract in the future to suit them? What about the new terms and conditions regarding overtime? Do you seriously believe that the new system is fair and just? Do you think we should not get credit for standby days? Do you think we should not get credit for working in the office? Do you think you should not get paid when you are called in to do support simulator? Do you think that working 900 hours block time and getting 35 % less with the new systemthan the old system is the way forward? Do you seriously believe that the way forward is working your ass off to get what you earned 5 years ago with less work? Do not tell me that this is the future in aviation because it is not the way most of us see it. You on the other hand might like to torture yourself and enjoy flying 900 hours on the back side of the clock in which case you should request all the subcontinent flights... Hey it will be part of your corporate induction of "Keep Discovering". Maybe this is the future for the likes of MYT or Easyjet etc, but that is why most of us did not join those outfits, nor do we want to join those outfits. Emirates attracted us here because they claimed to be on par with the other true global players of aviation. BA, Virgin, Cathay and others have changed their T&Cs for the new guys not for those who joined the airline earlier. (Virgin by the way has improved their T&Cs as they expand and get bigger, so employees enjoy the benefits of their hard work...)
If you want to come down here and fly for free I could care less. If you love sleeping on the airplane and you are happy to work for less go ahead (While you are at it give us your profit share this year, and get those guys who you claim are enjoying Emirates to pitch in <they might of course be DECs so pass, or of course if you tell them how great it is here they probably see in you the nect TCK so they do not need to get hauled in to the office to facilitate your way up the corporate ladder>).
What those of us who have realy been around are saying is that Emirates might look like a national flag carrier, it might claim to be one, but it does not treat it's people as one. You do not know what it means to fly for a Flag carrier as you have only flown for the likes of MYT. You are not an expert on conditions of carriers like BA, Virgin, Cathay, United, South African Airways, Airfrance etc.
You can only compare apples with oranges, so before you get all excitted and have an opinion about what aviation is all about go back to the UK (On your 15 days off, and ask one of the BA or Virgin long haul pilots to tell you what it is all about)
You might have airplane experience, you might be good with reading manuals and SOPs (Hey I am sure you are much better than me at airmanship) but you are an adolescent when it comes to knowing what is good and what is bad because just like teenagers you have seen a little bit and you think you know the world.....
Either arrogant or naive, but too stuck up to see it, and so you will go on and learn the hard way through University of Hard Knocks what Emirates career holds for you.....
I am very happy you are having a ball here and it is great to hear that you are enjoying Dubai life.
You are however comparing apples with oranges. MYT is a littlle outfit in the UK with huge financial problems flying holidaymakers around the med and other holiday destinations some where in the world for specific tour operators for minimal money. This probably explains why you have such low expectations from Emirates and for lifestyle all together. Emirates cannot be compared with the likes of MYT, Monarch, Britannia, etc, although some of the above are much better to work for...... Emirates is an ""award winning"" airline with global aspirations, with aviation world firsts with massive orders and with huge profits. (So they say, so I will go along with it) If Emirates is treating us like they do today, Imagine what is going to happen when they start losing money....(and trust me it will happen as it happens to all airlines eventualy)
You might be lucky as you say and have a great villa and all is rosy for you, but what about the guys who were kicked out of their villa over the holidays with one months notice and no financial backing from the company? (They had been here for a long time, and these guys did not write the SOPs nor did they deserve this treatment for good loyal years to Emirates. This would have never happened in a realy good company, but then again we are almost in the Subcontinent.....) Do you think it is not going to happen to you? What about the Exchange rate protection that used to be with no upper limits and it changed for all of the guys overnight who were here before you? Do you seriously believe that they will not change the contract in the future to suit them? What about the new terms and conditions regarding overtime? Do you seriously believe that the new system is fair and just? Do you think we should not get credit for standby days? Do you think we should not get credit for working in the office? Do you think you should not get paid when you are called in to do support simulator? Do you think that working 900 hours block time and getting 35 % less with the new systemthan the old system is the way forward? Do you seriously believe that the way forward is working your ass off to get what you earned 5 years ago with less work? Do not tell me that this is the future in aviation because it is not the way most of us see it. You on the other hand might like to torture yourself and enjoy flying 900 hours on the back side of the clock in which case you should request all the subcontinent flights... Hey it will be part of your corporate induction of "Keep Discovering". Maybe this is the future for the likes of MYT or Easyjet etc, but that is why most of us did not join those outfits, nor do we want to join those outfits. Emirates attracted us here because they claimed to be on par with the other true global players of aviation. BA, Virgin, Cathay and others have changed their T&Cs for the new guys not for those who joined the airline earlier. (Virgin by the way has improved their T&Cs as they expand and get bigger, so employees enjoy the benefits of their hard work...)
If you want to come down here and fly for free I could care less. If you love sleeping on the airplane and you are happy to work for less go ahead (While you are at it give us your profit share this year, and get those guys who you claim are enjoying Emirates to pitch in <they might of course be DECs so pass, or of course if you tell them how great it is here they probably see in you the nect TCK so they do not need to get hauled in to the office to facilitate your way up the corporate ladder>).
What those of us who have realy been around are saying is that Emirates might look like a national flag carrier, it might claim to be one, but it does not treat it's people as one. You do not know what it means to fly for a Flag carrier as you have only flown for the likes of MYT. You are not an expert on conditions of carriers like BA, Virgin, Cathay, United, South African Airways, Airfrance etc.
You can only compare apples with oranges, so before you get all excitted and have an opinion about what aviation is all about go back to the UK (On your 15 days off, and ask one of the BA or Virgin long haul pilots to tell you what it is all about)
You might have airplane experience, you might be good with reading manuals and SOPs (Hey I am sure you are much better than me at airmanship) but you are an adolescent when it comes to knowing what is good and what is bad because just like teenagers you have seen a little bit and you think you know the world.....
Either arrogant or naive, but too stuck up to see it, and so you will go on and learn the hard way through University of Hard Knocks what Emirates career holds for you.....
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From: HKG
CptKavia,
Your words
"Cathay and others have changed their T&Cs for the new guys not for those who joined the airline earlier"
only go to show
"You are not an expert on conditions of carriers like BA, Virgin, Cathay,"
I'm not an expert on EK but I can assure you CX have broken my contract, for the worse, 3 times since 1993.
I hope your facts about EK are more accurate!
Your words
"Cathay and others have changed their T&Cs for the new guys not for those who joined the airline earlier"
only go to show
"You are not an expert on conditions of carriers like BA, Virgin, Cathay,"
I'm not an expert on EK but I can assure you CX have broken my contract, for the worse, 3 times since 1993.
I hope your facts about EK are more accurate!
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From: ME
BusyB;
Breach of contract is one thing, the bottom line is the other and EK is at the bottom of any of the payscales of the carriers you mentioned.
As far as I am aware both BA and Virgin have not breached any contract made with their pilots, to do so would lead to legal repercussions. This does not mean that changes have not been made but any that have have not been made arbitrarily without consulation with the pilot body...unlike EK which can, has and continues to impliment changes as and when it likes.
Well said Kavia.
Breach of contract is one thing, the bottom line is the other and EK is at the bottom of any of the payscales of the carriers you mentioned.
As far as I am aware both BA and Virgin have not breached any contract made with their pilots, to do so would lead to legal repercussions. This does not mean that changes have not been made but any that have have not been made arbitrarily without consulation with the pilot body...unlike EK which can, has and continues to impliment changes as and when it likes.
Well said Kavia.
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From: EK Clinic (Fatigue Section)
BusyB,
Emirates never has and never will pay what Cathay A scale or even B scale pays. My next door neighbour in the Uk is ex Cathay A scale and earned around 20000 GBP back in 97. Back in 97 Emirates Captains were earning just over over 20000 Dirhams so a huge difference there.... He also left with a golden hand shake of 3 million pounds..... Ah I only wish..... it probably explains why some of our guys who have the balls to make a move are going to Dragon Air as F/Os and leaving a current Command with Emirates.....
I am not expecting these guys to make a difference here, nor will things change for the better because these guys are leaving. I, just like so many others here are looking for better opportunities, and believe me they are popping up, so I guess one of the good things about the future is that command might be quicker for those joining not only because of expansion but also because of attrition.... But if you think that getting your command with Emirates will solve all your problems, or that it is career long move then seriously good luck with your thinking...
Emirates never has and never will pay what Cathay A scale or even B scale pays. My next door neighbour in the Uk is ex Cathay A scale and earned around 20000 GBP back in 97. Back in 97 Emirates Captains were earning just over over 20000 Dirhams so a huge difference there.... He also left with a golden hand shake of 3 million pounds..... Ah I only wish..... it probably explains why some of our guys who have the balls to make a move are going to Dragon Air as F/Os and leaving a current Command with Emirates.....
I am not expecting these guys to make a difference here, nor will things change for the better because these guys are leaving. I, just like so many others here are looking for better opportunities, and believe me they are popping up, so I guess one of the good things about the future is that command might be quicker for those joining not only because of expansion but also because of attrition.... But if you think that getting your command with Emirates will solve all your problems, or that it is career long move then seriously good luck with your thinking...
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From: Varies!
CptKavla
Why do you have to 'believe' what Emirates tell you when they 'say' they're making record profit.Surely you were able to see it for your own eyes last year when your bank balance increased by an additional 10 weeks pay? That is probably why your 'next door neighbour' from Cathay who earned the big bucks is....your next door neighbour! If things really are as bad as you say then why are there guys here from the wonderful world of Virgin and B.A and SAA and i'm not talking DEC's either.You criticize Oblaaspop, rather rudely, for being arrogant or naive yet it is you who are both. Arrogantly believing that you are entitled to earning the big bucks like your Cathay friend and naively believing that there are Airlines out there that pay them.
Oblaaspop may have only been here a year and having worked for MYT,may not have enjoyed the best T & C's but at least he had the guts to do something about it and leave an Employer that wasn't meeting his expectations.
Perhaps YOU should take a leaf out of his 'less experienced book' and do the same.
Why do you have to 'believe' what Emirates tell you when they 'say' they're making record profit.Surely you were able to see it for your own eyes last year when your bank balance increased by an additional 10 weeks pay? That is probably why your 'next door neighbour' from Cathay who earned the big bucks is....your next door neighbour! If things really are as bad as you say then why are there guys here from the wonderful world of Virgin and B.A and SAA and i'm not talking DEC's either.You criticize Oblaaspop, rather rudely, for being arrogant or naive yet it is you who are both. Arrogantly believing that you are entitled to earning the big bucks like your Cathay friend and naively believing that there are Airlines out there that pay them.
Oblaaspop may have only been here a year and having worked for MYT,may not have enjoyed the best T & C's but at least he had the guts to do something about it and leave an Employer that wasn't meeting his expectations.
Perhaps YOU should take a leaf out of his 'less experienced book' and do the same.
Last edited by BYMONEK; 10th February 2005 at 14:09.
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From: Luton
Despite the ramblings above, the facts are that over the years it has got more expensive to live here in Dubai. We are getting less money in relative terms than ten years ago, the only pay rise being dependant upon promotion, and I am working nearly 40% harder to earn the pay these days. I am constantly tired and get sick more frequently. These are the facts everyone, which is why many are saying here that things have changed for the worse for those of us that have been here a while, therefore why would it not be any different for those wanting to join?
My personal advice to any prospective new joiner is take note of all of the above comments by EK pilots and then consider that the positive comments seem to be coming from relatively new joiners, the negative from old timers. Sorry if that phrase offends any of my colleagues! It is only a contract job, despite the trimmings, and there are better jobs now available so bear that in mind when you apply, the goalposts do seem be on a sliding track here and they move with incredible regularity. But should you get to the interview stage, be prepared and when asked if you have any questions, you could ask about the 15 Airbus training captains effectively fired, despite the airline advertising for Boeing trainers. Also ask why so many of the recruitment team have resigned and enquire after the status of the standards group and why their pilots have resigned as well. All is not happy in this particular ship, believe me.
Comparing any airline to another is fraught with problems, what we can compare our terms and conditions with is what they used to be like here!
The proof of the discontentment will always be revealed by the numbers leaving, it seems that this may have begun. This may not worry Emirates at the moment as not that many will actually leave and in any case Emirates seems to attract pilots like bees to a honey pot, but just remember that we were those bees once. But I can't help but wonder who the 17 pilots are that applied to VS this year so far? Are they the same pilots on the hold list for interviews with Dragonair? But then what do expect as when you discuss the possibility of moving on with management, they just shrug and say that they can't blame you!
It may not be long before the competition / the falling revenues / the fuel prices / a catastrophic event put paid to the dream and the belts start to really tighten. So in this year, another year of record profits, do those of us here really see our employer as benevolent and caring? What will happen when the belts really tighten?
We used to be Emirates, The Finest In The Sky, The Award Winning Airline. Somehow we have become just another airline. And that is a massive shame as almost without exception, we were once all very proud to work for Emirates.
My personal advice to any prospective new joiner is take note of all of the above comments by EK pilots and then consider that the positive comments seem to be coming from relatively new joiners, the negative from old timers. Sorry if that phrase offends any of my colleagues! It is only a contract job, despite the trimmings, and there are better jobs now available so bear that in mind when you apply, the goalposts do seem be on a sliding track here and they move with incredible regularity. But should you get to the interview stage, be prepared and when asked if you have any questions, you could ask about the 15 Airbus training captains effectively fired, despite the airline advertising for Boeing trainers. Also ask why so many of the recruitment team have resigned and enquire after the status of the standards group and why their pilots have resigned as well. All is not happy in this particular ship, believe me.
Comparing any airline to another is fraught with problems, what we can compare our terms and conditions with is what they used to be like here!
The proof of the discontentment will always be revealed by the numbers leaving, it seems that this may have begun. This may not worry Emirates at the moment as not that many will actually leave and in any case Emirates seems to attract pilots like bees to a honey pot, but just remember that we were those bees once. But I can't help but wonder who the 17 pilots are that applied to VS this year so far? Are they the same pilots on the hold list for interviews with Dragonair? But then what do expect as when you discuss the possibility of moving on with management, they just shrug and say that they can't blame you!
It may not be long before the competition / the falling revenues / the fuel prices / a catastrophic event put paid to the dream and the belts start to really tighten. So in this year, another year of record profits, do those of us here really see our employer as benevolent and caring? What will happen when the belts really tighten?
We used to be Emirates, The Finest In The Sky, The Award Winning Airline. Somehow we have become just another airline. And that is a massive shame as almost without exception, we were once all very proud to work for Emirates.