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ijp,
I see you are very interested in the jordan based charter airlines. Did you ever fly for them?
Air Rum has recently acquired another L1011 again from Orient Thai, so now they have a total of 3 aircarft. One Tristar is wetleased to Libyan Arab airlines.
Air Universal has wet leased the two 747's to Iran air till Nov 2005. Both JY-AUA & AUB can be spotted in Jeddah.
Star air is still sitting in Sharjah i think.
I see you are very interested in the jordan based charter airlines. Did you ever fly for them?
Air Rum has recently acquired another L1011 again from Orient Thai, so now they have a total of 3 aircarft. One Tristar is wetleased to Libyan Arab airlines.
Air Universal has wet leased the two 747's to Iran air till Nov 2005. Both JY-AUA & AUB can be spotted in Jeddah.
Star air is still sitting in Sharjah i think.
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Dear pia 747 all the info the you posted is incorrect rum air has 4 l-1011 not 3 and they do not have any contract with Libya, they lost that contract 4 months ago, air universal only has 1 747 and is on a dry lease with Iran for two more months and not until 2005 and is also true that all this companies do not pay their pilots, only when they are in bad need so if you are working for any of this outfits,rum,universal,star(the worst),Jordan aviation be aware sooner or later they are going to get you
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potrozo,
You might want to recheck with your source. Both the B747s are on Wet lease. I am in contact with pilots flying for them based in Iran. They are also using Iran air pilots due to shortage.
Just last week The air universal president was in Tehran and extended the contract to Nov 2005.
You might want to recheck with your source. Both the B747s are on Wet lease. I am in contact with pilots flying for them based in Iran. They are also using Iran air pilots due to shortage.
Just last week The air universal president was in Tehran and extended the contract to Nov 2005.
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Dear 747 fanatic you are also in the limbo or probably chating with the wrong person the 2nd 747 still seating in evergreen - one eng and it is confirmed a dry lease for two more months, the president was only offering a better deal but it was denied. but that is not important what really matters is the lack of payment ,so you must be part of the management of any of this companies or have no clue what so ever on what is going on. just be aware they DO NOT PAY THEIR PILOTS.
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potrozo,
Do you mind sharing your source? I got mine from the air universal management. True, they lie. SO i am not sure about the 2nd aircraft or the length of the contract. However i do know that its not a dry lease, as i know a pilot who is flying for them now.
Do you mind sharing your source? I got mine from the air universal management. True, they lie. SO i am not sure about the 2nd aircraft or the length of the contract. However i do know that its not a dry lease, as i know a pilot who is flying for them now.
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So what is Universal doimg with their Tri Stars? With Haj coming up where will these guys get pilots?
747 fanitic, are you a pilot flying in the region, it seems that I should know you, reply via private message if you like.
747 fanitic, are you a pilot flying in the region, it seems that I should know you, reply via private message if you like.
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Air Universal are casting about now for L1011 Captains, age 60 apparently no factor, pay is $9,000/month for the Haj....if you receive it.
Upfront by the month prefered, including ticket home.
Their TriStars are not RVSM approved, so I'm told, so expect to suck up fuel like a very big Hoover...and hope not to run short.
Upfront by the month prefered, including ticket home.
Their TriStars are not RVSM approved, so I'm told, so expect to suck up fuel like a very big Hoover...and hope not to run short.
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It has been reported that Air Universal and Star Air have had their AOC, etc revoked by the Director of Civil Aviation in Sierra Leone. See
http://www.maltamedia.com/news/2004/...cle_3177.shtml
I have heard suggestions that similar action has been taken in respect of all Sierra Leone AOC holders (6 to 8 airlines) not based in Sierra Leone. I do not know if the airlines involved now hold AOCs from other states.
Does anyone know the facts?
http://www.maltamedia.com/news/2004/...cle_3177.shtml
I have heard suggestions that similar action has been taken in respect of all Sierra Leone AOC holders (6 to 8 airlines) not based in Sierra Leone. I do not know if the airlines involved now hold AOCs from other states.
Does anyone know the facts?
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I heard that Star has had their certificate re-instated, and has something cooking, Rum is also operating but do not know where or under what certificate.
I wonder where Star got the airplanes, or even if they have them yet, there is something strange about the whole situation, maybe they are trying to build up a pilot pool so they are not short on the Hajj???
411A - 9000.00 a month? That is a scream! No one will see that much money. If you want I can itemize the excuses they will have as to why your pay is several thousand short. You can not make demands to those people there as they will just find someone else. Take what you can get, and live with it.
I wonder where Star got the airplanes, or even if they have them yet, there is something strange about the whole situation, maybe they are trying to build up a pilot pool so they are not short on the Hajj???
411A - 9000.00 a month? That is a scream! No one will see that much money. If you want I can itemize the excuses they will have as to why your pay is several thousand short. You can not make demands to those people there as they will just find someone else. Take what you can get, and live with it.
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TriStar blues?
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Globe Jet probably pays the most and you stay in a nice hotel. The pay is really dismal on the whole
For a Captain Rum 3000.per month
Universal 3,000 per month
Star 3500 pr month
and about 100. per day per diem
During Hajj you are promised around 9000. per month, but don't fill out deposit slips , as you will rarely see it. Except for Rum, pay stays the same.
For a Captain Rum 3000.per month
Universal 3,000 per month
Star 3500 pr month
and about 100. per day per diem
During Hajj you are promised around 9000. per month, but don't fill out deposit slips , as you will rarely see it. Except for Rum, pay stays the same.
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I am giving the figures as I was given. Now maybe Universal might give a pilot up to 4,000 a month and if you add the perdiem of 100 per day then there is 7000. The base at star is 3500 per month, after you are there a while maybe another 1000, or if you are a tough negotiator, that is, with per diem , 7500. All in all, not so great. Especially if you loose some of the per diem. RUM is a flat 3000. base and 100 per day 6000. flat
As for hotels, depends on who is paying. If the contractor is paying, sometimes hotels can be nice, if the company is paying, Globe is the only one I know of that really uses nice hotels. Even Saudia put us in a dump ( Kandara Palace) when I first joined them. Then they later moved to the Intercon
As for hotels, depends on who is paying. If the contractor is paying, sometimes hotels can be nice, if the company is paying, Globe is the only one I know of that really uses nice hotels. Even Saudia put us in a dump ( Kandara Palace) when I first joined them. Then they later moved to the Intercon
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OH boy guys, this is going to get real sticky soon.
A new operator "Gee BEE' based in Athens is looking for L-1011 drivers. They are using GlobeJet aircraft I have been told. 4500 + 50 per day PD when gone for Capt and 3500 for F/O F/E. And they want you to pay the recurrent training.....If more than 6 months since the last one!
I have kindly refused, thank you.
Unfortunately the Portugese and Jordanians will take that salary, because of their costs of living!
Good luck to all and keep the blue side up Ladies!!!
A new operator "Gee BEE' based in Athens is looking for L-1011 drivers. They are using GlobeJet aircraft I have been told. 4500 + 50 per day PD when gone for Capt and 3500 for F/O F/E. And they want you to pay the recurrent training.....If more than 6 months since the last one!
I have kindly refused, thank you.
Unfortunately the Portugese and Jordanians will take that salary, because of their costs of living!
Good luck to all and keep the blue side up Ladies!!!
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Pay for one's own recurrent training? I haven't heard that before. Doubt that will last long. I presume that experienced L10 crews are or will soon be in short supply, especially in December when the Hadj spools up. And I haven't seen or heard of anybody in JED who is flying the Hadj as captain at those pay rates.