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Old 9th Jul 2004, 07:05
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Etihad Airways

HI,
Anyone out there know who and where the pilot management come from in Etihad?
Is it a good airline to work for?
Will they be taking on NON-type rated pilots soon?
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Old 10th Jul 2004, 15:40
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The Pilot management are Vice President = German, Head of Flight ops = German, Flight training= Canadian, Head of Flight Safety = Swiss, Head of ground Services=English. Most Captains and First Officers are European and there are 60 of them to date.

So not a cast from a bollywood movie, or from down town Abu Dhabi.
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Old 13th Jul 2004, 12:39
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Rumour flies on the notice board at EK that Etihad have just had a 30% pay increase and their package runs to something like:

25k AED start for a Capt plus 700AED/Duty day giving around about 34k/month.

95k housing, 22k/kid schooling but no retirment package as yet.

Any truth in this rumour?!?

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Old 13th Jul 2004, 22:21
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Don't know about the rise.
Does anyone know if they'll go for Airbus or Boeing?
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From what i heard. Ex- UA 777 are on the way.
 
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They don't know where they are going.They don't have a game plan.The money they have will ultimately run low,just wondering when they will abandon the plan.Their load have not pick up still,some still running on single digit load.Better start coming out with concrete plan and long term ones too.Look at it....they have not still made any purchase of aircraft....all on lease...easier for them to wind down in case of down turn in the industry
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Great way to fly, where on earth do you get your info from? Because you clearly know nothing at all about this subject, stick to something you do know, which may indeed not be too much!!
Etihad, do lease there aircraft for now, there first owned aircraft will come along in the spring, just as soon as airbus can build it. Look out for the farnborough air show, then come back and say the money is running out. If there is a more cash rich company anywhere, please let me know. The A380 is coming our way too, we will be the second customer for it, way before EK and the rest, why? Well you work it out. As for the payrise you mention, well yes thats about it, give or take the odd little bit.
trust me Etihad will have around 50 planes by 2009, and will grow into a truly global airline that is up there with the very best, for now, great way to fly, you just sit and watch the show and then come back and be a little humble!
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GWTF,

Just to echo BBB; Etihad have got the big bucks behind them and will not worry about the bottom line. The same can be said of Qatar, both have a lot of oil and gas. Only my opinion but it will be interesting to see how the growth of Etihad effects Gulf Air. It cannot make sense for their major shareholder to be competing with itself.

The competition in the market will probably hurt EK most. Whilst their loads probably won't drop that much, the top 5% is the profit and Dubai don't have the same depth pockets as the other players. However, Etihad do have to work out their own strategy because just copying EK, as Qatar did, probably won't work in a more competitive market.

A good game is a fast one,

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Hey BBB,

Sure about the 380 before EK, I don't think so pal. Airbus is behind filling orders and EY is not that special to jump in front of everyone else.
But let see what comes next week at the show
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Its true, Ek did have the orders in for the 380 before EY, and i'm sure your right, but lets just wait and see.
It would be interesting to see the 380 in AUH, roll on next weeks show!!!
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Here´s their shopping list
http://www.airbus.com/dynamic/media/...eases.asp#1532
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Talking about shopping.
Do you know what are they going to put in the kart before 2006? I guess they will not settle with the six aircraft they have right now until the deliveries of the brand new ones.
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Indeed Bunny!

So refreshing news!...finally
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As far as i know, there is another 340 coming this fall, then 2 330 from the order being delivered next spring and 4 others being leased until the rest of the new stuff starts arriving. As for the 380's and despite some peoples lack of faith, Etihad has been confirmed as getting MSN 002, that the one after Singapore, but before EK, as i mentioned before. I guess we are just taking the ones Virgin dont want, but yes much digging required at AUH!!
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Yes its odd, and i really dont know. I would guess its political, something that seems to go on a lot in this part of the world, and you would think Emirates would be a more imortant customer at this stage, all i can say is that this is the way round at the moment, lot can happen in 2 years though!!
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Hello Guy!

Wanna ask something about Etihad & Living in AUH.

1. Benifits (FO)
- Education coverage
- Travel
- Promotion
- Basic & other allowances
- other packages

2. Can we get nice apartment with $75000 dirhams,
- Facillites e:g: Swimming pool, Gym, designated parking
- Fully furnish or ......
- Location?

Thanks
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Old 28th Jul 2004, 21:25
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Bob is your uncle,

Emirates has chosen the Engine Alliance engine (GE&PW) for their A380 and will thus have to wait a year after Singapore to take delivery of their first plane as the RollsRoyce engine is the lead engine on the A380 program(ie it will be certified first). As Virgin had early slots and had chosen the RR engine, this rumour about early delivery to Etihad seams possible.
Even though Etihad has not ofically selected its engine supplier for the A380 this rumour will be confirmed when they annouce that it is RollsRoyce.
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Old 29th Jul 2004, 08:51
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Still nobody answer my questions!!!! Wonder why
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FF,

the package is good i guess, If my friends at Ek are anything to go by the money in the pocket is better at Etihad, although no you will not get too much downtown for 75K unless its 2 beds. Housing is more expensive than Dubai, you need to look nearer towards 90-100k for new 3 bed. but the company gives more than 75k anyway so its not so bad. Schooling has just gone up but i really dont know what is is, as for Abu dhabi, its not Dubai, but its an easy going place thats good to live in.
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Just noticed:

in their web site looks like they are recruting cabin attendants only.

Pilot positions have been removed.

Don't they need pilots any more?

Cheers,

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